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Can't see why not, it's a vast improvement over the old system.
This is my experience so far as well.
With the caveat that you have to park your ship and muck around in the FSS first to determine whether or not a system is more interesting than "red beans and rice." Well, to be fair, there are some exceptions to that, but not generally speaking. Personally, I'm more of a lentils and barley sort of guy, but to each their own.
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Slowly nods. These same represent themselves so upstandingly yet can't be bothered to align the hud on a headline feature.
I'm even willing to write off subjective divergences in design.. but the shoddy craftsmanship that's telling on all of frontiers games..
Well i think this may have been the pudding that pushed it over the line. Its not about being as agreeable as the community management face or swatting away one particular white knight..
The financial and time investment ratio has been duly updated.
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Scroll through the spectral analysis look at the description in the lower right corner of the screen stop when you spot the earth like zoom in and bob's your uncle.
Not a lot of mucking about when you know how it works.
Dont get me wrong, I am very pleased with the new system and consider it miles above what we had. But it is important make sure we're all on the same page: those people complaining they can't do what they want to do ain't wrong. We may disagree, but they are factually correct about their style not working any more.
With the greatest of respect, but I suspect you've missed out on a lot of discussions.
The issue is not finding ELWs and such. The issue is that some explorers are looking for different things; specific constellations, patterns etc. You need to use the FSS to uncover that, while previously they could use the system map immediately after honking. I myself am into finding ruins, abandones bases, shipwrecks and all that Star Trek stuff, so the new system is wonderful for me. For some others not so much for multiple, different, reasons.
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It's subjective. I don't even care for having to park in the first place and would rather not muck around in an alternative disjointed view, if given the opportunity.
I agree that it's significantly faster than supercruising to everything to "discover" it.
Yes, you're right it is different, but I think that if they gave it a fair chance they'll find they can still do want they want to do they just won't be doing it in the same place. Instead of honking and checking the map they can now spot everything interesting in the FSS...
With the greatest of respect, but I suspect you've missed out on a lot of discussions.
Personally I think they are just looking for excuses to get back the single honk and run approach to exploration
With experience of the FSS you soon pick up the type of system from the signals available in the spectral analysis. Problem is it's something new to learn and certain people just can't be bothered. So instead they just knock it and cry on the forum that the new system is bad.
Personally I think they are just looking for excuses to get back the single honk and run approach to exploration
With experience of the FSS you soon pick up the type of system from the signals available in the spectral analysis. Problem is it's something new to learn and certain people just can't be bothered. So instead they just knock it and cry on the forum that the new system is bad.
For me, and as things are now in the game, I would prefer black bodies over the comparatively full reveal functionality of the ADS. I rather like flying my spaceships around, and being able to explore and discover things traveling around in the galaxy and systems seems rather compelling to me.
Black bodies would provide enough of an overview to help distinguish one system from the next, but still hold enough mystery to make the discovery process engaging.
If an addition module was needed to provide this sort of functionality with the honk, I think it'd mesh rather well with the new mechanics without detracting from their significance. For cumulative exploration, these honks could even potentially provide black body systems for those explorers who might follow, assuming the initial explorer turned in the system data, but didn't fully resolve/discover everything in the system.
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In other words you're upset they made it easier instead of harder. You'd rather that the stuff FD has put in the game never got discovered than that a peasant like me could stumble across something interesting...
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See the post again, and sorry for the late edits. I don't have a problem with the FSS and think it's a rather useful tool in the tool box. I'd just prefer some other options.
Nailed it
More options are good, I like options.
Hey S.B.
My experience exploring as of today:
1) Enter a system and wait for close things to appear. SysMap shows stars, asteroid belts, maybe a few close planets, 1-2 is average whether system is discovered or not.
2) Try to honk (Does not work in this mode - select FSS)
3) Enter Scan mode
4) Scan with FSS. 38 bodies detected.
5) Exit FSS
6) Enter SysMap - Still exactly as it was.
7) Dial in the planet. Then orient yourself to face that way.
8) Zoom in and discover the body. Ice world...
Total time 90 seconds.
What I used to do:
1) Enter system, honk.
2) Open SysMap and see at a glance what is there while scooping.
3) Decide to stay and scan things of interest, or carry onto next system.
Total time 15-20 seconds.
They have introduced a mini-game to solve a problem that never existed. They have turned what was a relaxing experience into a grindy mess. My exploration account has been unused (except for today to compile the above) since the beta and will remain unused. It's too much work. Same with mining. Exploration / mining were my go to activities when I just wanted to relax. Not any more.
I've not played Elite, on any account, since day three of the beta. Nor do I feel the need to. I've been racking up time on X4 and Just Cause. Press fire, things blow up. Dirt simple.
The Frontier programmers should be looking at elegant solutions that make our lives easier. Not adding more keys and grind. I see where the OP is coming from. It just isn't fun anymore.
This is the issue. It isn't optional, you do it their way unless you want a blank SysMap.
On the other hand, to generalize everyone who take some issue with the new mechanics in this way isn't wholly accurate nor productive.
The FSS is already in the game and its core functionality isn't likely going to change, so I'm not sure what these sort of posts are aiming to accomplish here beyond disparaging and sidelining the opinions of others.
That's more or less the point they were responding to though. I.E., that having other options would be nice, at least for some of us.
If others are enjoying the extent of the FSS exploration gameplay, more power to them. I'm not aiming to detract from that with my suggestions here.
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