And yet, its still possible to get poop on my shoe, and if I do, I reserve the right to grouse about it.
Question for Open players who don't like PVP/ganking... help me understand
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And yet, its still possible to get poop on my shoe, and if I do, I reserve the right to grouse about it.
You need to read the whole thread Brrokk. The guy was complaining about the PvP community being mean because we banned him for clogging so he was trying to find another community that would accept him.
There nothing wrong with an "ew, that's gross" but a "stupid dog, you probably kill kittens and you should be banned from the dog park" is crossing the line. Or even suggesting that all the other dogs should stop pooping
Yeah that kinda throws a wrench into the whole analogy but touche.
I've ganked a few dozen CMDRs in the last week. The last one accepted my friend request, after talking about their goals (and why I gonk), I invited them to my FC and handed them 400m in credits to help their journey. Explain to me again how I'm driving people out of the game?
You evil bovine, think of all the immersion you've denied them! LMAO
Seriously though, can confirm: when Cow and I go a-gonking, we have a pretty high success rate of getting people to accept our friend requests, and this leads to all sorts of fun in-game shenanigans.
Sometimes we do 1v1 fights, sometimes he helps them out with money (as above) via trading commodities on his FC, or he uses his FC to jump them somewhere to gather materials, or one of us wings them in to just literally give them free money and materials as we turn in massacre missions, or we simply offer some genuine and sincere tips on how to improve their builds or whatever, or tactics on how to avoid ganks. We've done every single one of those things in the past few days alone.
Basically, we're having the kind of spontaneous and often co-operative experiences it sounds like many of the respondents in this thread are looking for. We're really, literally, just two chill dudes playing a video game and having emergent experiences with other players on a regular, near-nightly basis.
That frequently involve spaceship destruction, either of our own and/or other players' ships. But I mean... it's a videogame, right?
Not really,
Though the owner is the game dev I suppose so owne4 might be a bad word. It's really about the number of dog poops one has to deal with to enjoy the park with others. On my playtimes the poop is barely noticeable, however other times it seems almost unavoidable, especially over in Deciat. Also for some reason the poop only seems to want to stick to my hauler shoes and not the sportie combat ones...
So out of 12 interactions you had one positive one. With 11 chances to have driven someone from the game. I don't know what the odds are but it seems to me you have at least a chance to be driving people away, assuming there actually are people who quit games because they got ganked.
The main issue I have with this is that pure killing is just too easy in most cases. Why should they accept a friend request from someone who has just killed them? The majority (understandably) won’t. Why not make the gank more of a challenge by for example sniping a few internal modules or using smaller ships with less firepower. Get them to solve a riddle or else they die, Use your imagination!
Most gankers are just lazy.
Why should I solve a riddle if I simply can menu log?
^The cloggers make anything but ganking fruitless when it comes to pulling randos from supercruise.
Ok, so the “challenge” is to kill them before the menu log timer runs down?
There are two sides to this: they wouldn’t clog if they weren’t ganked. I don’t condone clogging of course.
Sometimes you just gotta clog even if you dont see anything.
Only way to be sure.
Reverse piracy is one of my favourites. I tend to do it in an unarmed sidewinder for maximum lulz when they flee before my terrifying power.
That’s lazy as well
If someone leaves a game just because they fell victim to a random opponent in the level 60 dungeon after having chosen the hardest possible difficulty level in the login window, then good riddance, maybe the game isn't for them after all.
Not really a high bar to clear there.
Now that I am on my moral high horse I beg to differ: clogging is the laziest out there, and is also against the rules of the game.
My point is that players should not justify the easy choice by assuming cynical behavior on the part of the opponent. It creates a negative cycle.