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I don't consider it distasteful to have my CMDR high-wake. Sometimes he even high-wakes when not mass locked!

As long as this bug is around, he's probably only going to high-wake out of fights.

We're talking about dirty rotten gankers here. They despise high waking because it reduces their kill ratio and forces them to equip their ships with gear to prevent it.
 
Love it, I wish we could access all the info you can get up on the pc on the xbox. We've definitely done a few hundred over here but as far as I know it's impossible to get definitive numbers.

Got some highlights from the launch accompanied by Mr William Shatners dulcet tones.

https://youtu.be/qthzj_b-YfM

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Except its those who do the PvP who tell PvEers they are carebears and they should git gud and if they want to play the BGS/PP/etc they should do it in open.

They don't want others to play their own way, they want them to play the way they do.

Not at all. I am perfectly content to let every other player in the game play however they want to. Meta shields, no shields, A-Rated DD5s or unmodded D thrusters, lightwieght alloys or modded heavy bulkheads with HRPs. To each their own.

But if you deliberately underpower yourself, and put yourself into an environment where another player can overpower you by making smarter outfitting and engineering choices, then the consequences of that decision are on you.

It's the people who refuse to accept personal responsibility for their own destruction that I dislike.
 
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I have been watching these guys streaming DG2. and to be fair they are surprisingly honest and more often than not complementary about the people they gank, despite the vitriol they get thrown back at them.

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Careful, other users might interpret your post as tacit support or approval for PeeVeePeers and some posters will want you banned from the forums as well as the game.
 
Careful, other users might interpret your post as tacit support or approval for PeeVeePeers and some posters will want you banned from the forums as well as the game.

I keep expecting something along those lines.

My approval for unfettered PVP is anything but tacit that said!

Keep up the good work Cmdrs, and check out my sig.

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Not sure if I am allowed to say this, but..

I was also watching Nats stream yesterday, and there was one pvp type person (you can guess who) who successfully destroyed Nats ship. There were many many more pvpers who failed to even get close, in approx 2-3 hours of playing with them in open.

There were only compliments from Nats about, you know who; meanwhile on you know who's stream he was apologetic for destroying Nats ship. WEIRD...just weird.
 
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It's the people who refuse to accept personal responsibility for their own destruction that I dislike.
People not accepting personal responsibility for their own actions seems to be a theme.

Guess this is what happens when Frontier leaves a bug in the game that breaks all PvP and makes it literally unplayable, not to mention the complete lack of any PvP content over the past few years.
FDev's complete indifference to true PvP content has lead us to seek to create our own for a bit.

But you're going to tell me that's different right? :)
 
That sure is a lot of twisting to have a statement try and conform to your narrative, isn't it?

High-waking is considered distasteful if you're a PvPer, but not if you're a PvEer. Different standards applied to people of different skill levels. As a PvPer, you win, die, or low wake. Those are the options. The groups that high-wake out of fights are generally the worst of the worst (13th, BBfA, the rest of the "lawful" players) because they don't actually have the skill to get a successful low wake off without dying.

To answer your other question from an earlier post, the low wake bug isn't the entire reason everyone went out, but the straw that broke the camel's back. FDev's complete indifference to true PvP content has lead us to seek to create our own for a bit. Since normal PvP is entirely broken by the low wake bug and no one wants to watch the same 15000mj cutter low wake out, reboot shields, then immediately drop back in 5 times in a row, the opportunity was open for something like this, so we started planning.

EDIT: before you ask, Agony, you can high wake whenever you want to.

So the excuse is some bug that doesn't actually prevent challenging PvPcombat AT ALL but simply makes it easier for an opponent to flee if they don't want to play by your rules? And the chosen alternative is to target a group of unchallenging non-combat focused players who present easy targets and who are just trying to enjoy the game participating in an activity they enjoy? You lot are nothing more than a bunch of attention-seeking yobos who are incapable of letting others engage in such an event unmolested. You have to be the centre of attention in everything. It's seemingly impossible for anyone to want to enjoy any form of group activity in open without you lot trying to impose the way you want to play on others, which at the end of the day only means that if you're trying to drive others away from open, you're of course going about it the right way. And people want open-only Powerplay?

And Frontier's supposed indifference to PvP? Well, maybe that says to you that PvP is perhaps not actually a core focus of the game at large, but merely a by-product of the game environment and design? That it's not a particularly high priority for them? An intended inclusion, but not core? That perhaps the attitude of certain PvPers is not exactly a desired consequence? There is CQC of course, which is entirely PvP-focused content, but of course that's not good enough for you lot because you're limited in ship choice and loadout (and I actually don't blame you here really because I can see how limiting CQC is in that regard given the style of PvP you want), not to mention that everyone who joins CQC is actually prepared for PvP combat and the consequences are inconsequential on the loser in each fight. However, even if Frontier altered CQC to allow all ships in the game and all loadout options, I'd wager that still wouldn't be good enough for some, if not many, of you. But even with the limitations CQC imposes compared to your desired style of PvP, every time one of these mass events roll around you lot seem to take great delight in boasting about how many opponents you've destroyed from amongst a group of non-PvP focused players as though you've done something special.....and then you wonder why Frontier hasn't paid attention to a supposed bug that doesn't actually even stop you PvPing at all but is simply annoying when an opponent happens to not play your way, by your rules of what PvP 'should' be. And the solution is to go murdering a bunch of players who have little or no interest in PvPing, in playing your way and present soft targets, posing little or no challenge in combat. And you then want respect for that?

Stick to PvP leagues and you'd have my respect. Do this sort of thing and I look at such players with disgust.
 
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Not sure if I am allowed to say this, but..

I was also watching Nats stream yesterday, and there was one pvp type person (you can guess who) who successfully destroyed Nats ship. There were many many more pvpers who failed to even get close, in approx 2-3 hours of playing with them in open.

There were only compliments from Nats about, you know who; meanwhile on you know who's stream he was apologetic for destroying Nats ship. WEIRD...just weird.

Who's Nat?
 
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