General / Off-Topic The Covid vaccine must be mandatory ?

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I`m not sure whats being driven at here - Modi`s government is dysfunctional at best and certainly veers towards authoritarianism. Of course they have been guilty of downplaying things, that's how authoritarian governments work. Look at the Trump administration.
What he wants to claim is that all covid reporting is suspect because "Look!! The Indian government are misreporting."

It's the typical anti-vaxx misinformation nonsense.
 
Do you live in a large urban center ?

You seem to live in terror and permanent psychosis. Try to think of something else from time to time ?

For my part, I live relaxed in relation to the pandemic.

It is true that I am very careful (mask and barrier gestures) and that I do not live in a very populated place.



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Patrick you utterly lack the ability to feel empathy for the victims of covid as you've already explained to us. It's empathy (and optimism) that makes me able to deliberately put myself at risk from the virus most days at work. I treat it like the sniper threat when I was a soldier a hidden threat you need to constantly have at the back of your mind to keep yourself and others safe, but not something that stops you doing anything other than take daft risks. Again you wouldn't understand that as it's not an entirely self centered thing.

That's why you misunderstand my posts as you just can't see this from anyone else's perspective due to your lack of empathy. I understand yours, you have an abject and unthinking terror of vaccines following a bad reaction to insect venom treatment which triggers your flight or flight reaction whenever you read or talk to anyone who's pro-vaccine. You are hostile to the victims of the virus because they might present a threat of infection to you and in a sideways way a threat that you might need to be vaccinated. You are not actually anti-British despite posting that way you are just scared because the UK is pro-vaccine and that makes you irrationally hostile and prone to believing conspiracy theories whilst rejecting obvious facts.

I'm sorry you are struggling to cope with whats happening 🤷‍♀️.
 
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Remember when doctors was used to push cigarettes? People need to think for themselves, these vaccines are not properly tested and we see now how some European countries withdraw them from the market, you want to play Russian roulette with your life? When that crap is injected there is no escape at all.

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Remember when doctors was used to push cigarettes?
Because Big Tobacco means Big Pharma right?
People need to think for themselves, these vaccines are not properly tested and we see now how some European countries withdraw them from the market
People making choices to get the vaccine are now the unthinking masses acting like sheep?
you want to play Russian roulette with your life?
Why is not getting the vaccine and therefore being more likely to contract Covid not playing russian roulette with yours and other people's lives?

Damn Facebook anti-vaxxers really are the worst.
 
Remember when doctors was used to push cigarettes? People need to think for themselves, these vaccines are not properly tested and we see now how some European countries withdraw them from the market, you want to play Russian roulette with your life? When that crap is injected there is no escape at all.
Do you test all the food and drink you ingest? Or do you put an element of trust in the manufacturers and distributors of those products?

Assuming you do, why do you chose to apportion the trust you have in the way that you do?
 
Remember when doctors was used to push cigarettes? People need to think for themselves, these vaccines are not properly tested and we see now how some European countries withdraw them from the market, you want to play Russian roulette with your life? When that crap is injected there is no escape at all.

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It wasn't doctors pushing them it was scammers pretending to have doctors advice pushing them or paying unscrupulous doctors to push it for them. Exactly the way anti-vax conspiracy scammers like Alex Jones or Andrew Wakefield operate.
 
Do you test all the food and drink you ingest? Or do you put an element of trust in the manufacturers and distributors of those products?

Assuming you do, why do you chose to apportion the trust you have in the way that you do?
I trust no one, and I know that if the food is industrialized in any shape or form it’s full of chemicals, so we grow all our food or most of it and yes we do spend a lot of time investigating where our food is produced and how, and my wife read everything written on the label if we don’t know the product. That doesn’t mean I can’t eat a burger at Wendy’s if I’m on the move. Freedom is choice, and I live in a free state, you can wear a mask or not, you can get vaccinated or not, it’s up to you.


It wasn't doctors pushing them it was scammers pretending to have doctors advice pushing them or paying unscrupulous doctors to push it for them. Exactly the way anti-vax conspiracy scammers like Alex Jones or Andrew Wakefield operate.
They were willingly participating and was rewarded with money, don’t tell me it could not happen again with something else like, oh I don’t know.....
 
I trust no one, and I know that if the food is industrialized in any shape or form it’s full of chemicals, so we grow all our food or most of it and yes we do spend a lot of time investigating where our food is produced and how, and my wife read everything written on the label if we don’t know the product. That doesn’t mean I can’t eat a burger at Wendy’s if I’m on the move. Freedom is choice, and I live in a free state, you can wear a mask or not, you can get vaccinated or not, it’s up to you.
You trust lots of people and you dont event realise it. Pretty much every thing you do in your daily life requires you to trust that someone else has done something. I bet you don't test bridges before driving over them. I bet you dont test the gas you put in your car. I bet you dont test the food you purchase to ensure all the ingredients are actually on the label.

So, if you will accept that you do actually do this, the question is, what logic determines for you that this particular substance is suspicious when other substances are trusted?
 
They were willingly participating and was rewarded with money, don’t tell me it could not happen again with something else like, oh I don’t know.....
It did happen again with covid scammers pushing various miracle cures like bleach to their gullible followers as alternatives to genuine proven medical treatments like the various vaccines. Bleach has a place in the fight against covid, but it's via a mop and bucket not drinking it.

The same people also push bonkers narratives like the vaccine has microchips or Satans DNA in it, again they only do this to sell rubbish to idiots. The more ludicrous the claims the more idiots they attract and the more money they make, just look at Qanon for a recent example of weaponized lunacy.
 
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If I was scared I wouldn’t work in ebola infested areas as I did many years ago, you wanna talk about a deadly virus?

Another great example - what's your determination which allows you to work in a high-risk area such as that? Does that decision process also apply when deciding whether to take a medicine?

I`m trying to get to an understanding of how you assess personal risk and if that is something that is repeatable in your daily life.
 
You trust lots of people and you dont event realise it. Pretty much every thing you do in your daily life requires you to trust that someone else has done something. I bet you don't test bridges before driving over them. I bet you dont test the gas you put in your car. I bet you dont test the food you purchase to ensure all the ingredients are actually on the label.

So, if you will accept that you do actually do this, the question is, what logic determines for you that this particular substance is suspicious when other substances are trusted?
Is you’re being silly, pulling out the straw man isn’t really helping, so please continue I got popcorn 🍿


It did happen again with covid scammers pushing various miracle cures like bleach to their gullible followers as alternatives to genuine proven medical treatments like the various vaccines. Bleach has a place in the fight against covid, but it's via a mope and bucket not drinking it.

The same people also push bonkers narratives like the vaccine has microchips or Satans DNA in it, again they only do this to sell rubbish to idiots. The more ludicrous the claims the more idiots they attract and the more money they make, just look at Qanon for a recent example of weaponized lunacy.
Well as I said trust no one, same applies here in all these cases.
 
Is you’re being silly, pulling out the straw man isn’t really helping, so please continue I got popcorn 🍿

Nope I`m being deadly serious. How people make a determination of risk generally is pretty fascinating, more so in a global pandemic. Are you willing to share?
 
Another great example - what's your determination which allows you to work in a high-risk area such as that? Does that decision process also apply when deciding whether to take a medicine?

I`m trying to get to an understanding of how you assess personal risk and if that is something that is repeatable in your daily life.
It was my work to be there, I could do my work or roll into fetus position an cry at my hotel room or go home, well I chose to stay an do my work, keyword here in case you don’t get it.... choice.
 
Well as I said trust no one, same applies here in all these cases.
But it doesn't, does it? You have already admitted that on occasion you purchase food and you carefully check the labels. Given that you have stated that you trust no one, how have you determined for yourself that the labels are telling the truth and that the food is safe to eat? How have you determined that the ingredients have not been contaminated?

I`m not taking the p@ss, this is a deadly serious question.
It was my work to be there, I could do my work or roll into fetus position an cry at my hotel room or go home, well I chose to stay an do my work, keyword here in case you don’t get it.... choice.
So what determined that the value of the work (money, commitment to a cause etc) was more important than the personal risk to you, and how does that assessment translate when thinking about choosing whether to take a medicine which may help you and also other people?

Or do you use a completely different method to decide that a particular medicine isn't safe to take?
 
It was my work to be there, I could do my work or roll into fetus position an cry at my hotel room or go home, well I chose to stay an do my work, keyword here in case you don’t get it.... choice.
Did you have to get any vaccinations to go there do that work ?.
 
But it doesn't, does it? You have already admitted that on occasion you purchase food and you carefully check the labels. Given that you have stated that you trust no one, how have you determined for yourself that the labels are telling the truth and that the food is safe to eat? How have you determined that the ingredients have not been contaminated?

I`m not taking the p@ss, this is a deadly serious question.

So what determined that the value of the work (money, commitment to a cause etc) was more important than the personal risk to you, and how does that assessment translate when thinking about choosing whether to take a medicine which may help you and also other people?

Or do you use a completely different method to decide that a particular medicine isn't safe to take?
Son, I was in the military for a long time, if I was supposed to die the grim reaper would have taken me long ago, everything from you’re born is a risk how you want to spend your time while you’re here is up to you.
Those will be my last words regarding this as we will get nowhere. cheerio!
 
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