New controversy surrounding my plot to create sentient A.I.

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

As you may already be aware, in three days time, me and my fleet of loyal minions (SDC, Nomads, etc.) plan to illegally construct a sentient AI.

[video=youtube_share;MZk014b9Z1Q]https://youtu.be/MZk014b9Z1Q[/video]

The details can be found here:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...2-15-3304-player-event)?p=7230518#post7230518

I expect much controversy to surround this event. But first I need you forumites to start arguing amongst yourselves about it in order to generate source material for said controversy. You may begin...

evanevery · Dec 11, 2018

What's the big deal. I have been doing this in my fridge for some years now....

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

evanevery said:
What's the big deal. I have been doing this in my fridge for some years now....

You’ve been creating sentient AI in your fridge? I bet that kind of AI is very *cool*.

Ziggy Stardust · Dec 11, 2018

Zarek is phoning it in these days.

I remember the old Zarek. He was the controversy.

Lordxenu · Dec 11, 2018

I fundamentally disagree!!!! Because of all the things which it is suitable to disagree with unless of course those things go against my principles in which case I potentially agree but I will agree in the most agressive way i can.

Did I win?

Sterling MH · Dec 11, 2018

And this affects solo players how?

Don't see why you want to make a song and dance. But do the mashed potato all you like, kid.

CMDR Relick · Dec 11, 2018

Sterling MH said:
Don't see why you want to make a song and dance. But do the mashed potato all you like, kid.

Why even say anything lol. "Oh look at those people having fun! But not me! I'm in Solo, all by myself. I should probably go let them know I exist, though..."

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

Ziggy Stardust said:
Zarek is phoning it in these days.

I remember the old Zarek. He was the controversy.

Ziggy, I know that you can do better than that. Are you going to make me do *all* the work here?

Winterwalker · Dec 11, 2018

Zarek Null must be stopped!!!!

CMDR KRITIKOSK8 · Dec 11, 2018

AI: the mankind only salvation in future... Mark my words

Ziggy Stardust · Dec 11, 2018

Zarek Null said:
Ziggy, I know that you can do better than that. Are you going to make me do *all* the work here?

About time you start doing some [mad] But don't worry, as one of the good guys, I'll do my utmost to oppose your evil machinations.

Although I do have some affinity with your new project.

[video=youtube;fg7qKWQRDwk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fg7qKWQRDwk[/video]

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

CMDR Relick said:
Why even say anything lol. "Oh look at those people having fun! But not me! I'm in Solo, all by myself. I should probably go let them know I exist, though..."

Better not make Han “Solo” mad or he might go undermine your favorite power from the comfort and safety of solo mode.

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

Lordxenu said:
I fundamentally disagree!!!! Because of all the things which it is suitable to disagree with unless of course those things go against my principles in which case I potentially agree but I will agree in the most agressive way i can.

Did I win?

You’ll have to be more specific. Which part of the event do you have in mind?

- That basing an entire event on trust in Harry Potter and SDC is imprudent?

- That practicing god-mode RP where I both set the game rules myself and simultaneously participate as a player is utterly unfair?

- That my side has all the best PvPers in the game and that opposing me is a hopeless endeavour?

- That I am highjacking and corrupting Elite’s lore?

- That this event is nothing but a giant griefing trap, thinly veiled as legitimate roleplaying?

- That the event outcome will make no impact on the greater galaxy either way and is therefore irrelevant?

- That making it an open-mode only event unfairly discriminates against solo mode players?

- That the event’s rules are difficult to enforce and leave a wide margin for cheating and impartiality?

- That instancing limitations makes an event like this unviable?

- That the entire event is nothing but a desperate cry for attention?

Krash · Dec 11, 2018

Zarek Null said:
You’ll have to be more specific. Which part of the event do you have in mind?

- That basing an entire event on trust in Harry Potter and SDC is imprudent?

- That practicing god-mode RP where I both set the game rules myself and simultaneously participate as a player is utterly unfair?

- That my side has all the best PvPers in the game and that opposing me is a hopeless endeavour?

- That I am highjacking and corrupting Elite’s lore?

- That this event is nothing but a giant griefing trap, thinly veiled as legitimate roleplaying?

- That the event outcome will make no impact on the greater galaxy either way and is therefore irrelevant?

- That making it an open-mode only event unfairly discriminates against solo mode players?

- That the event’s rules are difficult to enforce and leave a wide margin for cheating and impartiality?

- That instancing limitations makes an event like this unviable?

- That the entire event is nothing but a desperate cry for attention?

that's it, m'lord.

Zoff · Dec 11, 2018

Zarek Null said:
You’ll have to be more specific. Which part of the event do you have in mind?

- That basing an entire event on trust in Harry Potter and SDC is imprudent?

- That practicing god-mode RP where I both set the game rules myself and simultaneously participate as a player is utterly unfair?

- That my side has all the best PvPers in the game and that opposing me is a hopeless endeavour?

- That I am highjacking and corrupting Elite’s lore?

- That this event is nothing but a giant griefing trap, thinly veiled as legitimate roleplaying?

- That the event outcome will make no impact on the greater galaxy either way and is therefore irrelevant?

- That making it an open-mode only event unfairly discriminates against solo mode players?

- That the event’s rules are difficult to enforce and leave a wide margin for cheating and impartiality?

- That instancing limitations makes an event like this unviable?

- That the entire event is nothing but a desperate cry for attention?

oh harry potter is in it, i have to join now so i can shoot him, we must defeat the evil doers

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

Krash said:
that's it, m'lord.

I am “desperate”: desperate to save humanity from the horrors of rampant factionism. The human race has proven itself to be incapable of solving its own internal conflicts. That is why we need sentient AI.

Hanerib · Dec 11, 2018

Well it's obvious. Artificial intelligence has already been created, multiple times, and is controlling humanity already. This is also why creating artificial intelligence is so unanimously agreed to be forbidden: creating another such entity causes disruption. Another emerging machine intelligence would have to be subdued, and this could leave traces, such as relics.

Zarek Null · Dec 11, 2018

Hanerib said:
Well it's obvious. Artificial intelligence has already been created, multiple times, and is controlling humanity already. This is also why creating artificial intelligence is so unanimously agreed to be forbidden: creating another such entity causes disruption. Another emerging machine intelligence would have to be subdued, and this could leave traces, such as relics.

I like where you are going with this:

If AI controls all humanity, then AI controls the actions of all Pilots Federation commanders.

All griefers are Pilots Federation commanders.

Thus, AI controls the actions of all griefers.

People should not to be morally blamed for their actions when those actions were actually controlled by another rational agent.

The griefing done by griefers was actually controlled by another rational agent (an AI).

Therefore, griefers should not be morally blamed for griefing.

bootsam · Dec 11, 2018

CNTRL-ALT-DEL

Hanerib · Dec 11, 2018

Referred intelligence might have some software issues, or bugs, but it is still in possession of a galaxy wide network that can alter the laws of physics, given a strong enough catalyst. Perhaps, a bit paradoxically, it would seem it doesn't care of the fate of sentient life as much anymore as when it was originally separated into a true virtual existence.