If we're supposed to remember, what's the last thing we got from the Salomé storyline? The Teorge listening posts?
Two years today. Remember Salome - Text Cyphers
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I believe it was her final speech - the requiem. For reference: https://canonn.science/codex/panacea-medical-centre/
That said, the old woman Rebecca had a real hard time remembering thanks to hexedit. Spent a lot of time leaving herself clues Memento style so she could remember what she was doing against the Club. Feels like there's something there to me, but I'm not a code breaker.
Caesar cipher - Wikipedia
I found this when looking up rot13 cypther.
What if you combne ceaser with fibonacci sequance somehow. Maybe it's a combo of value shifts.
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233,etc.
Or use rot13 on the characters in the fibonacci sequence.
I think there were 328 characters. If you take out the 0 there are only 13 fibonacci numbers before 328. It's a little coincidental.
Or use RotFib and use Fib as the value and rotate on a 26 character map somehow. It's a lot of character but... Or only for each word as it simplifies this. Only problem is do you start at 0 or 1 or 1?
You could also just directly number shift the numbers.
0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89,144,233
I get the feeling that the vowel count and iterations mean we are not shifting letters but may be scrambled with fibonacci or something. It seems to straight forward.
There is something interesting about the number or characters in each word. They have a very limited set of of totals. 6,7,9,11 etc.
Got me. I suck at this.
ea: fb, gc,hd,ie(4),jf,kg,lh,mi,nj,ok(10),pl,qm,rn,so(14),tp,uq,vr,ws,xt,yu,zv,aw(22),bx,cy,dz,ea
iein i: 4 = mimr m; 10 = sosx s; 14 = wswb w; 22 = dadj d
diou: 4 = hmsy; 10 = nsye; 14 = rwxi; 22 = zefq
rn: 0 = ro; 1 = so; 1 = sp
Run through 13 then fibonacci?
diou: qvbh: 0 = qwcj; 1 = rwdk; 1 = rxem
Doesn't look like it.
Still looks like scrambled player names to me. I think it's a tribute to those who took part.
261 character.
clue is 328 or 332.
Can any cyphers increase the character count by adding over 26 and splitting into multiple characters?
This has exactly 48 words. But no double words. So, unless spaces count as a character... which they could. If so the spaces might help figure out the cypher. Odd if it's just this poem scrambled...
Maybe by the word and character count we could identify it.
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I and I are very annoying. What idiot decided that was a good thing in character sets?! Apparently courier new font and ciphers are best friends. It should be every forums new default text!!!
Might need a different number to run it through.
Also, there are exactly 4 lines of spaces for 52 spaces in the text. This on top of 328 characters is 380 characters. That is a very round number. Too round!
Maybe if you reverse the cipher and just encrypt it... Oddly enough it's 13/26 which is perfect for shifting..
I and I are very annoying. What idiot decided that was a good thing in character sets?! Apparently courier new font and ciphers are best friends. It should be every forums new default text!!!
Might need a different number to run it through.
Also, there are exactly 4 lines of spaces for 52 spaces in the text. This on top of 328 characters is 380 characters. That is a very round number. Too round!
Maybe if you reverse the cipher and just encrypt it... Oddly enough it's 13/26 which is perfect for shifting..
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OP might want to correct the right hand text fifth from the bottom is: munVitiDo
Good spot, done.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
You are combining several different things into one. Your post concerns things not related to Raxxla. Head over to the correct thread: Salome Thread
This guy pointed out that the numbers were related to fibonacci like was hinted towards this. They had a sequence of numbers and replaced the fibonacci values and added them up to get 46...
7 7, 1, 1 7, 8, 2, 9, 1, 9, 0, 4, 4 6, 1, 4, 0, 6, 6 4, 5
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34?
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
0-9:
13 13 1 1 13 21 1 34 0 34 3 3 6 0 3 34 8 8 3 5 = 204
1-0:
8 8 0 0 8 13 1 21 0 21 34 2 2 5 0 2 34 5 5 2 3 = 174
Also, what if each number is a key using fibonacci numbers to figure out a cypher for the corresponding chunk of text?
Last time the clue was "Fi(0) SUM(10,7,5,3)" though, so the idea to use the fibonacci sequence was more or less obvious. I feel like if this is a mathematical cypher, they would hint us somehow (maybe via mythology) which is the correct formula to use.
I made a bad start here by posting on the Raxxla thread instead of here (blame Google and a similar well intentioned but misdirected post...)
I was interested by the distribution of the letters. There were 245 a-z lower case, 61 A-Z upper case, 22 digits 0-9, and 4 spaces.
There are a lot of 'words' and characters overall in the list. It was suggested this could just be player names or system names, but seems unlikely given the history. This will likely translate to a message. The word length is 6.9, much longer than the English average of about 4.5, and there are not many short three letter words. Hence the "words" to me seem unlikely to be words and we can group the strings together. Question if the carriage return is also a character to be counted or not. As there are 4 spaces within the words, do we assume that there is never a space at the end of a word (as an encrypted character) as we couldn't find it ; so perhaps the 4 spaces are a delimiter rather than a coded character.
For a text cypher that is using upper case letters and numbers, would we normally expect a more even distribution? The ratio of upper to lower case might indicate that the upper case letter is the start of a word (~4 letters per word?) Maybe the digits don't translate. A message we're likely to receive might contain a system name and planetary coordinates, although this might be messy without a way to determine minus sign or a decimal point.
It was also interesting that with lower and upper case letters, digits, spaces and carriage returns, we have 64 characters. So like a lot of other people I'm trying a lot of translation and rotation of characters. Reading backwards, or vertically. No joy yet.... From the 'Remember', and 'Hexedit', are we being pushed towards a maths cypher?
I was interested by the distribution of the letters. There were 245 a-z lower case, 61 A-Z upper case, 22 digits 0-9, and 4 spaces.
There are a lot of 'words' and characters overall in the list. It was suggested this could just be player names or system names, but seems unlikely given the history. This will likely translate to a message. The word length is 6.9, much longer than the English average of about 4.5, and there are not many short three letter words. Hence the "words" to me seem unlikely to be words and we can group the strings together. Question if the carriage return is also a character to be counted or not. As there are 4 spaces within the words, do we assume that there is never a space at the end of a word (as an encrypted character) as we couldn't find it ; so perhaps the 4 spaces are a delimiter rather than a coded character.
For a text cypher that is using upper case letters and numbers, would we normally expect a more even distribution? The ratio of upper to lower case might indicate that the upper case letter is the start of a word (~4 letters per word?) Maybe the digits don't translate. A message we're likely to receive might contain a system name and planetary coordinates, although this might be messy without a way to determine minus sign or a decimal point.
It was also interesting that with lower and upper case letters, digits, spaces and carriage returns, we have 64 characters. So like a lot of other people I'm trying a lot of translation and rotation of characters. Reading backwards, or vertically. No joy yet.... From the 'Remember', and 'Hexedit', are we being pushed towards a maths cypher?
I made the same bad start, when you google for a forum to discuss the Salomé picture, you find the Raxxla thread. Happens.
After trying lots of Vigenere keys and rotating letters not only ROT13 but the whole alphabet I've found nothing. I'm gonna try only the capital letters and see if that can be uncyphered with Vigenere. Probably not though.
Edit: Capital letters didn't help. Only capital letters that are NOT in the cypher are BJNUXY but that doesn't help either.
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According to the image and the rot13, "the" from the beginning should be replaced with "my". The first 3 letters, as I see them, are "ZL", not "GUR", Z stands for M and L stands for Y.
There are lower case letters, upper case, and numbers in the text, so it would have to be a..zA..Z0..9. Or could be aAbBcC...zZ0..9. In any case, I can't find an easy online tool, most of the ROT or Caesarian shift tools use just a lower case alphabet. Trying to use Excel with the hlookup function to develop a ROT script, but it's taking a bit of time.
My own attempts have been along the lines of trying to use a Fibonacci series to "pick" the letters out of the text. Unfortunately, the problem with the Fibonacci series is that the numbers get big very fast, so if the message is long, it becomes very difficult to track, for example, the 144th letter etc.
Anyway, I first tried to arrange the letters in a grid, to make it easier to count. The first few letters, 1 1 2 3 5 8 13, seem to be "eye on hq" but it becomes gibberish after that.
Then it occurred to me (while using Excel above) that T7 C7 H17 could be cell designations, and the highest number I saw was H19 (row 19) and T2 (column T), so I re-arranged the text in a block of 20 rows, see if I could apply cell references to it. In this case, all the numbers are associated with the letter immediately preceding them, to form "cell references". This "gets rid" of all the numbers in the text.
I was going to replace the cell references (T7 for example) with links ( =T7), which would make Excel put the character S in cell B1, which would change the decoded message a bit. Unfortunately A0 and O0 are invalid cell references, so that kinda invalidated the whole idea.
Anyway, posted here, perhaps it gives someone an idea.
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Hey, I might not be and good work there. I feel a bit like a stamp on an idea so apologies Ko Shiji. I have no idea on the coding and I was part and parcel of the previous fun stuff in Elite. Keep looking. However, it is not Commander names. You just need to look at the numbers. They are... odd.
If I expect what things 'could' transpire then it is a message that Salome sent to herself before her mind was wiped from the Hexedit drug. Or ( if FD get's involved and umm, phoned Mr W ) a continuation of the story ingame. Unfortunately it would seem that Drew has retired from Elite. Salome is dead.