Maybe the new technology uses better algorithms that make better use of current hardware.
Like a good wine remains a good wine with a normal meal, but is even better if it is accompanied by better food.
Imagine saying we should be forcing upgrades in 2020, when the economy has been savaged by so many factors that it's almost the stuff of thriller novels.
Awesome to hear that I won’t run into you or your wet farts in Odyssey!
Awesome to hear that I won’t run into you or your wet farts in Odyssey!
Oh no, you have it all wrong. The ED community of fans who believe in the vision DB set back during the Kickstarter are excited for space legs.
While it is obvious that space legs introduce a lot of new gameplay mechanics, none of these should alter the experience of sitting in the chair of a cockpit or SRV. If the Odyssey DLC disables VR globally, i.e. even in cockpit/SRV mode, it will be a tough sell. Just saying.
Arf - Thank you... Even though you aren't bringing the (good) news we'd hoped for, I really appreciate the fact you are engaging with us and listening to us, and doing the digging to get the info to enable you to answer our questions, this is a really refreshing and completely positive change.
- meh. 
This all seems to hang on whether community managers have any autonomy over their professional actions. Was wicked Will Flanagan withholding information while cackling wildly, or has the unusual occurance of a paid DLC meant that Frontier have decided they better at least look like they are trying to engage once again?Arf - Thank you... Even though you aren't bringing the (good) news we'd hoped for, I really appreciate the fact you are engaging with us and listening to us, and doing the digging to get the info to enable you to answer our questions, this is a really refreshing and completely positive change.
And talking about me being somewhat outspoken, now its been mentioned..... @Bruce Garrido @Stephen Benedetti @Tim Smith - Y'all can / should learn a lot from Arf - we expect a lot more from our CM's than the odd post you do submit containing nothing more than deflections like "more info nearer launch" and almost total radio silence between patch notes.
- I'd like to think that the rest of your CM team are taking notes on how you are conducting yourself and by actively engaging with the community, you are winning the hearts and minds campaign, and as such are getting praised and thanked for bringing us (VR players) the "bad news". And I hope they intend to follow this shining example of active community management by "engaging with the community".
- If I may be as bold as to make a suggestion? (Who am I kidding, I "scrub up" by using autosol metal polish on my 69%Cu+30%Zn+1%Sn "Admiralty Brass" neck)
- You appear to be stepping into the role of intermediary between the VR segment of the community...
- You seem to be inferring that VR "not at launch" in this case actually means that not corp speak for "not happening buy we ain't got the minerals to admit that to you"
- Your credible enough that I believe you when you say you are working on the specifics, which makes me think you are actually discussing this with the developers / decision makers?
- We VR players have typed probably bordering a gigabyte on VR in Odyssey including some vitriol, some Laconic Satire, and some very well thought out proposals and lists of compromises we would and wouldn't accept - and we have a few "ring leaders" / "campaign organisers"
- All those points make me think that there would be mileage in bringing "one of us" into those conversations I deduce you are having internally?
- Maybe run a forum election for a VR rep - for example by a new instantly locked sticky thread in VR subforum explaining this thread is to elect a VR rep to represent the VR community in discussions with the devs to try and find a mutually acceptable and workable "middle ground"
- This would then have half a dozen "like this post to vote for Teatime / Golgot / Max Factor", one for each "candidate"
- I'm cool with the fact that I'm probably excluded from this hypothetical nomination process for being so outspoken / obnoxious
- Heres a tip for you, we are in this forum because we want to be won over, if we were just out to flame the game we'd take to steam and trash talk the game in a venue where you don't have an army of white knight moderators leaping to your defence & locking / deleting the more controversial threads.
- Also, you guys should note that Arf has, seemingly on his own, has made more of a positive impact in six weeks on than y'all combined in 6 months.
- If y'all had a hand in his meteoric rise in our estimations, you could do a lot worse than communicate that to us, the community you are employed to engage with.
- If Y'all have just been sitting on the sidelines, and think your job is to lob the odd hand grenade into the forum between patch notes and a stream or two a week, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your career choices? I hear Tescos are recruiting.
Probably a vital requirement for a product manager
Probably a vital requirement for a product manager
We don't know that is what's going to happen yet. No point in being annoyed about something that may or may not happen. Seems a bit pointless to me.Uh, OK.
I think you're wrong. I think, as shown by many voices in this thread, that plenty of folks are rather annoyed about probably losing VR from future iterations in order to add legs.
I'm kinda done with the back and forth with you though. I'll leave you to your visions.
I think you are both arguing over something which need not be an issue. ED came out on PC initially and I think it is shocking when developers gimp a high end pc because of low end consoles like the vanilla Xbox 1 or low end pcs barely capable of playing a game.
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