That and the CZs shut down after the kill bars have been filled for either side, forcing the player to reset the instance.
I thought login in and out was the eassiest part of the bot..
That and the CZs shut down after the kill bars have been filled for either side, forcing the player to reset the instance.
There has to be something that can be done about the botting.
Unfortunately it’s becoming harder to detect and ban. Bots are getting much smarter.
There is a group that we are dealing with that I have always suspected of botting or hacking. The worst case is hacking and I would not be surprised if someone found out how to get their client to do some dev magic.
FD can detect dev magic, specialy if it involves skiping any step a normal user couldn't do.
The other day I thought I faced a trading bot, turned out it was just a lazy commander watching HBO at the same time, he blew up with 300 Paladium in its cargo because he was waiting for a show to finish before jumping, his answer: meh, that I can recover in just one run LOL
That and the CZs shut down after the kill bars have been filled for either side, forcing the player to reset the instance.
Did you really have to make us scroll through the long OP again?
Re: OP, kudos for you guys doing the investigative work. To me, botting is a lot more serious than combat logging and soft bans seems like a joke, especially when these accounts were made solely or this purpose. While they may not want to refund them, it certainly doesn't send a strong message to potential botters that the worst that could happen is a temp ban. Fdev, show us you have cajones! Take action!
If you want this game to grow you have to accept how people play and make it impossible to do the things that you don't want them to do. Combat logging is a great example. Put a 15 minute combat log timer in. Problem solved. But they don't do that. It makes you wonder if they want there to be real consequences in the game. Lets take botting. Botting is legal in alot of games. I don't like bots, but if they were in the game and couldn't combat log then we could blow them up. Consequences. Then get rid of the last problem which is solo and private group. Make solo only available until you get the third rank of any rating, and private groups only available till you get your 5th rank. Then make it force you into open. Or just make it open. Welcome to a simulation. You got blown up? welcome to the game.
Unforgiving gameplay mechanics with great player communities are what make simulations work. As soon as you start trying to cater to one playstyle or make certain game mechanics illegal then its not a simulation and its not what was promised. Fix the game mechanics and help new players by talking to them after you blow them up. For alot of players, this game sucked until they got blown up and that invigorated them to want to get a better ship. Freedom is dangerous. Don't try to tame it.
Then get rid of the last problem which is solo and private group. Make solo only available until you get the third rank of any rating, and private groups only available till you get your 5th rank. Then make it force you into open. Or just make it open. Welcome to a simulation. You got blown up? welcome to the game.
If they are paying customers and this is how they want to play then why are we mad at them?
If they are paying customers and this is how they want to play then why are we mad at them?
I’m still rather at a loss as what, exactly, these supposed bots are doing.
Anybody want to share some specifics?
Because if we accept this as legit, the game changes completely. It will essentially turn to EvE where instead of you yourself flying the missions and doing the combat, you direct agents to do this for you. Since it is massively more powerful than human CMDRs can ever achieve (short of paying people), it would mean that everybody will have to adopt the use of bots or perish. BGS and PowerPlay would become entirely automated. If not, you'll just lose.
In PowerPlay they run fast-track merits in a volume that is impossible to counter by human players. In the BGS, they run missions continuously 24/7, completely overwhelming what a group of human CMDRs can do. This leads to maximum daily influence deltas that are impossible to counter. This will get things moving during pending conflict states, building huge leads before the conflict starts. Then, they use hacks during armed conflcit to dish out massive damage (one-shot kills) while not taking any damage to win wars.
The main thing to take away from this is simply that it creates a volume of activity that human players can't counteract. When you're hit by bots, you lose. Whatever you do.
Because if we accept this as legit, the game changes completely. It will essentially turn to EvE where instead of you yourself flying the missions and doing the combat, you direct agents to do this for you. Since it is massively more powerful than human CMDRs can ever achieve (short of paying people), it would mean that everybody will have to adopt the use of bots or perish. BGS and PowerPlay would become entirely automated. If not, you'll just lose.
In PowerPlay they run fast-track merits in a volume that is impossible to counter by human players. In the BGS, they run missions continuously 24/7, completely overwhelming what a group of human CMDRs can do. This leads to maximum daily influence deltas that are impossible to counter. This will get things moving during pending conflict states, building huge leads before the conflict starts. Then, they use hacks during armed conflcit to dish out massive damage (one-shot kills) while not taking any damage to win wars.
The main thing to take away from this is simply that it creates a volume of activity that human players can't counteract. When you're hit by bots, you lose. Whatever you do.
How is this not a hack? Does FDEV ban hackers or not?
Because if we accept this as legit, the game changes completely. It will essentially turn to EvE where instead of you yourself flying the missions and doing the combat, you direct agents to do this for you. Since it is massively more powerful than human CMDRs can ever achieve (short of paying people), it would mean that everybody will have to adopt the use of bots or perish. BGS and PowerPlay would become entirely automated. If not, you'll just lose.
In PowerPlay they run fast-track merits in a volume that is impossible to counter by human players. In the BGS, they run missions continuously 24/7, completely overwhelming what a group of human CMDRs can do. This leads to maximum daily influence deltas that are impossible to counter. This will get things moving during pending conflict states, building huge leads before the conflict starts. Then, they use hacks during armed conflcit to dish out massive damage (one-shot kills) while not taking any damage to win wars.
The main thing to take away from this is simply that it creates a volume of activity that human players can't counteract. When you're hit by bots, you lose. Whatever you do.
Going on an internet forum and saying, "These people meticulously documented evidence of botting in a video game; they must stalk people in real life when they're not playing the game" is also a pretty weird thing to spend your time doing, to be fair.