Delay? Covid? You no nothing.

[Urbanski101]

The thing I find so bizarre about that whole situation is they are still taking in giant wads of cash in the KS, hundreds of millions more than FDev, yet... Still no release.

If it wasn't to create a reasonably release-ready build then what was it for?

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I've watched SC from afar with a mixture of fascination, horror, amusement and disbelief. As far as I can tell it's a glorified ponzi scheme...with a space game loosely attached.

It also appears to be some sort of cult, it bears all of the hallmarks. Followers blindly handing over great wads of cash for very little return, promises of gaming nirvana, super aggressive defence of their cult from members who appear in all other respects to be normal, intelligent humans.

There are reports of cult members handing over £50,000+ to RSI for ships that don't exist, virtual land on planets that don't exist. This isn't an investment, they are not share holders, they will get nothing back for that money other than the aforementioned ships and land (if they ever get built)...approaching 9 years of dev time the game is still considered to be in the early alpha stage?

As the article states rather than people walking away because they've had enough funding appears to be accelerating. One thing is for sure, it's a masterful piece of marketing / brainwashing. Stand aside Rev. Mooney, L Ron Hubbard...Chris Roberts can show you how it's done.

 

[M00ka]

I've watched SC from afar with a mixture of fascination, horror, amusement and disbelief. As far as I can tell it's a glorified ponzi scheme...with a space game loosely attached.

It also appears to be some sort of cult, it bears all of the hallmarks. Followers blindly handing over great wads of cash for very little return, promises of gaming nirvana, super aggressive defence of their cult from members who appear in all other respects to be normal, intelligent humans.

There are reports of cult members handing over £50,000+ to RSI for ships that don't exist, virtual land on planets that don't exist. This isn't an investment, they are not share holders, they will get nothing back for that money other than the aforementioned ships and land (if they ever get built)...approaching 9 years of dev time the game is still considered to be in the early alpha stage?

As the article states rather than people walking away because they've had enough funding appears to be accelerating. One thing is for sure, it's a masterful piece of marketing / brainwashing. Stand aside Rev. Mooney, L Ron Hubbard...Chris Roberts can show you how it's done.

Yep, if you look at it holistically, there is no incentive for RSI to finish the game. Whilst they still have gullible fans willing to pay more than the value of a new car for what is basically a jpeg then why would they complete the game. For starters they might have to actually produce those ships they have sold, create those planets people have purchased plots of land on, nah that would never happen lol

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

So... I ... am .. something then?

Got it. I think.

Calm down, René. Nothing to get worked over.

 

[LeoBartlet]

Yep, if you look at it holistically, there is no incentive for RSI to finish the game. Whilst they still have gullible fans willing to pay more than the value of a new car for what is basically a jpeg then why would they complete the game. For starters they might have to actually produce those ships they have sold, create those planets people have purchased plots of land on, nah that would never happen lol

They appear to have taken inspiration from Rockstar games who've been milking the GTAV whale since 2013 with multiple console versions and PC remasters.

Anyone remember when they said that there would be future single player DLC and that was ditched when they realised whales will buy masses of shark cards.

 

[GloatingSwine]

Y'all need to start reading Berserk.

That'll learn you some patience waiting for things.

 

[VR Jay Le Chardon]

I'll take a cut of the winnings for feeding you all 4 at once...

Scotland not having any issues with the new COVID variant yet?

Cheers for asking mate, Dumfrieshire, which initially escaped the worst of the first wave of COVID is now riddled with the new UK variant, the central belt (~Glasgow <--> ~Edinburgh) is just a mess with COVID, of original and UK variants, don't think we have any of the more exotic (South African or Brazilian) variant up here, by the time you get as far north as I live, the COVID situation is a lot less grim...

By contrast, looking at the same cases per 100k population stats for London:

...which shows most buroughs are recording between 800 & 1200 cases per 100 population whereas a Scottish hotspot is between 200 & 400, with most of the country being below 200 cases per 100k population. It is a totally different kettle of fish up here in Jocklandshire, but our restrictons have been stricter and in force for longer than those applied to Englandshire.

 

[Rat Catcher]

Cheers for asking mate, Dumfrieshire, which initially escaped the worst of the first wave of COVID is now riddled with the new UK variant, the central belt (~Glasgow <--> ~Edinburgh) is just a mess with COVID, of original and UK variants, don't think we have any of the more exotic (South African or Brazilian) variant up here, by the time you get as far north as I live, the COVID situation is a lot less grim...
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Not so good...
I do pay attention to the news, particularly the local one, but the rest of the UK doesn't get the same level of detail (or I miss it!).

Is Scotland part of the mass inoculation programme too?

 

[VR Jay Le Chardon]

Alright mate - I've updated that post with some English stats to compare against the Scottish ones, we are actually in a better position in terms of overall cases and infection rates than England is. The average London bourough was recording between 800 & 1200 cases per 100,000 population, whereas in scotland the average is <200, with our wort affected areas being between 200 & 400 cases per 100,000 population.

 

[Stealthie]

I’ve seen some smart people, Who like to profess how covid could not have affected production. And what is the goal here?
Is disproving this going to somehow make things better? Make Fdev apologies and speed up
Production? Or that they hurt you and you ‘must’ hurt them back?
Oh clever you for pointing out that the pandemic isn’t the one an only cause. Do you want a pat on the back?

It’s arrogant and callous to assume you know better than an active pandemic, especially when the UK is exhibiting a mutation of C19 and its cost the lives and livelihoods of many.

I’m happy to hear that you appear to know of the health status of the staff and their friends and family are in great physical, Psychological and economic states.

Even in your experience that work can continue,
In my experience has been the reverse when irreplaceable workers have to take time off to take care of their nearest or temps coming in to replace the replaceable juniors but the onboarding and getting up to speed takes weeks all the same.

For example a few weeks delay to put out a alpha build for the PC is not a problem,
But enlighten me, how is the vetting process on the consoles these days for newly submitted builds, days? Weeks?
Or is it still roughly 3 Months?

Sorry for the aggressive stance against community members, but seriously what do you wish to achieve in either case of the pandemic being the whole truth or not?

Fdev can delay as much as they like. I’ve paid years ago, and I’ve waited my whole life for the full scale of from space to walking on foot experience since the c64 era, I can wait some more.

It’s upsetting, sure, but rest assured it’s for everyone’s best.

If you still feel grumpy, go wait for star citizen instead!

The problem with topics like this is the hypocrisy implicit in angrily complaining about people who are angrily complaining about something.

 

[thistle]

Not so good...
I do pay attention to the news, particularly the local one, but the rest of the UK doesn't get the same level of detail (or I miss it!).

Is Scotland part of the mass inoculation programme too?

Yes, although the delivery of it is devolved to the Scottish government, similarly the Northern Irish government and Welsh government.

 

[TruthSeeker]

I've watched SC from afar with a mixture of fascination, horror, amusement and disbelief. As far as I can tell it's a glorified ponzi scheme...with a space game loosely attached.

It also appears to be some sort of cult, it bears all of the hallmarks. Followers blindly handing over great wads of cash for very little return, promises of gaming nirvana, super aggressive defence of their cult from members who appear in all other respects to be normal, intelligent humans.

There are reports of cult members handing over £50,000+ to RSI for ships that don't exist, virtual land on planets that don't exist. This isn't an investment, they are not share holders, they will get nothing back for that money other than the aforementioned ships and land (if they ever get built)...approaching 9 years of dev time the game is still considered to be in the early alpha stage?

As the article states rather than people walking away because they've had enough funding appears to be accelerating. One thing is for sure, it's a masterful piece of marketing / brainwashing. Stand aside Rev. Mooney, L Ron Hubbard...Chris Roberts can show you how it's done.

 

[Rat Catcher]

... Looks at Chinese Genshin Impact game, it made 300 000 000$ in just one month of world release.

But is a released game...

People have money to spend, so you either create a scheme where they can spend it on your product, or they will spend on someone else game.

When do you, personally, believe SC will leave alpha and become a released product?

It looks interesting - if it is likely to become a completed project in the future I'll happily throw £50 at it - but I have no intention of 'buying in' to something that appears to have stalled in its production.

 

[VR Jay Le Chardon]

I found this interactive map showing the entire mainland uk covid stats:

Official UK Coronavirus Dashboard

GOV.UK Coronavirus dashboard

coronavirus.data.gov.uk

But star citizen does look good, however, I think it's a long way off of being released, which is a pity, because it's pretty obvious that it will be awesome when done. I am already bought into it having "pledged" something like fifty squidilies back in 2015, which bought me a package with Squadron 42 + Star Citizen with a smallish fighter called the origin 300i. I played the alpha a couple of times, but having had a quick play it was far too buggy for my liking, things like unmanned spaceships clipping/bouncing across the landing pad like a mobile phone/pager vibrating across a desk in the nineties render it unplayable to me at least as I cannot see past such glaring bugs.

 

[here_it_comes]

Eh . . . my roomie who, in simple terms, develops the machine learning software which designs your CPUs using paths that are so small that light itself is too low res to resolve, has been working remotely this whole time and it hasn't slowed any of the multiple teams he's worked in down at all. In fact, they have found they can keep their previous pace and have more free time. They are actually hoping remote working becomes the norm for them.

Not that I care about EDO getting delayed, but the work FD does is far simpler than what they do. Unless they are experiencing a massive infection inflation among FD employees, which is not realistic in the slightest given public numbers, covid would only slow them down if their employees are poor at focusing and easily self-distracted by alt+tab.

Again, I don't care about EDO getting delayed, but covid is a pretty poor excuse for slowed development. Then again, I also don't care about the reasons they give either. It's vidya people, they aren't delaying deliveries to grocery stores or, God forbid, liquor stores. I still have ships to tweak and criminals to smoke in the meantime. o7