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We'll see. This isn't the first time they announced fleet carriers. As I have already mentioned in this thread, I'm more happy to be proven wrong than right. My concern is it will be a poor version of what was originally hoped.

If, come December, carriers are delivered PROPERLY (ie not a half baked equivalent just to say they did it), I'll admit I was incorrect. Until then, the thread title remains unchanged.

and what was originally hoped?
you made up your personal narrative on fleet carriers, based on nothing, ready to open another thread saying you was right, the others were wrong.
 

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You have already been proven wrong I am afraid. It seems you are now just simply doubling down by moving the goal posts. "They have not cancelled it but they still can, and even if they dont it may actually be bad".

Be my guest. I guess that if we really put our mind into it we could also probably even criticize and dismiss Flemming for discovering penicillin or deny the moon landings for example ;) .

Not sure what's so hard to understand. If it is delivered then I was wrong. If a half-baked equivalent is delivered in it's stead, then I'm not....

Man, you guys get so confrontational when anyone dares question the religion of Frontier Developments. I'm happy to be wrong. But they aren't here yet, as far as I know. Let's see in December how wrong, or otherwise, I am.

The second paragraph of your response was very juvenile and bereft of any value, I would advise removing it in order to save face.
 

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Hmm, maybe you should define what you hope Carriers will be. All they've floated to date is this stuff:

  • "A mobile base of operations for Squadrons where its members can refuel, rearm, and respawn."
Source: Expo 2017 Livestream [1]

  • "So the fleet carrier is going to be a very large ship, which members of the Squadron will be able to dock with."
  • "If enough of a certain resources is available the ship will be able to move."
  • "That's not on the weekly tick, it's whenever you have the resources to do it."
  • "There will be various other things you can upgrade on it, and things to go with that."
  • "People [not in the Squadron] will be able to visit your Squadron's fleet carrier, but they will not get permission to dock"
  • "They can see it, so that if we do manage to get any customisation options in and stuff other people can see what you've done. And if we do get visual representation of upgrades, for example, they can see what you've upgraded"
Source: Squadron Focused Feedback Vid: [1] & [2]

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If your expectations go beyond that you might end up being right about being wrong again ;)

I expect more than that, yes. That's just a capital ship, which is already in the game. It wouldn't take 18 months to tweek stuff already there.
 

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Maybe the reason it's taken so long is because we're going to be able to walk around fleet carriers as a precursor to 2020.....

(Just throwing this little grenade in the mix)
 

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Not sure what's so hard to understand. If it is delivered then I was wrong. If a half-baked equivalent is delivered in it's stead, then I'm not....

Man, you guys get so confrontational when anyone dares question the religion of Frontier Developments. I'm happy to be wrong. But they aren't here yet, as far as I know. Let's see in December how wrong, or otherwise, I am.

The second paragraph of your response was very juvenile and bereft of any value, I would advise removing it in order to save face.

It is just a matter of record actually. You were simply wrong.

Nothing wrong with that, pun intended 😋
 
Not sure what's so hard to understand. If it is delivered then I was wrong. If a half-baked equivalent is delivered in it's stead, then I'm not....

Man, you guys get so confrontational when anyone dares question the religion of Frontier Developments. I'm happy to be wrong. But they aren't here yet, as far as I know. Let's see in December how wrong, or otherwise, I am.

The second paragraph of your response was very juvenile and bereft of any value, I would advise removing it in order to save face.

You said they were canceled.... they are not canceled. You were wrong, regardless of their implementation or whatever mental gymnastics you try to do
 
Maybe the reason it's taken so long is because we're going to be able to walk around fleet carriers as a precursor to 2020.....

(Just throwing this little grenade in the mix)

This is actually very plausible. If (as I said elsewhere) this latest "update" is a confirmation of the veracity of the leak, and therefore space legs are indeed coming, it would be stupid to release fleet carriers that aren't "walk ready".

It makes sense that the delay was caused by this.
 
If a half-baked equivalent is delivered in it's stead, then I'm not

You would absolutely still be wrong about it being canceled in that scenario.
You trying to dance away from that statement is pretty hilarious ;)

Man, you guys get so confrontational when anyone dares question the religion of Frontier Developments.

Have you read your own thread title? :D. It was stupidly confrontational... And off the back of a duff conjecture. This is just your just desserts ;)

I expect more than that, yes. That's just a capital ship, which is already in the game. It wouldn't take 18 months to tweek stuff already there

Then don't be super surprised if your expectations prove inaccurate ¯\(ツ)
 

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I refer you to your original post.

As I've said a number of times, I hope FDev prove me wrong and deliver good gameplay and a good implementation of carriers. I'll wait until December though. I've been let down too many times to take intended content at face value....for eg the first time carriers were coming.
 

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Have you read your own thread title? :D. It was stupidly confrontational... And off the back of a duff conjecture. This is just your just desserts ;)

I thought it was obvious my thread title was tongue-in-cheek.
 
I thought it was obvious my thread title was tongue-in-cheek.

Oh sweet, the 'I was only joking' defence :D

Strange then that you are still standing by the thread title as your position just a few posts up.

Until then, the thread title remains unchanged.

Only now based on the principle that FDev have to surpass even their own pitch for Carriers to meet your criteria for 'not cancelled'.

Which is weird, because your initial criteria for being right was that they were, y'know, definitely completely cancelled:

No. Because it's indefinite (ie never). I'd respect them more if they just said they tried and failed. It's more honest than leaving players hanging with no clear indication either way.

Etc etc.

Look it's really easy. Just admit you were wrong. It's how we learn from our mistakes, by acknowledging them, and figuring out how they happened.

I'll offer one up: I was convinced FDev would aim for a 2019 launch date for the DLC. Said as much at great length. I was totally wrong. I'd let my desire for that to be the case tie together insufficient evidence into a neat little bundle, and then, assured by the bundle's weight, convinced myself I had truth in my pocket. Forgetting the big mass of things floating out there that were still unknown ;)

See, it ain't so hard...

Holding on to a daft theory to save face is a waste of time. Just get on with critiquing whatever FDev do with Carriers just like everyone else ;). Just without the 'this actually means they're cancelled' monkey on your back. Easy :)
 
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If, come December, carriers are delivered PROPERLY (ie not a half baked equivalent just to say they did it), I'll admit I was incorrect. Until then, the thread title remains unchanged.

Are you really equating content that you don't like with the absence of content?

"I don't like the way my mommy cut up my spaghetti, therefor there is no spaghetti."

- RamboJambo as a kid, probably
 
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