No you can use Bog standard keyboards and mouse <$20 with out issues...
you have to avoid gamer gimmick brands untill users test them for compliance... As there gimmicks break support...
Keyboard support support arrives 14th November. Will FDev support it?
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No you can use Bog standard keyboards and mouse <$20 with out issues...
you have to avoid gamer gimmick brands untill users test them for compliance... As there gimmicks break support...
All bog standard USB RF wireless will work as they come with a Dongle... Its the lack of laggy go to sleep very fast Bluetooh Wireless save battery units thats not supported...
The console can't tell whats a USB dongle vs whats USB wired as the Creator of the device can change the USB ident code... to just say "USB keyboard" or "USB mouse"...
one of these is <$10 if you allready have the USB ports full...
USB RF like the headsets Stops the lag as long as you move the Dongle out the way of RF noise...
5 button mouse is the limit by default...
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Why the hell not. Most people play elite for the realism of the game some people want to play in the comfort of there own living room on there massive 4k tv I certainly don't want to hunker over a desk playing on a monitors but still want the realism of what pc players have. I use a hotas instead of a controller I also use foot rudders. I could still use simple controller but feel more realism with the hotas and rudders. I would also welcome fdevs to allow if desired the use of a keyboard. This way I would have the ability for a full control system rather than the limited control used by a normal controller. Have you looked at all the button mapping in options. Unless you have a keyboard there is loads you won't be able to have control over. Bring options for keyboard use for the people that want to play in consoles and still want more realism with there game style and game play.
If you piloted a real vehicle that could fly. It wouldn't be just with a controller or joystick would it.
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I don't have one single control binding on my keyboard...everything on the HOTAS...even on that I rarely press a button or switch unless I'm firing guns since I use Voice attack. Keyboards are fine an' all... but kinda old school
[video=youtube_share;hShY6xZWVGE]https://youtu.be/hShY6xZWVGE[/video]
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Ludicrous lapboard pricing* aside, I thoroughly hope mouse & keyboard support is added to Elite.
When you get the right sensor on the proper surface, nothing, and I mean nothing can compete with the precision offered.
*I'm a Razer fan-boi and I've got this horrible feeling I'll buy the Turret if ED gets support.
When you get the right sensor on the proper surface, nothing, and I mean nothing can compete with the precision offered.
*I'm a Razer fan-boi and I've got this horrible feeling I'll buy the Turret if ED gets support.
Strangely enough, I used to be a Microsoft hardware fanboi...keyboards, mice...even the Sidey FFB I used for years. Then came the Razer Boomslang mouse thing in the late 90's where everybody and their dog wanted one...
I never liked the build quality of the Razer stuff though and switched to Logitech. I'm a dyed in the wool Logitech fanboi now... well, Corsair for internal PC bits and cases, Logitech for the peripherals...
Talking of which... I noticed the new version of the X56 has no reference to Saitek on it at all... it's now the Logitech X56 RGB with the little 'G' symbol LED on the back. I want one now of course...snazzy new name and grey/black paintjob...wonder if I can break my current Saitek one and get a replacement... since mine is a year old now and still under the 2 year Logitech replacement warranty? Nowt wrong with it at all of course...but I do like new stuff
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Haha. Yeah I figured the Saitek name was dead after looking at Amazon. The X52s are also referred to as "Logitech G" now, with no mention of the name Saitek. Hell, even the ones built during Mad Catz years like mine, are now branded purely with Logitech on the software.
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The BEST thing Logitech ever made: T-RB22
Oh! and I have a brand new one never even opened....
Only cost me thirty quid.
Erm Nope...
That is a mouse... what I use is a trackball.. much more responsive than a mouse...
this is what I have: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q0MAAOSwm4NbKC78/s-l1600.jpg I have 3 of them...
Edit: Oh! And the BEST THING about a trackball is I do not have to travel miles around the desk in order to kill something...
That is a mouse... what I use is a trackball.. much more responsive than a mouse...
this is what I have: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/q0MAAOSwm4NbKC78/s-l1600.jpg I have 3 of them...
Edit: Oh! And the BEST THING about a trackball is I do not have to travel miles around the desk in order to kill something...
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Oh nice. Little old school for me though. I like my 16K sensors and 16.8m colour LED lights.
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You should try Unreal Tournament and then run backwards and with the flick of a finger you can spin 180 degrees... all whilst shooting.
yep Goode Olde Days...
Oh! And it is also applicable to ANY FPS
Not disputing it.
Just prefer mice. F
I don't have one single control binding on my keyboard...everything on the HOTAS...even on that I rarely press a button or switch unless I'm firing guns since I use Voice attack. Keyboards are fine an' all... but kinda old school
Voice attack may be great And futuristic for PC players but I was lead to believe voice attack isn't available for xbox and so the next best think for us is keyboard.
I merely mentioned Voice Attack as there seems to be a raft of Xbox players imagining having a KB/M will be the Great Equaliser between Xbox and PC in the coming era of cross play.
Voice Attack isn't the new greatest thing for PC gamers either...it's been well established for many years and works in any and all games without the need for prior support...it reads or mimics keybinds so all that's required is a keyboard and a microphone. Hell...I even use it for basic Windows commands like copy/paste/move/delete or opening browsers, playing music, opening certain web pages, launching games....
It's not like the Xbox doesn't have that function already built in...since you can ask Cortana to take screenshots...record that etc...but Microsoft simply doesn't see the potential...or doesn't want to allow it... in widening that support to include controlling certain basic game functions.
Just imagine asking Cortana to lower your landing gear in E-D if you will...instead of just recording footage of you boosting into the back of a station
Many PC gamers also use eye/head tracking hardware, VR rigs and specialised game controllers like the Logitech G13 as well as a whole truckload of fancy HOTAS hardware. I have a keyboard with programmable gaming macro controls built in...as do many PC gamers..
I use all of these tools in practically every game I own on PC from the single player games like AC Odyssey to Tomb Raider et al to the multiplayer GR Wildlands, Battlefield V, ARMA 3, E-D, Star Citizen...many others.
So KB/M control isn't that much of an equaliser at all...is it?
I'm also an Xbox gamer...so not just some random Master Race dude popping in with no knowledge of how an Xbox works.
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Polling rate continues to be a big issue for mice compliance and use...
Many mice will malfunction... with rates above 125hz...
By default many gamer brands are sold with rates preset off 1000hz polling and that causes movement issues as they won't be processed by the console correctly in games
Check your exsisting mice for the option to turn down polling rate... if you want...
Many mice will malfunction... with rates above 125hz...
By default many gamer brands are sold with rates preset off 1000hz polling and that causes movement issues as they won't be processed by the console correctly in games
Check your exsisting mice for the option to turn down polling rate... if you want...
Only video Ive seen so far that warns of the Technical limits of K&M on Xbox one...(there may be others but I can't find them on youtube) Includes the polling rate issue and the "you will face PC users" gameplay issue of cross platform play...
[video=youtube;MCGAx_3_KSE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCGAx_3_KSE[/video]
USB extension cables can get around the using back ports cable length issue when buying wired mice...
[video=youtube;MCGAx_3_KSE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCGAx_3_KSE[/video]
USB extension cables can get around the using back ports cable length issue when buying wired mice...
I merely mentioned Voice Attack as there seems to be a raft of Xbox players imagining having a KB/M will be the Great Equaliser between Xbox and PC in the coming era of cross play.
Voice Attack isn't the new greatest thing for PC gamers either...it's been well established for many years and works in any and all games without the need for prior support...it reads or mimics keybinds so all that's required is a keyboard and a microphone. Hell...I even use it for basic Windows commands like copy/paste/move/delete or opening browsers, playing music, opening certain web pages, launching games....
It's not like the Xbox doesn't have that function already built in...since you can ask Cortana to take screenshots...record that etc...but Microsoft simply doesn't see the potential...or doesn't want to allow it... in widening that support to include controlling certain basic game functions.
Just imagine asking Cortana to lower your landing gear in E-D if you will...instead of just recording footage of you boosting into the back of a station
Many PC gamers also use eye/head tracking hardware, VR rigs and specialised game controllers like the Logitech G13 as well as a whole truckload of fancy HOTAS hardware. I have a keyboard with programmable gaming macro controls built in...as do many PC gamers..
I use all of these tools in practically every game I own on PC from the single player games like AC Odyssey to Tomb Raider et al to the multiplayer GR Wildlands, Battlefield V, ARMA 3, E-D, Star Citizen...many others.
So KB/M control isn't that much of an equaliser at all...is it?
I'm also an Xbox gamer...so not just some random Master Race dude popping in with no knowledge of how an Xbox works.
I don't think anyone is saying it's the "great equaliser" (although I haven't read every reply). It would be good to have it along side the controller or sticks that are now available for xbox. I have VA on PC and yeah its handy to use. However for Xbox having a keyboard for elite would allow for more keybinds for users that want them. I don't see what's wrong with adding more tools to the user.
If you're playing on Xbox or PC why would you care what the other is using? We don't have cross platform so why are you getting so upset about it? It would just be cool to have as an addition. You did do a bit of "flexing", atleast it comes across that way to me. You listed everything a PC has available yet don't like the idea of having keyboard and mouse available for xbox or merely people asking for it
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I don't really have an issue with Xbox players having the tools...after all, I waited for 7 years for it to happen on Xbox already. Nor am I guilty of many of the Master Race 'console-isms' having had those 7 years on Xbox.
I keep reading in various outlets however that some Xbox gamers think the keyboard and mouse support will bring some sort of parity with PC gamers in an FPS competitive sense, assuming crossplay becomes a thing...which isn't really the case.
As for flexing...nah, too old and don't play enough multiplayer games to even suggest it. I like the proper games with stories and characters better
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I don't really have an issue with Xbox players having the tools...after all, I waited for 7 years for it to happen on Xbox already. Nor am I guilty of many of the Master Race 'console-isms' having had those 7 years on Xbox.
I keep reading in various outlets however that some Xbox gamers think the keyboard and mouse support will bring some sort of parity with PC gamers in an FPS competitive sense, assuming crossplay becomes a thing...which isn't really the case.
As for flexing...nah, too old and don't play enough multiplayer games to even suggest it. I like the proper games with stories and characters better
The OP is asking if FDev are going to implement it. Not for the sake of being equal to pc. Seriously no one in this thread has suggested that, but you keep mentioning it.
The flexing was a mere joke buddy. I like games with a story and character building is cool, Mass Effect being one of my favourite games (1, 2 and 3). I also like games where I'm in charge of what I do and not be told what I can and can't do, hence why I play Elite.