Precicely. ATR is meant for high notoriety players to be scared away. But since they have revb cascade lasers any hulltank will withstand a full swarm of these for minutes. Ofcourse, FDev assumed here that once the shields go down the fight is over. Just gonna assume here they never really used a hulltank before, nor even know what it is.
Shield Generator Attack: Attack is directly damaging shield generator
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Precicely. ATR is meant for high notoriety players to be scared away. But since they have revb cascade lasers any hulltank will withstand a full swarm of these for minutes. Ofcourse, FDev assumed here that once the shields go down the fight is over. Just gonna assume here they never really used a hulltank before, nor even know what it is.
Or possibly didn't want to just kill you all off immediately. You have a chance to get away. I dare say that it they want them could snuff any player out in less than a second.
Remember those InstaKill NPCs?
Many thanks for the referencing the original source, that info helps a lot.
Now, just to comment, bear in mind that perhaps not every functionality appears in the official documentation, don't you think so?
Maybe there are some subtle variations depending on the system, other than the ATR arrival time, or maybe there are some other un-tested scenarios that might result in ATRs appearing when -you- are being attacked.
I think I'm not the only one that has experienced this, but I'm double checking on my own to see if It has been just my imagination.
Ah, a man after my own heart - I hate wedding barges so much!
Shotgun weddings are so....emotional.
Lol!
Maybe this is where Elvis went to in the 20th century? He'd be good running them, with his blue suede ships...
Yes I think that this could be by design, to not to instant-kill.
Of course this reinforces the usability of the hull tanks in this kind of scenario, as already pointed out.
I get that, but the 3.0 C&P is not a new thing and me as most of other players already tested a lot of things regarding how it works in order to adapt to it.
Anyway, if you want to test ATR response without getting notoriety, destroy your target by ramming them (ganker tips)
I can easily tank and kill a swarm of ATRs wit ha hulltank. It's about as challenging as regular PvE. They are anti-shield-only NPCs with no mentionable threat to hulltanks. Any basic NPC with seekers and/or PAs are more of a threat to hulltanks than ATR vehicles.
Yeah but who goes hulltanking nowadays.
Besines I think they do a little more damage than a 'basic NPC', just my impressions.
Thanks for the tips, and well, we'll see
This is one of FDev's over-the-top responses to PvP. Not sure if it is only in high-security systems or not but it is ridiculous and another immersion-breaking sledgehammer of a change.
What is ATR? I don't know all the acronyms and shorthand of this game yet...at least forum wise. Same with RNG.
Oh man.. Rails that fired like MC's ? I remember that... horrible weekend.
Plenty of people, and many ships have room for decent shields and hull.
It's more of a response to the mass murder of civilian and authority NPCs to generate negative (and uncapped) BGS influence.
Sad I missed the super NPCs. I was bumbling out to the core in a stripped T6 while that was going down.
Revb cascade pulse lasers are prolly engineered (yes by NPCs) and hence do slightly more damage but still, nothing worth to be considered. People who run paper thin hulls are at fault because every ship should have a fallback around 1k hull min. That is sufficient to tank and kill ATR vehicles. More hull means more tank. And to answer your question: I do. I still run hulltanks.
I do like to hull tank too, I was meaning that destroying shields in one shot goes against a large % of builds out there, if not most of them.
That's because shields are way more powerful than hulls when it comes to hitpoints. Let alone the fact that hull modules only go up to class 5 says it all.