You don't play Elite Dangerous, it plays you.
Why did you stop playing Elite?
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Players are humans and humans are animals. Because if humans are not animals, they would be plants, but this is factually wrong since there is no third category after flora and fauna.
This thread is about a game and not about nomenclature of flora and fauna though.
Indeed, that doesn't make any sense, there shouldn't be any kind of distinction between players and npcs.
There will always be until we get true AI.
Ground my fingers to the bone ; can no longer operate controls.
My first first long break was probably university, back in '87, though I may have stopped sooner, and it lasted all the way til Elite Dangerous.
The next break was Engineers, it put me off for a long time...
The latest... I just got bored and sought entertainment elsewhere. I keep coming back, but for shorter and shorter times. Fleet carriers are another thing that puts me off... Elite has changed a lot since it's origins as the "sole trader in space". Now we're fleet commanders. It's not what I signed up for in 1984, and not what I came back for either.
The next break was Engineers, it put me off for a long time...
The latest... I just got bored and sought entertainment elsewhere. I keep coming back, but for shorter and shorter times. Fleet carriers are another thing that puts me off... Elite has changed a lot since it's origins as the "sole trader in space". Now we're fleet commanders. It's not what I signed up for in 1984, and not what I came back for either.
I meant no distinction in game rules, not in how they act. Of course NPCs will never act like true humans, but there is no reason why a player ship doesn't drop engineer materials, or still has bounties capped at 2 million now that C&P prevents the original friendly kill exploit, and most especially being worth only 1 powerplay merit instead of the 30 like npc ships.
I guess that has to do with players not liking to get farmed. Or spawn camped. C&P prevents not all exploits I believe. Then again, who'd bother with setting up such when the credits roll in like candy anyway. In any case, players abuse and game systems all the time. If it isn't for credits they do it for the BGS or whatever they like to exploit.
This thread is about a game and not about nomenclature of flora and fauna though.
huh?
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This time I will post on topic. I've stopped (not quit, that's different) playing ED in favor of Space Engineers, which I'm greatly enjoying at the moment. As such, I've read through some of the community posts on Steam, which is kinda SE's version of this forum, and wow, I actually thought I was back on this forum! The major difference is that right now I'm a "white knight fanboi" for SE who doesn't understand much of the hate that Keen and SE is getting from a section of the community. I suspect I'm still in the early honeymoon stage where I have only experienced a few bugs and haven't tried doing anything on a grandiose scale, which is where I was almost three years ago with Elite. Regardless, it's funny how similar the threads there are to here.
This statement is true. Nothing to add here except that I just corrected your previous statement that was false.
Not sure when I actually stopped playing. I had reduced my play time over the last couple of years to maybe once a month but probably not played in a couple of months now. In addition, the duration of the game time has reduced substantially.
I am with you there. I cannot be bothered to invest the energy in to this game any longer.
To pile the arguments as to why I play alot less then I used to.
Just a few of all the things that have me to less and less login to my CMDR. I do hope they use this time for the New ERA to bring us new, improved, interesting and diverse things todo...as the pontential to fill the game with stuff todo is huge!
- Inconsistent changes, like we can 3D print ship launched fighters but not SRV
- We cannot mix wings and multi crew, so every one that was 4 players doing things together could not enjoy multi crew as one could not join in on the fun.
- Multi crew was mainly incorporated for combat, for other things there are very limited gameplay options. Sure I can get to visit an explorer and marvel at the scenery, but there are very limited use for me tag along friend out exploring using multi crew.
- The inconsistent on changes, where game breaking stuff are left for long times, but things that affected the credit earnings could be panic patched very fast.
- There is a huge lore of the game, and very little of this is used for game content
- The state of the PvP activities, there could be systems "dedicated" to PvP conflicts where we could have 24/7 conflict going on, anyone could enter these systems regardless if they want to pledge for any side or not.
- The sad state of C&P and the failure to use these mechanics to create new game play options, why not give players the option to be an outlaw, and thus they opt to avoid systems where they are wanted in or risk facing ATR class security response that will hunt them, the more wanted the bigger the response should be. Also this could be used to encourage players do criminal acts in high secrity systems and the payment is increased based on the increase risk, and also doing transport missions of high valuable cargo to anarchy system should be alot more dangerous and be high paying for successful delivery.
- Power Play weapons/modules, the time gated way to earn these!
- Engineering implementation and changes, to big power creep instead of more side grades, so that more options would be viable. Engineering 2.0 was a good change from 1.0, but to encourage players to convert most of their modules, the power creep was huge in that update, with a few exceptions, old god rolls was now mediocre compared to the new max rolls in the new system.
- Modules variants, why use E, C and most B rated modules (there are use for this in combat ships), as we mostly use A-rated for the best in class and D-rated to shed weight. Before it used to be a credit incentive as you could not afford the A-rated module, and thus the progress was through the modules, now this is for most players a non issue
- The insane increase in how much credits you can make compared to the first 2 years.
- Fleet carriers presentation and
- Very little content for small ships, there is very little reason keep using small ships, as everywhere they are usable, in almost all cases a medium ship can be used and would perform better. Like for example why do all outpost have both small and medium landing pads? who would use small ships to haul cargo to these places? when basically any medium sized ship could do it better? I would like to see good reasons to use any sized ship depending on destination etc,
- I do get that FDev do not want to make this into a hand-holding experience like what WoW did. but adding some story missions (using the Lore) etc would give us stuff todo and explore the game world for interesting parts, here I think progress in Empire and Federation would have been a really good place to add this kind of content, so we could explore the history if these entities, and of course, Alliance could have the same kind of content too, even if they do not have any stupid ranks...
- The empiric data that the game client is a mess.
- The lack of customization, I would love to see some mod support to change the UI for example, move fields around, change the font size etc, so for example some enthusiastic VR CMDR's could create kick-ass UI mod, that enhances the VR experience for example! And we all could get easy access to change the UI colours etc Also think about the having a UI mod that enhances the exploration experience, and another one that enhances mining experience etc.
Just a few of all the things that have me to less and less login to my CMDR. I do hope they use this time for the New ERA to bring us new, improved, interesting and diverse things todo...as the pontential to fill the game with stuff todo is huge!
It does not matter, if it is "ones thing" or not, game mechanic wise it is objectively weak, because it does not demand anything but patience. However, as you said, the distances are intrinsic to to ED, because it is one of the main features, the 1:1 scale galaxy. Is it realistic? To a certain degree, for sure. Is it the best playground? Probably not.
The quote is ultimately correct, though. ED is hard to learn and easy to master in most areas. And where it is the other way round (high level combat), FDev "forgot" to make it really worthwhile. The hardest part of ED is finding out how things work or how things need to be accomplished. If you now that, it is just down to a simple, not very challenging (and repetitive) game loop for the most part.
I'm not surprised you imagine there was something to be corrected, because you contradict yourself.
Too busy to play the game right now.
My property is falling apart.
My property is falling apart.
Nice! More pics ?I grew bored
I'm currently playing Space Engineers. I've been spending a lot of time welding, which reminds me of mining in ED but in reverse. The major difference is that I have a real sense of progress as I'm welding my ship together, something that mining in Elite never really gave me, despite both activities being "zen".
Though I guess I haven't totally quit Elite, seeing that I'm building a KRAIT in Space Engineers, and after that I want to build an Elite-like docking pad (minus the dumb record turntable). I may even build a full-blown orbital station someday!
Pretty much. It's a galaxy-wide game for the sake of it. ED works best in the bubble. The rest shows how early it still is with procedural content generation.