Fuel scoops - reality check required.
- Thread starter Stealthie
- Start date
Well, I usually play in 3-4 hour chunks, do a lot of FSSing and have fun on the planets both with SRV and fighters. When I'm out in a Beluga, I refuel every three or four days.
7A on a Clipper? That's like a portable hydrogen fuel processing plant you are flying. My Clipper jumps 25ly unladen and 4A is enough to fill entire tank in a spin.
I'd rather stick needles in my eyes than use either of those on a Phantom.
Believe me. Buckyballers are insane. I only ever tried to compete twice and it almost cost me my mind and reason.
They would literally die for two tenths of a second.
Deleted member 38366
D
I equip Fuel Scoops with the role of the Ships in mind.
- any Ship that frequently has to go places quickly will get a large Fuel Scoop (sacrificing largest slot if the Internals dictate it)
- any typical Exploration Ship will get the largest remaining slot behind Shields
- any Ship that only infrequently has to travel (mild distances) but rather remains on Station at the Destination after arrival will get a smaller Fuel Scoop (i.e. 4A on a Large Ship)
130,000Ly round-trip to Beagle Point.
65Ly ship.
2,000 jumps.
And exta 0.2s per jump equates to nearly 7 whole minutes of extra scooping during the journey to Beagle Point and back.
Oh. Hmmm.
my aim is to fill the tank in about 30 secs, which means you can refill a half empty tank 'en passant', which is my favorite way to go. jumps were never boring for me (if you do 1000 jumps in a session that's a completely different issue). this means that even when fitted for combat i usually reserve the second biggest internal slot for the scoop, e.g. about an A4 for a fdl.
if it is a highly specific wasp then i would probably have no scoop at all and just use ship transfer (or very carefully planned my jumps before that), but given the low quality of the combat implementation, the abysmal multiplayer setting and the silly and convoluted power creep aimed at kids with more self esteem issues than time and plenty of time, i haven't done that for ages. meh.
if it is a highly specific wasp then i would probably have no scoop at all and just use ship transfer (or very carefully planned my jumps before that), but given the low quality of the combat implementation, the abysmal multiplayer setting and the silly and convoluted power creep aimed at kids with more self esteem issues than time and plenty of time, i haven't done that for ages. meh.
I'm in the Abyss right now so eco jump is a lot like fastest jump.
Flying a Phantom would be sticking needles in my eyes. 3A is already a huge compromise for me. I really like my armours
Seems like some slow ships, but yeah, 7 mins could drop you multiple places.
Community Event / Creation - Buckyball Racing Club presents: The A* Challenge
Fancy a shorter trip? Take a look at the Club website for our other races (roughly every 3-4 weeks)! What is it? The A* Challenge is simple: Fly from Sol (or Wolf 359) to Sagittarius A*, the supermassive black hole at the centre of the galaxy, and record your time for doing so. Of...
Never really put too much thought into fuel scoops, so it's really interesting to read this thread. My only strategy has been to fit the biggest possible on explorers and anything else gets something that'll fill the tank in 1 min 30s - 2 min. I always fit a-rated, since they get chucked into the bottom of the power priority list anyway.
With bad memories of how hard and time consuming I used to find fuel scooping back on the Spectrum it was ages before I bought one this time round, I was quite surprised to find just how deep into fuel scooping distance from the star I had been flying for all that time in fact I actually started to fly a little further out.
As long as it was just after they captured the finish time.
Always the biggest possible A rated for exploration.
For other ships, it depends on the available modules. Used to run a Python for bubble duties and found a 4A worked perfect for that...
For ships that make me jump-nervous like the Vulture and Viper3 I often fit an ‘emergency’ 1A fuel scoop and leave it powered off. It’s comforting to know it’s there.
For other ships, it depends on the available modules. Used to run a Python for bubble duties and found a 4A worked perfect for that...
For ships that make me jump-nervous like the Vulture and Viper3 I often fit an ‘emergency’ 1A fuel scoop and leave it powered off. It’s comforting to know it’s there.
If I'm going to kiss the stars then I fit my best scoop.
Yeah, I remember that. Cabin temperature off the scale, alarms going off and the moment of panic that it's not going to work and you'll crash into the star. Have to admit I started the game hugging the exclusion zone as a result of that as well.
This is what I do too. The long haul ships get the biggest and best one I can afford. I have a couple of C7 scoops, one an A and the other a C (or D iirc ?) and basically one of each all the way down to a C2 or C3 of various grades stay in my garage.
Normally I don't put one on my combat ships or short range hauler but if I need to take it 6 or 10 jumps away for eng or whatever, I'll put a fuel tank on it. I have one of each from C2 to C6; really handy imho.
Lots of feelings in this thread - please allow me to inject some facts:
Unless something major has changed, once you load into the system, you have the FSD Cooldown timer, and then the FSD Charge-Up time where you are going exactly nowhere. If maximum travel time efficiency is what is desired, then your Fuel Scoop need only fit into this amount of time. Anything faster is not, in fact, saving you any time at all, though it does allow you to scoop at a higher rate from farther away. I find that benefit to be minimal at best, to be honest. If someone is the type that runs the tank pretty dry before scooping, then a faster scoop will (obviously) refill it faster per time, but most people don't do it that way the majority of the time. All your scoop needs to do, in most cases, is refill one maximum jump's worth of fuel during the FSD Cooldown/Spool Up time period.
Running a 7A or 8A scoop is an egregious waste of both credits and power. It's nothing to me if people decide to use those, but that doesn't change the truth of what I just said. 8D/7C are what they should be using, especially if they are also running thin on power.
And yikes, what the hell happened to my pic? It looks terrible in this new forum.
Riôt