Modes Mega ships open only content?

[lokvette]

Sorry I misread the OP I quoted and tend to agree with that poster point, dont mind me :=

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

There is change and there is bait and switch. I never would have KSed the game to even close to the level I did had it not been for the modes and knowing direct PvP was entirely optional.
That said FD have seemingly benched some features inhold dearly and added ones I don't care about so I suppose one can never be certain.
And maybe iracing will get burnout style take downs , and super Mario will get an X rated version with princess peach..... Maybe I should go and ask on their forums for those things

Literally everything about the game you bought changed this year. Think about that for a minute. The whole game was rewritten.

Now look at the changes they made.


They could easily flip the switch to open only in all aspects of the game. And it would work.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Literally everything about the game you bought changed this year. Think about that for a minute. The whole game was rewritten.

Now look at the changes they made.


They could easily flip the switch to open only in all aspects of the game. And it would work.

Why would they? Do you truly believe the majority would want this change?

 

[Stealthie]

When did "Open Only Powerplay" mutate into "Open Only BGS"?

I didn't get the memo'. [sad]

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

It is if your in a player based faction playing the BGS against another playing the BGS. However many like me play the BGS with the npc factions no where near any player made factions thus we do worry about that stuff.

Now take a step back. Open your galaxy map. And look at colonia. Remember those colonia drives? Everyone is really close to each other. All player factions in damn near every system.

In the Bubble Privateers Alliance not only Fought off BOTS and told them to suck it they cant win, we also fought against 3 other player faction and a splinter group mobius created because we their penetrated their feelshields by taking Alberta in Colonia. ( I wasnt even taking part in most of it due the burn out in colonia). But PA sure kicked some BUTT!

Listen, Ive been through this stuff. Ive seen many other player group go through the same thing.

The Frustration. We all started out wanting to PVE grow and Expand. But the minute someone screws with you. And you cant do anything about it. Takes all the fun out of it.

All I am asking is to be able to defend ourselves. And yes that means taking 2 rail guns and penetrating some grade 5 powerplants.

Again, Id much rather be fighting over objectives over killing some random monkey.

But it seems like you all dont want objective based game play. Or griefing.

You cant have both. And they damn sure arent going to remove PVP.

So what do you guys think they are going to do here?

Lets just get this done. SO this game can move forward.

Burn. It. Down.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Well by that reasoning, since they said it's ok to kill anyone at any time for no reason at all, then it stands to reason they ought to provide for a way to do that.

They have used the word "force" after all.

On the contrary, Frontier have provided two modes for players to play in when they don't want to be content for other players - or simply don't find playing with others to be "fun".

Where did they use "force" in this context?

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

On the contrary, Frontier have provided two modes for players to play in when they don't want to be content for other players - or simply don't find playing with others to be "fun".

Where did they use "force" in this context?

To be clear, this is the context I am referring to

making them "choose" to play as they themselves have chosen to play

and not anything to do with BGS, modes etc. per se.

 

[Robert Maynard]

The reality is the incorrect people are being blown up.

Damn the kickstarter, Damn the way it came out of the box.

The games evolved. Its way past that now. And the new things they added should be balanced. Especially if its built around the multiplayer aspect.

I literally dont care about what we had then. I am looking at what we have now and have had for quite sometime.

Its inevitable. I cant stress this enough.

Its like the medical marijuana legaliziation across the world.

YOU CANT STOP THIS.

It's a bit inconvenient that Frontier's latest statement regarding the BGS is the same, in meaning, as their first (in November 2012) - as that does not seem to support the "the games evolved" statement in this context.

Only Frontier can change it - and, up to now, they have not - despite about six years of "it's not fair to my play-style" complaints from players who choose to engage in an entirely optional play-style and are themselves optional in terms of other players' gameplay.

 

[CMDR Cosmic Spacehead]

I don't particularly mind incentives* for Open play, (or PowerPlay being Open only). But locking content out of Solo/PG is a no no.


*Incentives could be increased influence/lower rebuy/rep/money/materials/exclusive cheese commodity/whatever...

 

[Robert Maynard]

Id much rather be in the game than here. Id like to face my enemies at the very least.

Why is this such a taboo topic? This really is not much to ask. And these people are acting like I killed their babies.

This place is nuts.

Your enemies showing up is entirely up to them - not up to you.

The topic is not taboo - it is often discussed - however it is contentious and not everyone shares the opinion that content should be PvP-gated.

 

[sewerratuk]

That's most likely what's going to happen. Megaship scenarios are for PvE and roleplay-PvP only. If you are trying to impact the BGS you will NOT engage with other players.

Yup, my thoughts exactly. Like it or not these scenario are purely for a bit of roleplay fun and it will be up to player groups to arrange a fight at one if they want too. Hopefully this means it will have minimal impact on the BGS

That was a USS, not a "real" megaship. Those spawn at random, so i would imagine that helping either faction does as much to the BGS as a single mission.

It will be interesting to see how much influence they have, it could get really salty round here

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

It's a bit inconvenient that Frontier's latest statement regarding the BGS is the same, in meaning, as their first (in November 2012) - as that does not seem to support the "the games evolved" statement in this context.

Only Frontier can change it - and, up to now, they have not - despite about six years of "it's not fair to my play-style" complaints from players who choose to engage in an entirely optional play-style and are themselves optional in terms of other players' gameplay.

Like I said. The minute they release these changes and people settle and learn what the BGS is about.

Threads like this are going to spread like wildfire.

Its almost as if they redesigned the game this way. And almost every time major changes comes up the community wants it.

Not bad social engineering on their part if I do say so myself.

However they should just save the heartache. Its been going on for years already. No reason to drag it out any longer. They should just do it right the first time with the new changes. Thats it.

 

[Wolf Starslayer]

Frontier keep saying 'NO' to open only BGS; some people just refuse to take them at their word and create eleborate fantasies that a open only game if coming.

 

[Robert Maynard]

To be clear, this is the context I am referring to



and not anything to do with BGS, modes etc. per se.

Not sure where you are going with this - players cannot force other players to engage in PvP.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Like I said. The minute they release these changes and people settle and learn what the BGS is about.

Threads like this are going to spread like wildfire.

Its almost as if they redesigned the game this way. And almost every time major changes comes up the community wants it.

Not bad social engineering on their part if I do say so myself.

However they should just save the heartache. Its been going on for years already. No reason to drag it out any longer. They should just do it right the first time with the new changes. Thats it.

If only people *would* learn what the BGS is about - Frontier have made it abundantly clear what it is about - but some players choose to ignore that and try to reinvent it based on their play-style preferences.

Threads like this have, as you have stated, existed for years now. Interestingly, Frontier's position on the topic does not seem to have changed in all that time.

They did do it "right the first time", in my opinion - YMMV.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Not sure where you are going with this - players cannot force other players to engage in PvP.

What do you make of point #2 and #5?

 

[Robert Maynard]

What do you make of point #2 and #5?

Simple - choose the mode that best suits your preferred game experience. There's nothing "special" about Open, after all (other than its unlimited population).

Second paragraph of #4 is on point too.

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

Simple - choose the mode that best suits your preferred game experience. There's nothing "special" about Open, after all (other than its unlimited population).

Second paragraph of #4 is on point too.

Wait a second, are you seriously just going to ignore the part where they used "force" in reference to another CMDR and PVP, in contrast to what you just posted?

They said exactly the opposite of what you just wrote.

 

[Robert Maynard]

Wait a second, are you seriously just going to ignore the part where they used "force" in reference to another CMDR and PVP, in contrast to what you just posted?

They said exactly the opposite of what you just wrote.

How do you force a player to initiate PvP combat? (as that was the context of the CS response)

What are the pre-requisites for such a situation?

How many choices did each player require to make to get into the situation?

 

[Bob Lighthouse]

How do you force a player to initiate PvP combat? (as that was the context of the CS response)

What are the pre-requisites for such a situation?

How many choices did each player require to make to get into the situation?

Like I said, they used the words that conflict with yours.

I think you guys need to get on the same page because they are mutually exclusive positions.
Don't ask me to explain your (collective) inconsistency.