I hear open letters work quite well.
Frontier have anointed chosen ones again...
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The other English Apocalypse film being When the Wind Blows. If I still had emotions I'd be choking up at the end.
Scared the living bejebus out of me when I was a kid...
I disagree. Anyone who gets bribed with expensive goodies to stream a game has no valid opinion of said game in my eyes, regardless of whether they speak the truth or toe the company line. I'll watch the game itself for clues as to what it contains, but the streamer playing it may as well be muted ( and most likely will be ).
I saw an animation called 'A Short Vision' when I was younger from the mid 50s. Its like When the Wind Blows x 10.
Speaking of switching the Elite Dangerous stream back to its own channel... Any ideas why Frontier stopped streaming on the Elite Dangerous YouTube channel and is now only doing so on Twitch?
I noticed the VODs have gone up on the YouTube channel, but you guys used to host the streams there live too.
They might send you a burlap sack or two to aid your haulage...
I'll never forget the first watching of it - lured in by the visuals of Raymond Briggs thinking it'll be fun like Fungus the bogeyman, then essentially watching your grandparents deal with the after effects of a nuclear holocaust
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I suppose the question is whether you as a publicly traded company selling a PEGI 7 rated game want to be represented by / associated with a potty mouthed Youtuber whose content is focused on (not always objectively) criticizing your product and delivering that through ample use of cringeworthy, forced toilet humour. And looking through the comments section of a recent video it's just a circle jerk of negativity in there, so what exactly could be gained from including him in this initiative.If anything, i would really like to know if you sent the yamicks one
Unless FD believe he can be flipped
But even if that worked, he'd likely lose a large part of his audience for 'selling out'.
I suppose the question is whether you as a publicly traded company selling a PEGI 7 rated game want to be represented by / associated with a potty mouthed Youtuber whose content is focused on (not always objectively) criticizing your product and delivering that through ample use of cringeworthy, forced toilet humour. And looking through the comments section of a recent video it's just a circle jerk of negativity in there, so what exactly could be gained from including him in this initiative.
Unless FD believe he can be flipped
He's just done a (paid for) review for CCP's mobile version of EVE, and you should see the comments there...
He was completely up-front from the start that this was a paid review & he was trying to be nice. Although he did say he liked it anyway, regardless of the cash CCP threw his way.
If Yamiks isn't sold to FDev, I won't be disappointed. Yes he shouts and swears a lot, but at least he is honest unlike many Youtubers who come across as being something of FDev apologists these days.
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The beginning of that had this spoken piece, it was later used by a punk band called Conflict on one of their tracks. The very BBC sounding man says this:
"In an urban society, everything connects. Each person's needs are fed by the skills of many others. Our lives are woven together in a fabric. But the connections that make society strong also make it vulnerable."
It was supposed to be a sombre warning. The thing is, when you are against most things in society and that hits your 18yo ears, it sounds like he's giving you hints what to do. I still listen to that track.
Hi all,
I'm just going to stick my opinion in here (where it's not welcome
) and say that the phrase "content creator" is overused. I haven't read anything anyone else has posted, I'm just replying to what @Arthur Tolmie posted really.
There are many great content creators for ED, but I don't get the impression that this is what FDev are talking about, I feel they're talking more about streamers (I would be very happy to be corrected). The vast majority of streamers aren't content creators, they are just presenting content created by other people. Real content are things like the short stories which people present in video, audio or text; creations like the various ED databases on the web; artists creating pictures inspired by ED. That's real new content which complements ED, not yet-another-streamer.
Mini-rant over, I really hope that FDev are working with real content creators and not just a bunch of influencers.
Cheers
I'm just going to stick my opinion in here (where it's not welcome
) and say that the phrase "content creator" is overused. I haven't read anything anyone else has posted, I'm just replying to what @Arthur Tolmie posted really.There are many great content creators for ED, but I don't get the impression that this is what FDev are talking about, I feel they're talking more about streamers (I would be very happy to be corrected). The vast majority of streamers aren't content creators, they are just presenting content created by other people. Real content are things like the short stories which people present in video, audio or text; creations like the various ED databases on the web; artists creating pictures inspired by ED. That's real new content which complements ED, not yet-another-streamer.
Mini-rant over, I really hope that FDev are working with real content creators and not just a bunch of influencers.
Cheers
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He may well be honest when it comes to paid "reviews" (calling them advertisements would probably be fairer) but whenever I watch his content it feels like faux-outrage to me that is a cynical way to generate clicks. So based on that impression, and now also on the fact he's open to blatant PR exercises such as the above actually diminishes his credibility in my book even furtherHe's just done a (paid for) review for CCP's mobile version of EVE, and you should see the comments there...
He was completely up-front from the start that this was a paid review & he was trying to be nice. Although he did say he liked it anyway, regardless of the cash CCP threw his way.
If Yamiks isn't sold to FDev, I won't be disappointed. Yes he shouts and swears a lot, but at least he is honest unlike many Youtubers who come across as being something of FDev apologists these days.
.Though I don't really follow any Youtubers religiously anyways - there are a bunch that I trust when it comes to game reviews, others simply provide entertaining content to consume, and out of the Elite ones I still prefer OA when it comes to game related news - he does criticise the game/FD when it's justified but just does it in a much more polite way - maybe too polite for some to notice - and I usually make up my own mind up anyways with regards to Elite's current and future direction based on what's published (or not) by FDev themselves.
Elite content creators are useful for summarising updates especially when you haven't been up to date with the game for a while, but since I'm still playing and following news on an almost daily basis I don't really rely on them all that much these days. YMMV of course.
He may well be honest when it comes to paid "reviews" (calling them advertisements would probably be fairer) but whenever I watch his content it feels like faux-outrage to me that is a cynical way to generate clicks. So based on that impression, and now also on the fact he's open to blatant PR exercises such as the above actually diminishes his credibility in my book even further
I'm not exactly holding Yamiks up as a paragon of virtue or even someone you should listen to or take seriously. Nevertheless, his videos are entertaining - at least to me.
Given the choice, I would prefer to hear his views on Odyssey and E: D generally without a freebie or cash from FDev coming his way which would temper it & make me question the validity of it. If FDev's goal is to hoover up all the main E: D Youtubers, then to me that says, let's not bother watching any of them.
Which would be a shame from my point of view, because I often find them entertaining. Same with OA... but there's a reason why I no longer contribute to his Patreon.
I don't play E: D at all any more, so I'm only casually "keeping up" through this forum and the various Youtubers on the off chance that Frontier actually do something good.
Like you, I'm hardly religious about it. I'll get Odyssey anyway (x2) because of the LEPs I've got, and I'll make my own mind up when the time comes.
As far as game reviews go, there's maybe only one or two that I would seek out. But I would actively avoid any that I know have been "bought". Because that's not even entertainment.
I read your post in the voice of the announcer which makes it doubly scary.
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Different tastes then which is perfectly fine of courseI'm not exactly holding Yamiks up as a paragon of virtue or even someone you should listen to or take seriously. Nevertheless, his videos are entertaining - at least to me.
Given the choice, I would prefer to hear his views on Odyssey and E: D generally without a freebie or cash from FDev coming his way which would temper it & make me question the validity of it. If FDev's goal is to hoover up all the main E: D Youtubers, then to me that says, let's not bother watching any of them.
Which would be a shame from my point of view, because I often find them entertaining. Same with OA... but there's a reason why I no longer contribute to his Patreon.
I don't play E: D at all any more, so I'm only casually "keeping up" through this forum and the various Youtubers on the off chance that Frontier actually do something good.
Like you, I'm hardly religious about it. I'll get Odyssey anyway (x2) because of the LEPs I've got, and I'll make my own mind up when the time comes.
As far as game reviews go, there's maybe only one or two that I would seek out. But I would actively avoid any that I know have been "bought". Because that's not even entertainment.
From a narrow Elite perspective, neither of the content creators will convince me to, or prevent me from buying Odyssey - I will wait until FDev have shared all the details but given this is my most-played game of all time it's safe to say I will buy it regardless as it's new content that is mostly aligned with what I consider fun in a game (based on what we've seen so far, which isn't much to be fair). The only reason not to buy it would be if they charged a ridiculous price for it or it would be so utterly broken that it affects the main game also. In which case I would either wait for a sale or until things get fixed.
I do see some value in "bought" Youtuber videos by the way - simply if I want to see game features in action, i.e. not whether they're good but how they work in practice and how it all looks and sounds which is difficult to judge based on screenshots or trailers.
As for proper reviews, I tend to watch at least half a dozen different channels before I make up my mind - having been burned by biased professional reviews in the past made me quite careful like that, and so far I've steered clear of proper duds. We've never had it so good when it comes to researching things; just need to be able to weed out (and ignore) the shills really.
I suppose the question is whether you as a publicly traded company selling a PEGI 7 rated game want to be represented by / associated with a potty mouthed Youtuber whose content is focused on (not always objectively) criticizing your product and delivering that through ample use of cringeworthy, forced toilet humour. And looking through the comments section of a recent video it's just a circle jerk of negativity in there, so what exactly could be gained from including him in this initiative.
Unless FD believe he can be flipped
In yamicks latest video, his voice almost sounds like obsidian ant. I bet he got one.