I enjoy the game and am fine with changes and my place as an end user. There is no butthurt or lose option for me in any of this.
Everything is awesome
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I enjoy the game and am fine with changes and my place as an end user. There is no butthurt or lose option for me in any of this.
Everything is awesome
.You've been shown it before, its deflected by your attempts to reframe it as an "oversight" as with the ADS space-cash refund.
So put up a link then & fresh eyes can have a look. I'd like to see what quote you think is final.
No fresh eyes round here.
The FSS has essentially killed exploration for some and created unnecessary grind in some other areas, FD could have introduced the FSS without removing the ADS entirely.
The implementation of the FSS is min-game-tripe as is the Space-Golf. They are not good gameplay and are flawed in their general implementation. At least re-adding something akin to the ADS (c/f the OP) would help to reverse the fundamental mistake FD made. IMO they have breached their own rules of updating ED by removing the ADS functionality in the first place and are possibly in contempt of trading standards by changing the form/fit/function of their product in such a way.
While the FSS has it's benefits, the overall implementation of it detracts from the overall experience - especially in VR.
How is it an unnecessary backwards step? And calling the FSS better is absolute tripe from a high level perspective.
There are use cases where the FSS is perhaps an improvement but re-introducing something along the lines of what the OP is proposing is arguably a necessary step that would disadvantage no-one and make the game more playable for others.
I prefer the FSS.
Trading standards lol, good luck with that. Please keep me posted on just how hard they laugh at you.
So you like unjustified grind and overly complicated UIs that were poorly thought through and badly implemented - good for you.
So you like unjustified grind and overly complicated UIs that were poorly thought through and badly implemented - good for you.
I genuinely like the improved exploration mechanics, lucky me eh.
Never mind about that entirely subjective video game preference though I want to know more about your cunning plan to bring furious justice down on FDEV for making a popular addition to their video game.
Well, you see, there were plenty of suggestions and feedback from explorers ever since the FSS was first revealed, as well as suggested improvements after the beta launched. Frontier ignored pretty much all of them. Throughout the earlier updates, they often showed that they don't consider explorers, and then the same happened with the exploration update, so why bother putting in much effort?
Unfortunately, there are things now that we could find before but can no longer realistically find now. Now, with the general lack of new exploration content and the live game going on low-effort mode for a long time, most players I know have moved on from exploration, and often from the game as well. Others will probably do so after DW2 finishes. (Speaking of which, it's rather telling that with the new mechanics, at best 20% of those who have signed up are still exploring. We'll see how many finish, but I doubt it will be many more.) Personally, I have some respect for those who are still putting in some effort into suggestions like this, but I don't see much of a point.
Do note that instead of small tweaks, I'd rather Frontier gave the FSS the ADS treatment, and mostly removed it in favour of a new mechanic that they think would be improved. (It's not like there isn't precedent for this.) But even so, the earliest time that such could happen would be the expansion, 1.5-2 years hence. Of course, before that, the FSS could get plenty of QoL improvements, and it is in need of plenty of fixes anyway. We've seen that Frontier is in no hurry at all with those.
Popular? I suppose amongst masochists it might be.
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In that case, implementing something along the lines of what the OP has proposed would at least serve as a short term "fix" for the underlying problem that is caused by the implementation of the FSS... it affects more than just explorers too.
When/If FD do a complete rewrite of the FSS perhaps they can take into consideration the mess they created by removing the ADS in the first place.
What mess is that?
What grind. Nothing complicated about it. I wouldn't call it poorly implemented, but it could be better.So you like unjustified grind and overly complicated UIs that were poorly thought through and badly implemented - good for you.
Popular? I suppose amongst masochists it might be.
From my perspective as a player who plays the games I enjoy, the masochists hang around the forums of games they dislike constantly complaining about other people having fun.
Have you contacted trading standards yet ?.
Nah, not constantly complaining - just supporting constructive ideas that put the games I paid for and used to enjoy that would put them at least slightly back on track.
Those that constantly complain about such ideas though....
I'm not sure accusing people who are happier than you of being masochists and banging on about FDEV being "in contempt of trading standards" counts as constructive. Comedy waffle yes, but it definitely doesn't help the idea as it makes it seem a little bonkers.
Not a masochist - exercising my right to complain, support ideas that are good, and debunk the totally invalid counter arguments.
Your "arguments" don't help as they sound like they are not even loosely based on reality.
Just as I wouldn't want any player to be given a billion credits for nothing as, I don't want you to get the system picture for nothing.
I'm very glad FSS made sight-seeing tourism a little harder and I hope future changes add more inevitable gameplay to exploration.