General / Off-Topic The Covid vaccine must be mandatory ?

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I don't need to read any of the P.R. you have to quote. The maths is simple: There hasnot been enough time, even since the start of the Covid 19 pandemic, to complete the established and recognised phase 3 testing procedures, of antiviral vaccines. The approval for 'emergency use' is all we have in the U.K. and most of the world and phase 3 is still ongoing. Stop treating me like I am some kind of anti-vaxer muppet.
You need to read up on how it was actually tested.
Again. You are just spouting to attempt to make me look like an anti-vaxer/conspiracy idiot.
I'm telling you the truth 🤷‍♀️.
 
You need to read up on how it was actually tested.

I'm telling you the truth 🤷‍♀️.
Oh, I see now, they used a time machine, to go back a few years. Phase 3 testing takes years.

Your own version of what is the truth. I have said it before and you have agreed, with the statement: There can be and often is, a great deal of difference between the currently accepted true and the facts.
 
Oh, I see now, they used a time machine, to go back a few years. Phase 3 testing takes years.

Your own version of what is the truth. I have said it before and you have agreed, with the statement: There can be and often is, a great deal of difference between the currently accepted true and the facts.
You need to read up on how it was tested. Everything you think you know about it is wrong.
 
You need to read up on how it was tested. Everything you think you know about it is wrong.
Now there is a blanket statement, that simply proves how superior, you believe you are.

"Everything you think you know about it is wrong." You don't not have a clue, what I know, or think I know, but it is irreverential to, because according to you; I am wrong.

We had a spat a couple of weeks ago, about you not accepting, the fact: That the actions of a few stupid and callous men, has cost the lives of thousands. Today, the bodies piling up thing, has nothing to do with me, but I think. Makes my point.

I am not sure of your motives, to continually try and brand me as a conspiracy nut, or anti-vaxer. Maybe it is because I can degree with you, using valid and constructive facts. I don't know, don't care. I have better things to do. Now you can do your woman shrug thing, that basically means, you do not have a credible, counter argument.

Phase 3 testing takes years, just because they had multiple testing systems, running parallel, does not and can not shirk time. Maybe I should put it another way. If all the test phases had been done and the vaccines in question, had passed all of the requirements: Why did/do they need the emergency approval, to be rolled out to the public? Constructive answer, would be nice.
 
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Now there is a blanket statement, that simply proves how superior, you believe you are.

"Everything you think you know about it is wrong." You don't not have a clue, what I know, or think I know, but it is irreverential to, because according to you; I am wrong.

We had a spat a couple of weeks ago, about you not accepting, the fact: That the actions of a few stupid and callous men, has cost the lives of thousands. Today, the bodies piling up thing, has nothing to do with me, but I think. Makes my point.

I am not sure of your motives, to continually try and brand me and a conspiracy nut, or anti-vaxer. Maybe it is because I can degree with you, using valid and constructive facts. I don't know, don't care. I have better things to do. Now you can do your woman shrug thing, that basically means, you do not have a credible, counter argument.

Phase 3 testing takes years, just because they had multiple testing systems, running parallel, does not and can not shirk time. Maybe I should put it another way. If all the test phases had been done and the vaccines in question, had passed all of the requirements: Why did/do they need the emergency approval, to be rolled out to the public? Constructive answer, would be nice.
Arry if you don't want me to think you are a conspiracy theorist best to avoid this sort of thing :

I don't need to read any of the P.R. you have to quote.

If you've already decided to dismiss anything I have to say as "PR" me posting verifiable facts at you will actually make you less likely to believe them. Accusing me of being involved in a conspiracy whilst complaining I've labelled you a conspiracy theorist is a little daft.
 
Arry if you don't want me to think you are a conspiracy theorist best to avoid this sort of thing :



If you've already decided to dismiss anything I have to say as "PR" me posting verifiable facts at you will actually make you less likely to believe them. Accusing me of being involved in a conspiracy whilst complaining I've labelled you a conspiracy theorist is a little daft.
"Accusing me of being involved in a conspiracy " Where? When? You stated that during the 'callous men' debate and then, I also, found it confusing. I have never accused you of being involved in any conspiracies. If I have, quote me.

The P.R. I am dismissing, is not yours. It is the P.R. you are quoting, from sources that require P.R. and you wish me to, also believe, as the facts. Again: You are misquoting me and making blanket statements. I do not, dismiss 'anything you say', just that which really should be dismissed. To be polite, of course.
 
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I haven't removed anything.
This is a fact. Not sure why the whole post, did not get quoted. So I stand corrected. See how easy that is.

Err... to be pedantic: Still waiting for your explanation, of the need for 'emergency use approval'. If, as you continue to insist, that all of the testing and required procedures for public distribution of said vaccine, have been passed.
 
Potatoes contain solanine the same toxin you get in deadly nightshade.
I have never had thrombosis by eating potatoes.

Although I eat very little potatoes, because I do not want to be overweight or obese. A way for me to protect myself from the virus, as I have no intention of vaccinating myself for the next 3 years, and as the vaccination is not compulsory and the pandemic is rather not very aggressive, compared for example to the 8 million deaths each year by the pollution.

So not too many potatoes is a very good barrier gesture. 🙂

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The United States has decided to get rid of 60 million doses of AZ by transferring them to third countries, as they have other brands to ensure vaccination of the entire US population.

Like Israel ...

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I have never had thrombosis by eating potatoes.

Although I eat very little potatoes, because I do not want to be overweight or obese. A way for me to protect myself from the virus, as I have no intention of vaccinating myself for the next 3 years, and as the vaccination is not compulsory and the pandemic is rather not very aggressive, compared for example to the 8 million deaths each year by the pollution.

So not too many potatoes is a very good barrier gesture. 🙂

😷
Whatever you do don't check out the stats on choking, food is far more dangerous than vaccines.
 
I am just getting sick of the condemnation towards anyone, having doubts, or raising valid questions. Here they are being ridiculed, condemned and branded as anti-vaxers and idiots, by those, who will not take maybe, as an answer.
For my part, as vaccination is not compulsory, I say very clearly that I do not take the vaccine because there is not enough hindsight on the products offered.

What people think, I don't care.

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The United States has decided to get rid of 60 million doses of AZ by transferring them to third countries, as they have other brands to ensure vaccination of the entire US population.

Like Israel ...

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"US President Joe Biden said on Tuesday he is intent on sending coronavirus vaccines to India as that country grapples with an unprecedented surge in cases. The announcement comes after the US said it would release its stockpile of 60 million AstraZeneca vaccines for international distribution following safety inspections by health authorities."


Good for him and them.
 
I disagree with this "both sides" generalization of what is happening in this thread.
One side is arguing from a more factual, common sense standpoint. The other is the from a feeling based, anti-factual position.
Anti-vaxx, by it's very nature, is the opposite of common sense and facts. It is all about mistrust and feelings.
I don’t think there are antivaxxers here on the forums.

Rather, it is the fruit of the imagination of provaxxers.

For my part, reading all the posts in the threads devoted to Covid, I have never seen an antivaxxer Cmdr.

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For my part, as vaccination is not compulsory, I say very clearly that I do not take the vaccine because there is not enough hindsight on the products offered.

What people think, I don't care.

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Personally, I think: That you never will, willingly take any of the vaccines, on offer. After all, you could get Sepsis, from bad needle usage!

I explained your position, a while ago. Fear & Hope, do interesting things, to the human brain. No worries.
 
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