You are mistaken. I thought everyone was clear that the game revolves around me?
That's pretty much been my point of view the last couple of days.I'm basing this more on all the negative feedback I'm reading about Fleet Carriers rather than my own feelings about them. Simply put, I believe Frontier's mistake was to focus solely on content for the "classes" while providing nothing for the "masses". Had the update included something that ALL players could enjoy, be it a new SRV or a new type of SLF (something for shuttling or mining), or perhaps the new ice planets, or a new ship or two (small or large this time), or [insert frequently-requested new feature], then I think there would be less, "That's it, I'm done!" threads. People would still complain about FCs, but at least everyone would have something to look forward to.
I'm not done with Elite. My first reaction was that it didn't fit what I wanted to do (exploration), but then I realized I have an account focused on trading and that the carrier could work there. So I found something I can use it for, rather than it fit into what I really wanted to do. In the end though, I think Frontier kind'a missed the ball on this a bit, because I agree with you, to keep the players, you have to give everyone or at least a majority of players something. There's been so many updates in the past that had little or nothing relating to exploration, so it's no surprise that this didn't either.Am I wrong? If you're one of the people who are now "done" with Elite, would you feel differently if this update had something for you, even if that something wasn't Fleet Carriers? Even though I'm not angry about Fleet Carriers, I definitely want to see more content for the masses, not the classes*.
* credit to Jack Tramiel of Commodore
I'm surprised you didn't realize this until now! It's been like that for years.It's a sad day when login into the forum is better than actually login into the game.
I was on hiatus for a good month or so, having grown bored with the current content. This isn't a snipe at Frontier - I've been playing the game since 2017, so without new content, it's only natural for a long-time player to grow bored. What brought me back is Drew Wagar's Lore Tour, though I'm still not overly "ooh, ahh" about the gameplay itself. Now if Frontier reinstated Interstellar Initiatives, then I'd jump back into the pool with both feet and a big splashI'm not done with Elite.
If anything I'm mad with Frontier and especially DB the man himself , the game that he hyped during the kickstarter video's is far from what we have today some 6 years down the line.Am I wrong? If you're one of the people who are now "done" with Elite, would you feel differently if this update had something for you, even if that something wasn't Fleet Carriers? Even though I'm not angry about Fleet Carriers, I definitely want to see more content for the masses, not the classes*.
* credit to Jack Tramiel of Commodore
I'm basing this more on all the negative feedback I'm reading about Fleet Carriers rather than my own feelings about them. Simply put, I believe Frontier's mistake was to focus solely on content for the "classes" while providing nothing for the "masses". Had the update included something that ALL players could enjoy, be it a new SRV or a new type of SLF (something for shuttling or mining), or perhaps the new ice planets, or a new ship or two (small or large this time), or [insert frequently-requested new feature], then I think there would be less, "That's it, I'm done!" threads. People would still complain about FCs, but at least everyone would have something to look forward to.
Am I wrong? If you're one of the people who are now "done" with Elite, would you feel differently if this update had something for you, even if that something wasn't Fleet Carriers? Even though I'm not angry about Fleet Carriers, I definitely want to see more content for the masses, not the classes*.
* credit to Jack Tramiel of Commodore
I don't disagree.If anything I'm mad with Frontier and especially DB the man himself , the game that he hyped during the kickstarter video's is far from what we have today some 6 years down the line.
We are so far away from what was showed in the dev video's even a military drive couldn't get us back on course.
Since key people who was there from the start have left or been moved onto other projects the game has stalled.
This game could have been something really special but I can never see that happening now.
Caving to the solo carrier guys (i.e. losing focus of what this is)
Better ways to make money than expo data. I think they're just afraid people would head on out to the black and never return.I think a good question is WHY are Universal Cartographics not available on them? Legit question for spitballing here.
Did Frontier explain why? I didn't see the stream in full.
I have a pessimistic theory that since Carto data sells for good value, it'd be too easy for people to maintain the upkeep costs.
A less malicious theory would be they don't want a bunch of carriers in the black, due to networking/some reason.. I have no idea.
What are your theories as to why Carto isn't included? I can't really come up with a good reason.
Yeah, if Plan A (release Carriers in Beyond Season 3.3 with nuMining and nuExploration etc) was executed than I think some of the responses here would be a bit calmer. As it is, that deadline was missed, then another, and now Carriers are ready for deployment and just Carriers - nothing else. The first content release in over 480 days and some players feel excluded from that content.
I have no issue with the price of Carriers, or even no UC services on them. Its just a pity Plan A didn't work.
I think that's why they changed from Squadron to solo assets, Fd didn't want thousand's of one man squads.This, and I would like to know how fdev convinced themselves that we all such control freaks that we have to drive it and nobody else, when we can't even 'drive' it anyway.
I mean, just create yourself a squadron, don't let anyone join your squadron and drive it all the time as you see fit, right??
Thing is, I can cash my expo data at any asteroid base found in most nebula, thus I can already head out and never return. /OTBetter ways to make money than expo data. I think they're just afraid people would head on out to the black and never return.
This, and I would like to know how fdev convinced themselves that we all such control freaks that we have to drive it and nobody else, when we can't even 'drive' it anyway.
I mean, just create yourself a squadron, don't let anyone join your squadron and drive it all the time as you see fit, right??
Good point, not sure what their reasons are then.Thing is, I can cash my expo data at any asteroid base found in most nebula, thus I can already head out and never return. /OT
I agree, they should've also avoided to tease FC as a content for single/solo players by calling them "Personal Carriers". They should've left the original "Squadron Carriers" name so it was clear it was a content focused on players interactions.I'm basing this more on all the negative feedback I'm reading about Fleet Carriers rather than my own feelings about them. Simply put, I believe Frontier's mistake was to focus solely on content for the "classes" while providing nothing for the "masses". Had the update included something that ALL players could enjoy, be it a new SRV or a new type of SLF (something for shuttling or mining), or perhaps the new ice planets, or a new ship or two (small or large this time), or [insert frequently-requested new feature], then I think there would be less, "That's it, I'm done!" threads. People would still complain about FCs, but at least everyone would have something to look forward to.
Am I wrong? If you're one of the people who are now "done" with Elite, would you feel differently if this update had something for you, even if that something wasn't Fleet Carriers? Even though I'm not angry about Fleet Carriers, I definitely want to see more content for the masses, not the classes*.
* credit to Jack Tramiel of Commodore
It seems that all fecal-storm is focused on the same topic, which is pretty new to me. This community has never been so united.People complain. FD can't do anything without a fecal-storm. Get over it.