If someone from Fdev streams themselves unlocking all the Guardian tech. I will eat my eye patch.

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Hello folks,

Wanted to wade in here and say thank you for all of the feedback.

We sent it to the team and have been informed that they are working on rebalancing things to alleviate the amount of time required to unlock Guardian tech. We will let you know soon as we have more information to share about that!

Thanks again everyone!

Thanks for that - rebalanced I, at least think it will be fine.
 
I did not ask for anything. I simply said your "findings" are not confirmed. You wont confirm them so they are not confirmed.

And it doesn't even matter now because it is changing!



"We sent it to the team and have been informed that they are working on rebalancing things to alleviate the amount of time required to unlock Guardian tech."



Glorious day!

And can I just point out that this will be the second change, hopefully somewhere back to what it was like at the start... as I said a 100 pages or so ago it's a drop rate problem - solvable with a rebalance.
Now, having content delivered in other more interesting or varied ways, while nice is I belive a different discussion - and it was me who got the Guardian kit in record time not Stigbob - anyone doing the Ram Tah missions when this came out basically got everything for Guardians damn near instantly as everything dropped lots of everything.
 
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Hello folks,

Wanted to wade in here and say thank you for all of the feedback.

We sent it to the team and have been informed that they are working on rebalancing things to alleviate the amount of time required to unlock Guardian tech. We will let you know soon as we have more information to share about that!

Thanks again everyone!

As a suggestion, how about you guys stop doing the "unlock through new grind" method all the time? I miss the good old times when it was just about your account at the Bank of Zaonce, and not handing in some arbitrary MacGuffins to some guy who mysteriously has access to gigantic stockpiles of the some specific tech, yet won't sell to anyone who doesn't deliver MacGuffins first - and the g interstellar superpowers are sitting on their hands, watching this all unfold instead of going in like "dude, we requisition that tech, if you disagree you can discuss this with the Farragut outside"...
 
As a suggestion, how about you guys stop doing the "unlock through new grind" method all the time? I miss the good old times when it was just about your account at the Bank of Zaonce, and not handing in some arbitrary MacGuffins to some guy who mysteriously has access to gigantic stockpiles of the some specific tech, yet won't sell to anyone who doesn't deliver MacGuffins first - and the g interstellar superpowers are sitting on their hands, watching this all unfold instead of going in like "dude, we requisition that tech, if you disagree you can discuss this with the Farragut outside"...

Good point well made.
 
We sent it to the team and have been informed that they are working on rebalancing things to alleviate the amount of time required to unlock Guardian tech. We will let you know soon as we have more information to share about that!

Curious how sanitized the "it" was before it was sent to the team. Not really feeling this is a suitable response so much as "managing" of the community because a 100+ pages of concerns and feedback in the forums is starting to look bad. Was "amount of time" the sole feedback that was passed on?
 
105 pages, 3 replies.

The system works.

Delighted to hear the content's going to be revisited and made a great deal more engaging and fun.
 
Excellent, thanks (could ya ask ‘em to make it more fun as well please).
;)

They could let us shoot the data core out after 3 sessions of regular ammo, 1 of premium. After collecting the data core you can take it to a thargoid site, where it will get all angry at it but also give you all the data you can hold.
 
105 pages, 3 replies.

The system works.

Delighted to hear the content's going to be revisited and made a great deal more engaging and fun.

Don’t get your hopes up for the latter half of this. Please actually learn from this, Frontier. We’re not accepting this mediocrity anymore. There’s no point spending time making beautiful assets, if nobody wants to engage with them, because of the unimaginative and lazy gameplay design.

Now you can go back to Jurassic World, We all know thats where you’d rather be. Can’t disappoint Universal Studios now can we?
(Was that passive aggressive enough? I’m actually really looking forward to Jurassic World).
 
Reducing the grind? Well ok, BUT I hope they don't lose sight of the actual issue: The activity is not *fun* once you have done it once or twice.

Make activities *fun* and engaging and people *will not care* how long they take. That means beyond "cheap" repetition of carry A 2 B / kill X goblins / scan X widgets 4 reward. Why can't we have some cool stories and missions around things like generation ships, to raise a random example?

You don't need to offer players a "reward" if an activity is fun, they'll do it just for the cool experience.
 
Hello folks,

Wanted to wade in here and say thank you for all of the feedback.

We sent it to the team and have been informed that they are working on rebalancing things to alleviate the amount of time required to unlock Guardian tech. We will let you know soon as we have more information to share about that!

Thanks again everyone!

Super Will.

Make it so that it takes 5 mins to do, then stream it, and we get to see PM eat his eyepatch. Then for the ultimate troll, increase the time required again :D

So, if we want something to be changed, we have to make a thread of 100+ pages. Good to know.

Nope, doesn't always work. The 100 pages is incidental. Just takes FD time to consider such changes (c.f. - past history - yeah, i know, someone will now mention nerfs).
 
Reducing the grind? Well ok, BUT I hope they don't lose sight of the actual issue: The activity is not *fun* once you have done it once or twice.

Make activities *fun* and engaging and people *will not care* how long they take. That means beyond "cheap" repetition of carry A 2 B / kill X goblins / scan X widgets 4 reward. Why can't we have some cool stories and missions around things like generation ships, to raise a random example?

You don't need to offer players a "reward" if an activity is fun, they'll do it just for the cool experience.

This is why I'm wondering what information is getting passed between Community Management and "team". If the distillation of the salient points in this thread is just "it's too much X" then the underlying problems are never going to be addressed.
 
Reducing the grind? Well ok, BUT I hope they don't lose sight of the actual issue: The activity is not *fun* once you have done it once or twice.

Make activities *fun* and engaging and people *will not care* how long they take. That means beyond "cheap" repetition of carry A 2 B / kill X goblins / scan X widgets 4 reward. Why can't we have some cool stories and missions around things like generation ships, to raise a random example?

You don't need to offer players a "reward" if an activity is fun, they'll do it just for the cool experience.
This 1000 times. I hope FDev sees this and takes it to heart both in relation to this issue, and in relation to the game in general.
 
Thread cannon? Is that like a t-shirt cannon?

You can take your cannons and shove them up your large hardpoint.

Suggesting your contribution is canon, even to this thread, is pretty arrogant.

I couldn't care any less about your numbers or your logs, or the Guardian grind for that matter.

But your refusal to post the requested logs does paint your claim in an awkward light.

Why should anyone believe your numbers?

Particularly without any evidence to support your claims.

You've got something of a reputation going for making claims that you can't back up.

I look forward to seeing your logs when you finally acquiesce.

I'm one of the few who isn't just making it all up and has actually been out there and unlocked some stuff, if you want to dispute any part of my timings feel free I'll just prove you wrong.

Stop asking for my logs, the answer is still no.
 
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