Discussion What is the most efficient way to crowdsource the 3D system coordinates

[RedWizzard]

I'll try to get it cleaned up and released, although I might not be able to get it out until after the weekend. Maybe my description will at least spark some ideas that others can use

On a related note, I noticed that there is a port of lmfit to java script. Which might be useful if someone is wanting to port some of my logic to a web form or to some of the javascript-based tools. I have no desire to do anything with javascript though

I'm keen to do a javascript port but my time is quite limited now and I want to spend it playing at the moment

I will try to get an updated systems.json done in the next few days. My current plan is to continue to use Sol-centered coordinates. Any reference stars that have moved will be updated and any distance data to those stars will be deleted. All derived stars will be marked as unverified until they've been checked. I don't intend to keep removed stars in the data but I will keep stars outside the beta 3 sausage in. I need to have a look at Harbinger's update version too.

 

[Little Angel]

Nice! I have also been working on something with unity3d...but nothing to show really yet. (basically trying to make some sort of logbook app)

Thanks for the compliment!

If you need any help with Unity, let me know - whether ED related or not. Always happy to lend a hand.

I'm eager to try out a larger data set - a B3 data set, but even tho' I've back read quite a ways, I'm still completely mystified about what's going on with the current state of the star data!

I guess I'll sit tight and wait for the dust to settle.

There seem to be a couple CSV lists with around 700+ stars in the thread.

I'll probably grab one at random that I can use to test with, as it's about double the current B2 list.

 

[RedWizzard]

There seem to be a couple CSV lists with around 700+ stars in the thread.

I'll probably grab one at random that I can use to test with, as it's about double the current B2 list.

Not sure what beta 2 list you're looking at. The current beta 2 list is 572 systems IIRC, plus a dozen or so more out of the beta 2 pill. The beta 3 reference list is only about 30% larger than that.

 

[wolverine2710]

I Pm-ed Michael Brookes to double check about the partial list he has given us. As in does it give the same info as the SB2 list.

Michael Brookes: Yes this is a list of systems that have economies.

 

[wolverine2710]

@RedWizzard. Just downloaded the file in TOR format created by Harbinger, post #988. It shows 767 systems. Twelve outside the pill. Hence according to that list we have indeed 755 systems with economies. 755/2406=0,31. Hence we now know that ONLY approx 31% of systems in the current bubble/pill/sausage have an economie - I interpret that as having a station/platform in it, hopefully this time I got it right. Hence 69% is without one. Lots of space to explore. Harbinger: GREAT WORK, thanks.

RW. For me and perhaps others The One Reference (TOR) is what is in your git repository, file systems.json. That way we are sure we have the latest version. Frpm that an official TD CSV can be created. Would it be possible for you to double check Harbingers list and change the systems.json in your repository. The list actually looks pretty good.

 

[TunaMage]

Hi, I've done some more playing around with Harbinger's data posted a page or two back, to see a bit better how B2 and B3 data compare. I see from some other posts that rounding from the galactic centric to Sol centric may need some work, but at the moment I'm just looking at the bigger picture.

There are a few things to consider:

1. The following systems given for B3 (Converted to Sol Centric), match our previously established B2 coordinates

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10 Canum Venaticorum,-9.375,55.4375,-7
21 Draco,-60.03125,45.65625,8.09375
26 Draconis,-39,24.90625,-0.65625
35 Draconis,-85.125,51.75,-28.375
36 Ursae Majoris,-11.125,32.9375,-23
37 Xi Bootis,-4.21875,19.09375,9.8125
41 Gamma Serpentis,-12.125,26,22.875
44 chi Draconis,-22.5625,12.375,-5.40625
47 Cassiopeiae,-83.03125,28.5625,-63.1875
47 Ursae Majoris,-1.4375,41.1875,-20.09375
61 Ursae Majoris,0.5625,30.09375,-8.6875
Acihaut,-18.5,25.28125,-4
Aganippe,-11.5625,43.8125,11.625
Alrai,-38.71875,12.3125,-21.625
Anemoi,-61.375,22.25,1.5625
Ao Qin,-62.90625,46.78125,1.53125
Ao Shun,-75.3125,22.59375,1.09375
Arcturus,-3.53125,34.15625,12.96875
Asellus Primus,-23.9375,40.875,-1.34375
Aulin,-19.6875,32.6875,4.75
Aulis,-16.46875,44.1875,-11.4375
Balmus,-89,9.375,-52.0625
BD+47 2112,-14.78125,33.46875,-0.40625
BD+55 1519,-16.9375,44.71875,-16.59375
BD+63 1764,-113.25,16.78125,-28.34375
BD+64 1452,-98.5625,25.6875,-17.40625
BD+65 1846,-60.3125,7.125,-25.53125
BD+67 1409,-89.4375,16.0625,-30.25
BD+71 1033,-104.125,33.875,-30.9375
BD+74 526,-48.65625,53.28125,-29.25
BD+87 118,-58.59375,40.65625,-37.75
Belobog,-13.34375,53.78125,12.5625
BF Canis Venatici,-8.25,62.1875,-3.0625
Bolg,-7.90625,34.71875,2.125
CE Bootis,-5.40625,29.375,16.46875
Chi Herculis,-30.75,39.71875,12.78125
CM Draco,-35.6875,30.9375,2.15625
Coelrind,3.0625,35.28125,6.96875
CR Draco,-49.46875,47.4375,4.375
Dahan,-19.75,41.78125,-3.1875
Darahk,-65,27,-37
Demeter,-55.34375,40.8125,7.5625
DX 799,-22.96875,12.3125,-17.90625
Eranin,-22.84375,36.53125,-1.1875
Evergreen,-86.6875,25.34375,-3.3125
Exbeur,-35.15625,27.84375,-33.65625
Flousop,-1.625,16.8125,4
G 180-18,-28.96875,40.6875,19.03125
G 181-6,-20.3125,20.3125,14.0625
G 203-47,-18.34375,14.25,7.09375
G 224-46,-55.25,60.34375,-12.71875
G 239-25,-22.6875,25.8125,-6.6875
Gera,-88.8125,11.6875,-33.59375
Gliese 9843,-106.25,33.59375,-61
h Draconis,-39.84375,29.5625,-3.90625
Hagalaz,-50.59375,45.15625,11.09375
HIP 105557,-113.53125,41.21875,-45.6875
HIP 107457,-116.25,28.34375,-39.3125
HIP 109479,-127.5,29.875,-48.5
HIP 110773,-120.375,46.375,-60.6875
HIP 113477,-121.40625,19.78125,-52.46875
HIP 2422,-103.21875,31.34375,-64.375
HIP 2453,-110.90625,16.5,-67.84375
HIP 91906,-108.09375,57.1875,-33.59375
HR 7925,-104.53125,21.0625,-12.1875
HR 8423,-105.375,48.25,-55.53125
HR 8474,-97.96875,21.3125,-36.125
Huokang,-12.1875,35.46875,-25.28125
Hyperion,-51.1875,7.5,-16.71875
i Bootis,-22.375,34.84375,4
Ithaca,-8.09375,44.9375,-9.28125
K Camelopardalis,-45.21875,26.625,-43.46875
Keries,-18.90625,27.21875,12.59375
Lalande 29917,-26.53125,22.15625,-4.5625
Lalande 30699,-64.34375,48.96875,-10.875
Lalande 37923,-84.125,38.9375,-28.15625
LAWD 52,-52.28125,61.8125,-26.5625
LFT 1072,-45.90625,43.71875,-23.25
LFT 1421,-45.46875,18.5625,12.59375
LFT 1446,-38.8125,18.25,-7.9375
LFT 880,-22.8125,31.40625,-18.34375
LFT 992,-7.5625,42.59375,0.6875
LHS 1065,-51.71875,15.84375,-31.75
LHS 1101,-54.46875,9.375,-33.46875
LHS 140,-34.53125,16.1875,-23.0625
LHS 207,-47.84375,28.65625,-45.8125
LHS 2088,-23.3125,25.71875,-28.34375
LHS 2123,-56.53125,42.40625,-44.75
LHS 215,-20.59375,13.28125,-18.3125
LHS 2405,-45.875,45.5625,-36.28125
LHS 246,-19,22.5625,-28.21875
LHS 250,-19.1875,24.34375,-29.53125
LHS 2651,-22.84375,60.375,-13.8125
LHS 2764a,-4.71875,54.125,0.65625
LHS 2819,-30.5,38.5625,-13.4375
LHS 283,-20.78125,29.59375,-23.53125
LHS 287,1.03125,29.59375,-16.5
LHS 2884,-22,48.40625,1.78125
LHS 2887,-7.34375,26.78125,5.71875
LHS 2936,-31.6875,55.5625,0.5
LHS 3006,-21.96875,29.09375,-1.71875
LHS 3057,-50.75,50.03125,-13.28125
LHS 3262,-24.125,18.84375,4.90625
LHS 3549,-29.625,6.125,-1.9375
LHS 355,1.09375,46.15625,9.71875
LHS 3586,-82.09375,25.96875,-23.15625
LHS 3631,-91.625,30.34375,-31.65625
LHS 369,9.71875,26.34375,22.15625
LHS 371,-9.625,49.4375,17.625
LHS 3877,-74.28125,10.90625,-30.84375
LHS 391,-15.90625,45.15625,21.375
LHS 411,-13.125,23.59375,18.625
LHS 417,-18.3125,18.1875,4.90625
LHS 5072,-33.34375,15.15625,-27.53125
LHS 5287,-36.40625,48.1875,-0.78125
LHS 6282,-11.46875,39.78125,22.78125
LHS 6309,-33.5625,33.125,13.46875
LHS 64,-76.6875,11.09375,-10.8125
Loga,-79.78125,36.53125,-42.0625
LP 102-320,-60.625,35.125,3.21875
LP 1-52,-49.9375,28.8125,-33.28125
LP 27-9,-70.40625,25.4375,-32.40625
LP 29-188,-67.625,17.0625,-50.21875
LP 320-359,1.25,49.71875,-6.5625
LP 322-836,-3.4375,51.59375,2.03125
LP 37-75,-27.25,38.5,-33.65625
LP 45-128,-69.28125,32.25,-13.90625
LP 48-567,-67.0625,14.96875,-25.5625
LP 5-88,-27.28125,19.59375,-23.03125
LP 64-194,-21.65625,32.21875,-16.21875
LP 71-157,-52.34375,28.375,-8.03125
LP 98-132,-26.78125,37.03125,-4.59375
LP Draconis,-87.9375,49.34375,-15.5
LTT 10482,-61.1875,23.59375,-42
LTT 15294,-84.6875,50.21875,-6.40625
LTT 16523,-72.65625,13.28125,-25.9375
LTT 16979,-97.25,24.3125,-52.5625
Magec,-32.875,36.15625,15.5
Malina,-48.1875,23,14.40625
MCC 858,-74,4.9375,-29.875
Meliae,-17.3125,49.53125,-1.6875
Miola,-64,24,-41
Miquich,-17.71875,19.125,19.59375
Morgor,-15.25,39.53125,-2.25
Moros,-45.96875,17.375,-31.3125
Mufrid,-1.125,35.25,11.09375
Mullag,0.5,35.09375,-19.1875
Nang Ta-khian,-18.21875,26.5625,-6.34375
Naraka,-34.09375,26.21875,-5.53125
NLTT 46621,-43.8125,20.34375,4.8125
NLTT 50716,-90.96875,40.40625,-42.0625
NLTT 53889,-76.5,7.6875,-24.96875
Opala,-25.5,35.25,9.28125
Ori,-26.28125,56.09375,2.4375
OT Serpentis,-11.125,30.34375,18.40625
Ovid,-28.0625,35.15625,14.8125
Parcae,-8.125,55.09375,-17
Paul-Friedrichs Star,-48.15625,34.3125,8.78125
Perendi,-52.5625,33.09375,-11.875
Pi-fang,-34.65625,22.84375,-4.59375
Psamathe,-76.71875,7.34375,-28.0625
Quiness,-46.46875,37.78125,-24.9375
Rahu,-43.78125,62.4375,-0.25
Rakapila,-14.90625,33.625,9.125
Ross 1003,-4.3125,33.90625,-11.96875
Ross 1015,-6.09375,29.46875,3.03125
Ross 1051,-37.21875,44.5,-5.0625
Ross 1057,-32.3125,26.1875,-12.4375
Ross 130,-3.90625,41,19.75
Ross 210,-73.5,10.0625,-15.71875
Ross 211,-123.71875,17.3125,-30.21875
Ross 860,-20.125,19.28125,19
Ross 905,4.46875,31.9375,-7.21875
Sigma Bootis,-14.46875,47.4375,14.40625
Sofagre,-54.21875,48.53125,-30.15625
Styx,-24.3125,37.75,6.03125
Surya,-38.46875,39.25,5.40625
Tatil,-77.84375,23.1875,-22.59375
Tilian,-21.53125,22.3125,10.125
Tollan,-14.78125,20,-21.96875
Tun,-47.96875,20.96875,-17.53125
Tyr,-79.625,21.25,-25.0625
V1090 Herculis,-44.9375,36.9375,13.46875
V740 Cassiopeiae,-86.1875,7.15625,-47.78125
Vetr,-59.0625,12.65625,1.46875
Wolf 1409,-56.125,29.8125,9.0625
Wolf 497,0.125,41.46875,11.96875
Wyrd,-11.625,31.53125,-3.9375
Xi Ursae Majoris,2.65625,27.09375,-9.9375
Yoruba,-46,35.84375,-34.21875
Zeta Herculis,-21.34375,22.375,16.25

2. The following B3 systems do NOT match the coordinates we have for B2. Note the CSV has 6 coordinate points. The 3 first ones are the old B2 coords, and the second 3 are the delta to the new B3 coords. Note also, these are not just rounding differences, they are significant LY differences. Ie, the systems have moved between beta's.

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Aladu Kuan Gon,-108.75,15.8125,-14.25,-0.0625,-8.84375,6.53125
Baga,-107.3125,35.5,-58.84375,3,20.375,-13.59375
Bhotepa,-134.625,33.21875,-38.0625,-25.46875,-2.75,21.3125
Chapoyo,-72.0625,31.84375,-47.53125,28.3125,-2.625,-7.4375
Chara,-4.84375,26.65625,-4.78125,125.625,48.40625,120.03125
Cuages,-124.875,20.03125,-23.78125,12.90625,-1.6875,-8.875
Djedet,-81.46875,30.5625,-1.1875,11.375,7.75,21.125
Ehlangai,-11.21875,32.53125,-23.03125,40.3125,-2.625,23.09375
Fu Haiting,-69.46875,32.125,-48.875,33.53125,2.65625,-5.4375
Grabri,-81.1875,42.28125,-5.1875,16.53125,-1.375,10.59375
Jaitu,-92.59375,15.1875,-9.15625,9.5625,-6.5625,8.15625
Jata,-67.78125,58.3125,-28.8125,-39.40625,170.84375,-127.25
Kamchaultultula,-101.09375,11,-24.09375,-19.03125,9.375,-9.65625
Keian Gu,-6,36.28125,-19.875,57.71875,13.8125,24.1875
Korubu,-102,36.3125,-7.8125,-15.46875,-2.75,0.96875
Lakluit,-83.875,21.125,-10.0625,17.8125,-4,4
Macomaneleng Mu,-101,16.375,-30.65625,-0.59375,-11.75,-1.90625
Moscab Kutja,-75.75,25.40625,-23.78125,19.90625,-12.65625,-10.3125
Ngoloki Anaten,-135.9375,33.5,-40.5,-23.4375,-0.3125,19.53125
Pemede,-88.90625,22.28125,-21.40625,-0.46875,-3.1875,4.75
Taleachishvakhrud,-96.5625,56.71875,-19.5,6.40625,-0.65625,2.4375
Tsetan,-102.625,19.65625,-41.125,10.125,1.9375,-6.40625
Verboni,-82.71875,21.46875,-34.78125,16,-1.03125,25.5625
Wikmeang,-123.59375,25.875,-33.25,12.125,5.0625,9.8125
Xi Wangkala,-133.0625,38.6875,-38.125,2.59375,3.375,-8.28125

3. The following are the new systems given for B3 (with their B3 Sol centric Coords) that we never had at all in B2.

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10 Ursae Majoris,0.03125,34.90625,-39.09375
16 c Ursae Majoris,-21.375,41.84375,-43.21875
17 Crateris,73,44.125,17.625
20 Leonis Minoris,7.78125,39.40625,-28.1875
24 Iota Crateris,60,62.65625,8.375
54 G. Antlia,70.375,24.46875,-1.09375
59 Virginis,10.9375,54.09375,15.25
60 Tau Draconis,-129,60.21875,-34.125
61 Virginis,14.8125,19.28125,13.65625
66 Draconis,-164.71875,46.3125,-16.0625
68 Draconis,-151.46875,41,-15.96875
70 Virginis,5.9375,56.25,15.46875
Abrogo,20.8125,16.75,-13.3125
Acurukunabogamal,68.4375,24.65625,-1.0625
Adityaraguala,-7.09375,2.25,-19.96875
Aegilips,22.96875,28.9375,28.40625
Aeneas,54.40625,35.90625,24.9375
Agwe,-48.5625,47.53125,-49.125
Akhenaten,-53.375,7.84375,-40.375
Aknango,-155.40625,30,-76.4375
Al Mina,14.4375,43.78125,-13.25
Alchita,36.21875,29.28125,14.21875
Alcor,-36,71.90625,-14.59375
Algorab,54.1875,62.3125,26.90625
Ammapa,-115.25,58.125,-43.28125
Amun,51.5625,32.1875,-27.125
Anaiwal,-141.78125,46.34375,-18.25
Andancan,-75,43,-63
Andoe,-33.34375,1.0625,-26.40625
Anete,41.5625,13.15625,-1.6875
Aninohini,-119.625,10.375,-32.375
Anlave,-25.375,1.125,-20.84375
Ansari,-84.5,37.59375,-44.71875
Antevorta,43.1875,39.3125,1.53125
Antinica,64.5,62.3125,-12.625
Anyanwu,32.15625,23.09375,32.1875
Ao Guang,0.625,40.03125,-21.34375
Apalai,52.96875,51.0625,-16.65625
Apura,41.8125,57.34375,5.40625
Arin,1.0625,3.875,-9
Ashtart,18.5,65.84375,3.28125
Atarapa,41.5625,23.5625,-30.5
Atum,49.96875,17.625,5.59375
Audhisatsuri,-107.875,29.5625,-20.9375
Audusi,-115.71875,16.53125,-21.09375
Aurvandill,-154.65625,40.34375,-82.78125
Awabatamori,-110.78125,39.46875,-35.59375
Awngtei,-133.5625,10.21875,-58.5625
Azaladshu,60.9375,10.34375,-1.09375
Bast,-36.46875,16.15625,-34.9375
Batani,-134.03125,57.34375,-26.53125
Baudus,-68.09375,41.0625,-30.96875
BD+03 2279,40.9375,44.125,-28.84375
BD+03 2316,44.71875,51.34375,-27.875
BD+16 2404,8.875,45.1875,3.9375
BD+26 2184,13.21875,64.21875,-21.0625
BD+27 1739,15.53125,42.78125,-43.15625
BD+29 2405,-6.28125,60.8125,5.5
BD+57 2595,-110.40625,-1.25,-34.25
BD+66 193,-57.53125,8.625,-50.21875
BD+72 545,-48.375,61.71875,-40.21875
BD-01 2784,23.84375,57.78125,23.71875
BD-18 3106,48.46875,36.875,2.0625
Begou,-141.125,-1.8125,-53.8125
Bhaguti,41.6875,36.3125,18.9375
Bhotega,-55.21875,14.5,-25.15625
Binbeal,-172.875,11.25,-51.125
Bingui,59.125,38.5,-4.625
Blata,-152.90625,21.71875,-12.6875
Blatrimpe,29.125,11.3125,-15.875
Bogatiku,-126.625,45.71875,-12.5625
Borom Caquit,22.1875,69.5625,-6.4375
Bragurom Du,17.4375,61.1875,-6.53125
Brahma,13.28125,45.25,17.65625
Bugas,12.59375,24.34375,2.84375
Bumbo,-92.0625,35,-64.28125
Bunda,65.625,17.96875,24.96875
Buryacuan Wu,67.53125,25,24.625
Caeronthudti,32.25,14.90625,-13.5
Caicius,41.0625,48.03125,18.96875
Caluayaksheper,-83.375,21.5625,-41.09375
Candjinan,-143.25,30.9375,-68.6875
Carnoeck,35.96875,5.1875,1.3125
Carnutenichuara,-128.46875,33.9375,-19.46875
Catuntinigi,-52.65625,30.78125,-51.90625
Cavashira,-171.0625,43.28125,-34.96875
Cavins,27,8.78125,-7.0625
CD-35 6972,81.71875,34.21875,15.375
Cenil,55.84375,45.4375,-26.53125
Chaac,0.4375,63.21875,-9.5
Chaxiraxi,-9.84375,66.53125,5.75
Chechehet,-106.5625,24.625,-27.90625
Chelmen,-65.96875,47.78125,-56.875
Chemaku,-77.5625,6.5625,-10.53125
Chini,52.75,43.65625,-31.46875
Chongquan,-20.78125,13.1875,-37.4375
Chontantici,49.8125,37.96875,21.84375
Choujemait,-114.59375,3.0625,-40.96875
Ciguru,-82.40625,3.875,-8.90625
Circios,-3.9375,54.5,-37.03125
Coriccha,-14.40625,19.9375,7
Corioskeh Tryth,-118.25,33.34375,-23.65625
CPD-23 501,60.59375,35.3125,0.625
Cybele,33.125,54.46875,25.03125
Czernovale,40.53125,37.53125,19.5
Dagaz,30.15625,55,15.3125
Dakantjarini,-93.28125,62.96875,-32.0625
Denebola,11.09375,33.90625,-3.5
Dierfar,73.375,38.71875,10.8125
Difu,-34.40625,1.4375,-27.875
Divja Mu,-92.3125,13.4375,-16.8125
Doris,-38.875,69.03125,-13.375
DT Virginis,6.9375,35.03125,6.21875
Duamta,2.1875,6.625,-7
DX Cancri,2.90625,6.3125,-9.5625
Dyaushis,-50.0625,8.375,-41.78125
EGGR 431,31.6875,36.75,-28.40625
Egovedunuvitra,-117.375,23.1875,-6.6875
Eme,33.71875,26.21875,4.03125
Enumclawilya,-116.875,15.25,-36.03125
Eravarenth,66.84375,21.84375,27.46875
Erlaza,28.25,22.59375,30.375
Eta Corvi,36.71875,43.03125,18.78125
Eta Draconis,-69.53125,60.28125,-2.9375
Etznabihik Mangk,54.125,62.375,6.4375
FAUST 2688,62.5,51.4375,-11.46875
Feng Huang,74.53125,40.125,-20.4375
Fianna,28.5625,27.34375,11
Fionn,32.5,9.3125,-22.75
FN Virginis,7.5625,24.6875,6.15625
Friggirawi,-112.21875,38.3125,-19.875
G 113-20,18.78125,10.09375,-20.75
G 121-8,9.1875,58.75,-10.59375
G 123-49,-18.90625,66.875,-14.78125
G 14-6,13.5,30.375,9.0625
G 146-5,-7.375,53.9375,-43.03125
G 175-42,-14.65625,2.5,-29.46875
G 250-34,-27.28125,25.90625,-44.5
G 65-9,9.53125,42.34375,20.34375
G 89-32,10.28125,4.59375,-16.6875
GD 140,4.84375,49.5625,-13.3125
Gendalla,12,9.96875,-5.53125
Gendini,-122.5625,48.5,-34.5625
Gliese 3371,-17.71875,12.96875,-38.3125
Gomm Crua,-41.46875,27.21875,-51.15625
Gong Gu,-88.90625,26.1875,-4.6875
GQ Virginis,12.15625,27.3125,23.28125
Groombridge 1618,-2.34375,12.625,-9.34375
Guangul,-27.5,14.3125,-2.28125
Gunnovii,-114.40625,37.25,-1.71875
Guy,26.71875,14.25,7.375
Hach,-73.0625,13.28125,-8.25
Hadad,9.875,57.84375,20.59375
Haeditjaray,-163.0625,14.03125,-64.5625
Haidjaram,-126.3125,57.28125,-24.1875
Hambula,-39.65625,6.125,-2.5
Haokah,-22.1875,37.625,-47.3125
Hared,-97.125,22.75,-20
Haribaluayai,-150.375,30.3125,-13.9375
Havat,-107,15.3125,-39.71875
HDS 1879,-38.125,69.1875,-17.09375
Heheng De,-119.34375,31.71875,-9.625
Helios,32.34375,42.1875,-11.28125
HIP 111496,-136.75,13.71875,-47.53125
HIP 113905,-140.3125,36.9375,-68.5
HIP 114099,-153.28125,26.65625,-69.34375
HIP 114769,-155.5,13.5625,-67.34375
HIP 4907,-68.3125,9.625,-46.5
HIP 85887,-110.34375,69.90625,-31.375
Hlocidirus,30.96875,19.78125,-29.78125
Hlooyn,2.15625,66.21875,-26.84375
Holiacan,-51.25,67.34375,-21.46875
HR 3862,44.34375,18.09375,-10.03125
HR 3991,71.8125,51,-20.59375
HR 4979,48.28125,28.03125,37.75
HR 8472,-118.84375,1.125,-26.875
Hsien Baji,-49.1875,20.21875,-43.625
Hun Banja,-84.4375,16.90625,-60.40625
Igororai,-176.25,30.75,-71.59375
Ikpenones,-39.375,31.5625,-45.09375
Issin,-45.1875,56.3125,-42.84375
Istanu,2.0625,55.15625,1.28125
Janjak,-121.96875,16.03125,-71.40625
Jeidrungaragototo,-145.5,24.21875,-19.25
Jetes,-141.21875,16.28125,-59.3125
Jok Islese,70.15625,51.5625,9.5
Jolangen,31.59375,29.3125,35
Juipedun,-90.34375,39.75,-61.375
Jula Oh,-184,44.78125,-58.1875
Jun,-126,29.21875,-4
Jungkurara,-161.6875,22.65625,-42.0625
Kaal,-18.34375,66.71875,-21.59375
Kaha'i,-7.03125,60.8125,-21.8125
Kali,33.59375,57.375,-28.84375
Kanati,74.125,46.1875,-19.46875
Kanos,41.375,53.65625,-12.65625
Karovices,-102.4375,6.9375,-14.875
Kassi Hua,-100.15625,35.8125,-62.0625
Katae,-27.90625,61.21875,-11.125
Kato,-181.03125,26.3125,-20.78125
Keiadjara,-114.125,28.90625,-56.59375
Keling,-133.25,61.9375,-38.09375
Khernidjal,-35.9375,70.5625,-7.65625
Kholedo,-95.09375,33.5625,-7.15625
Khong Qin Gu,-102.1875,20.1875,-23.125
Kishia,-107.9375,5.96875,-47.71875
Kokobujundji,-122.28125,59.8125,-19.15625
Kokoto,39.15625,40.5,28
Kongi,-149.21875,14.25,-45.125
Kotaition,-100.84375,35.5,-36.34375
Krumine,-154.90625,17.53125,-79.03125
Kuikian Batji,-69.65625,67.3125,-39.03125
Kumana,72.28125,30.0625,-22.5625
Kunapalanezti,-118.125,60.6875,-34.6875
Kunbuluan,-90.09375,61.6875,-30.875
Kungati,-123.5,13.25,-35.78125
Kurngali,-129.8125,37.34375,-48.78125
Kurui Gubi,-33.8125,39.34375,-26.25
Kurunmindjuk,-66.25,52.25,-17.78125
Kushentinoni,-134.71875,24.46875,-57.5625
Kwakamitreyja,-89.84375,23.0625,-24.375
Kwamennero Kojin,-69.4375,42,-52.4375
Labed,-86.875,32.3125,-59.90625
Lalande 18115,-3.84375,14,-14.40625
Lalande 22954,42.8125,56.96875,15.21875
Las Xenangaresti,-128.40625,33.59375,-24.75
Latucairhemaiabi,-168.90625,27.375,-55.375
LAWD 17,-1.84375,39.78125,-39.6875
LDS 2314,-16.5,44.5625,-31.875
LDS 413,53.65625,32.40625,30.84375
Lei Ta Tetona,19.125,15.4375,-12.28125
Leng Wanjadimuru,-133.90625,-1.21875,-33.375
LFT 1748,-43.375,1,-15.125
LFT 424,-14.46875,8.8125,-37.03125
LFT 601,26.65625,24.8125,-34.75
LFT 625,50.21875,8.71875,-13
LFT 682,32,3.1875,1.46875
LFT 698,27.25,26.75,-12.625
LFT 709,34.6875,26.15625,-9.46875
LFT 820,12.34375,54.5,-13.5625
LFT 824,45.96875,33.71875,9.71875
LFT 859,12.5625,31.46875,-1.71875
LFT 90,-29.21875,-0.9375,-19.8125
LFT 926,51.03125,17.6875,30.21875
LFT 945,27.5,53.90625,16.40625
LHS 1167,-65.90625,8.9375,-44
LHS 1505,-50.25,18.8125,-44.09375
LHS 1663,-40.53125,18.25,-40.90625
LHS 1882,-16.4375,21.375,-48.6875
LHS 1923,-18.59375,27.84375,-48.96875
LHS 1951,17.875,6.625,-21.375
LHS 1963,-0.4375,14.09375,-24.3125
LHS 2037,33.78125,7.25,-14.5
LHS 2157,26.21875,11.15625,-7.3125
LHS 2166,30.5,4.65625,-0.59375
LHS 221,-13.25,14.25,-28.71875
LHS 2217,40.1875,50,-30.15625
LHS 2233,69.34375,21.03125,0.25
LHS 224,-7.5625,11.71875,-26.46875
LHS 2274,8.21875,58.28125,-33.9375
LHS 229,-5.90625,16.625,-33.34375
LHS 2314,42.90625,64.03125,-20.375
LHS 2335,52.09375,25.34375,5.6875
LHS 2337,9.9375,66.25,-28.90625
LHS 2363,-11.9375,62.25,-31.78125
LHS 2412,55.09375,62.28125,1.875
LHS 2429,24.71875,13.375,6.875
LHS 2471,18.96875,42.09375,-1.3125
LHS 2477,67.8125,31.1875,26.9375
LHS 2482,22.75,63.90625,-3.71875
LHS 2494,35.53125,59.03125,5.09375
LHS 2541,29.8125,63.96875,6.625
LHS 2552,40.15625,13,21.25
LHS 259,-7.625,42.28125,-47.90625
LHS 262,-6.90625,22.875,-23.8125
LHS 2661,16.09375,46.71875,12.71875
LHS 2691,-4.1875,65,3.21875
LHS 274,35.8125,23.28125,-13.25
LHS 278,-5.90625,38.65625,-29.90625
LHS 2789,-34.34375,71,-8.78125
LHS 295,15.71875,33.46875,-12.21875
LHS 301,28.84375,52.34375,-8.625
LHS 302,9.96875,53.1875,-16.3125
LHS 306,30.09375,28.84375,2.96875
LHS 317,44.65625,27.03125,15.03125
LHS 331,-24.40625,63.4375,-20.65625
LHS 336,26.5625,5.78125,16.125
LHS 346,38.96875,20.21875,28.96875
LHS 351,8.40625,59.875,17.5625
LHS 380,5.28125,6.75,10.875
LHS 450,-12.40625,7.8125,-1.875
LHS 6128,-14.4375,18.3125,-29.28125
LHS 6197,79.5,45,10.46875
Li Quang,-108.03125,36.84375,-11.75
Logoni,69.21875,29.03125,17.28125
Lokapuri,-72.78125,33.78125,1.9375
Lopu Maid Fo,59.28125,44.375,16.6875
LP 131-55,-25.34375,63.8125,-17.6875
LP 167-64,-7.34375,55.78125,-35.59375
LP 167-71,-11.15625,61.84375,-39.28125
LP 211-12,2.03125,43.96875,-41.375
LP 30-55,-26.5625,6.75,-20.71875
LP 36-115,-41.6875,46,-49.78125
LP 377-100,7.5625,70.4375,-2.5625
LP 465-14,75.75,26.03125,5.15625
LP 488-37,28.5625,42.5625,-31.9375
LP 51-17,-60.0625,5.15625,-40.28125
LP 58-247,-24.25,28.53125,-46
LP 60-205,-31.96875,46.84375,-50.375
LP 617-37,22.28125,58.59375,25.5
LP 672-42,27.78125,32.84375,1
LP 673-13,33.15625,43.03125,0.40625
LP 675-76,27.21875,45.59375,11.59375
LP 732-94,33.28125,32.34375,1.03125
LP 734-11,36.9375,41.28125,9.625
LP 787-52,35.40625,14.375,-14.21875
LP 792-20,41.53125,34.78125,4
LP 792-33,54.8125,49.65625,7.71875
LP 793-33,46.875,40.21875,11.25
LP 844-28,36.125,9.3125,-13.75
LP 847-48,34.0625,13.375,-4.78125
LP 849-20,78.71875,50.21875,1.0625
LP 855-34,33.625,33.8125,33.375
LP 90-39,-18.25,33.09375,-39.09375
LP 906-9,43.4375,25.78125,6.5625
LP 908-11,42.84375,25.34375,16.9375
LTT 12680,31.09375,53.25,-34.96875
LTT 12990,-0.5625,67.40625,-29.65625
LTT 3919,50.03125,17.375,5.59375
LTT 4131,61,37.84375,7.84375
LTT 4150,61.46875,42.6875,6.96875
LTT 4376,54.5,61.46875,9.625
LTT 4447,68.0625,50.40625,23.15625
LTT 4461,49.625,44.84375,15.65625
LTT 4527,49.9375,48.53125,17.28125
LTT 4549,55.71875,17.59375,27.15625
LTT 4730,22.1875,30.875,9.84375
LTT 4772,50.78125,63.21875,26.53125
LTT 4898,43.0625,39.71875,27.71875
LTT 5131,39.28125,26.0625,32.375
LTT 5455,13.0625,18.8125,17.96875
LU Velorum,49.875,5.875,4.3125
Lucab Ku,-132.75,48.28125,-41.4375
Luggerates,-106.8125,42.0625,-63.9375
Lugien Chabtani,-63.21875,57.625,-16
Luhman 16,6.3125,0.59375,1.71875
Luyten 674-15,16.71875,2.28125,-9.125
Luyten's Star,6.5625,2.34375,-10.25
Maitaokona,-157.0625,33.1875,-69.8125
Maitis,-84.1875,18.0625,-47.28125
Malanquiya,-150.21875,30.09375,-15.6875
Maljenni,61.34375,38.71875,17
Manarato,-91.84375,64.9375,-38.5
Manbai Chac Moco,28.5,32.09375,5.3125
Mankob,-84.78125,21.90625,-44.40625
Mannheim,-142,67.625,-36.34375
Maranarinjhian Hsi,-97.34375,42.625,-6.9375
Marasing,-89.03125,31.09375,-11.15625
Maraupol Bumbin,82.5,50.71875,4.84375
Marditj,32.4375,15.0625,9.375
Markanomovoy,-167.09375,26.71875,-55.375
Marojini,-99.84375,34.46875,-9.3125
Marsinatani,-87.21875,40.34375,-9.5
Maujinagoto,-77.46875,16.09375,-19.5625
Mbuthamovites,-132.8125,15.65625,-47.90625
Megrez,-30.09375,69.5625,-27.1875
Melcior,54.78125,65.25,-9.21875
Midgcut,-14.625,10.34375,13.15625
Mildeptu,14.125,1.3125,-3.28125
Mildjarayuta,65.9375,44.625,8.84375
Minawara,-100.03125,42.53125,-60.59375
Mizar,-34.21875,68.84375,-14.09375
Mobokomu,-126.40625,20.09375,-57.3125
Mokojing,73.4375,58.34375,-0.21875
Momoirent,58.0625,13.53125,0.90625
Mu Nora,-115.09375,43.84375,-24.5
Muango,-143.03125,28.53125,-20.90625
Muncheim,-98.375,37.5625,-61.28125
Nagariggam,57.0625,37.875,0.75
Nahundi,28,47.15625,-13.28125
Nakuma,-154.59375,34.1875,-18.75
Neche,63.6875,12.90625,-13.09375
Nemepawe,-127.59375,34.90625,-43.40625
Nener,-97,14.15625,-33.5
Ngardamayo,39.53125,28.53125,-36.21875
Ngolitjali,-117.53125,38.0625,-4.9375
Nicobarese,-124.9375,29.90625,-39.15625
Njikan,-104.78125,3.65625,-20.8125
NLTT 26813,65.5625,35.875,11.8125
NLTT 34715,-27.4375,66.53125,-5.65625
NLTT 48502,-99.5625,27.125,-4.25
Nuenets,48,17.65625,28.3125
Nuguynici,-132.3125,44.40625,-13.84375
Nuwang,-87.65625,0.59375,-41.53125
Nzam Cakua,-90.65625,8.5,-40.625
Nzambassee,-1.03125,33.0625,-19.96875
Okinoukhe,-111.5625,8.84375,-41.65625
Okuapang,-84.3125,52.8125,-14.875
Olgrea,-28.125,68.28125,-6.375
Onduwatya,-119.9375,60.34375,-38.71875
Pachanu,-160.21875,40.53125,-55.75
Pan,14.9375,40.03125,22.375
Pangluya,27.1875,41.1875,-16.59375
Phra Zhan,78.8125,56.0625,7.21875
Piran,-124.40625,39.5,-13.96875
Pliny,4.625,36,-13.5
Pollux,6.71875,13.71875,-30.125
Popon,-156.78125,20.84375,-76.75
PPM 41187,-74.125,-1.9375,-23.90625
Privir,-161.0625,16.5,-22.875
Procyon,6.21875,2.65625,-9.1875
PW Hydrae,65,38.5625,-6.21875
Rabates,-152.125,-1.71875,-49.34375
Ratri,-11.53125,70,-26.75
Rauratunab,-118.4375,11.03125,-51.78125
Rhea,58.125,22.59375,-28.59375
Rho Cancri,9.34375,24.9375,-30.1875
Ross 104,5.5625,19.6875,-7.3125
Ross 112,-28,64.28125,-33.34375
Ross 128,5.53125,9.4375,0.125
Ross 318,-22,4.25,-14.875
Ross 446,14.21875,16.90625,-6.53125
Ross 447,-36.5,52.46875,-38.15625
Ross 486,14.65625,39.46875,18.90625
Ross 490,3.59375,23.5,7.53125
Ross 667,-170.53125,5.71875,-49.1875
Ross 695,18.8125,20.03125,8.78125
Ross 85,17.375,25.5,-19.875
Ross 93,11.46875,34.5625,-27.6875
Ross 986,-0.25,7.1875,-19.25
Sak Chelmir,55.78125,40.8125,19.78125
Salarhul,-120.875,46.34375,-35.5625
Samkyha,66.96875,28.75,-1.21875
Sanguru,-123.53125,42.3125,-72.71875
Seber,-173.875,2.5625,-31.21875
Sekhemet,33.1875,30.375,-29.21875
Selebegua,58.75,61.125,25.59375
Seting,-57.71875,7.875,-6.5
Shama,-143.3125,49.75,-45.3125
Shamash,47.46875,28.28125,-9.21875
Shapash,36.75,31.8125,-19.375
Shebayeb,-84.6875,55.71875,-12.78125
Sheela Na Gig,-24.9375,67.46875,-12.09375
Skeggiko O,53.6875,11.9375,16.5
Slatus,76.6875,35.1875,-19.09375
Sokoji,58.15625,38.875,19.4375
Song Te Tians,40.09375,52.59375,-17.21875
Sopdu,-45.625,7.125,-27.53125
Stein 2051,-9.46875,2.4375,-15.375
Sudz,-9.875,52.4375,-29.25
Sukub Tungatis,-40.125,65.96875,-35.5625
Sukuruaco,69.46875,45.875,13.6875
Supen,-95.25,61.53125,-47.71875
Suraci,-102.53125,9.34375,-51.625
Tabassapisi,-84.5,37.34375,-2.25
Taexalkoloine,-92.125,57.21875,-27.53125
Taima Baijuhacmoora,-12.125,56.59375,9.1875
Taliesin,-2.9375,22.1875,-25.28125
Talitha,-5.125,31.28125,-35.125
T'ang Bumbain,-86.5625,29.96875,-4.0625
Taosha,-113.9375,18.78125,-10.875
Tarasa,-159.78125,53.09375,-56.6875
Tau Bootis,0.09375,48.78125,14.625
Tau-1 Hydrae,39.59375,30.96875,-25.84375
Tefenhua,-61.03125,58.8125,-43.96875
Teng Yeh,6.28125,28.4375,-12.46875
Theta Cygni,-57.65625,14.15625,7.1875
Theta Ursae Majoris,-7.59375,31.71875,-29.46875
Thosim Biamh,-59.5625,31.65625,-23.3125
Thoth,1.9375,41.46875,-24.8125
Thottacahuan,12.4375,30.90625,9.15625
Thraskias,46.71875,46.625,-1.65625
Tiapalan,26.03125,18.28125,9.15625
Tiethay,-29.625,67.09375,-20.875
Tinia,6.8125,48.71875,-33.25
Tivertsi,-106.6875,2.03125,-50.0625
Trepin,26.375,10.5625,9.78125
Tripu,-73.15625,9.28125,-27.8125
Tsohodiae,-103.75,30.96875,-1.5625
Turmakul,-79.1875,64.25,-33.875
Tyche,25.21875,43.96875,-28.6875
Udegoci,-70,51.71875,-54.5
V2151 Cygni,-63.75,3.65625,-5.59375
V417 Hydrae,61.65625,44,-20.125
V419 Hydrae,62.625,30.625,2.78125
V538 Aurigae,-14.25,8.625,-36.4375
V886 Centauri,45.15625,12.125,26.96875
V989 Cassiopeiae,-45.375,6.78125,-39.625
Vega,-21.90625,8.125,9
Veneri,35.6875,54.125,20.09375
VZ Corvi,39.6875,50.4375,25.59375
Wadjuk,-50.59375,49.84375,-45.8125
Wakarendians,-134.5,35.28125,-26.21875
Wanggu,-132.71875,30.96875,-39.59375
Wathlanukh,-149.21875,5.25,-60.6875
Wei Jung,-124.71875,14.28125,-29.1875
Wen Tsakimori,-98.3125,64.34375,-47.40625
Widjararappan,-130.84375,41.8125,-21.78125
Widjigarasir,-141.9375,45.75,-10.46875
WISE 1506+7027,-7.375,7.09375,-2.4375
Wolf 1478,9.5,24.15625,23.875
Wolf 1481,5.1875,13.375,13.5625
Wolf 248,2.78125,60.3125,-0.4375
Wolf 294,1,4.9375,-17.53125
Wolf 359,3.875,6.46875,-1.90625
Wolf 369,30.625,50.375,-8.875
Wolf 393,29.65625,49.4375,-4.9375
Wolf 417,13.6875,42.0625,4.8125
Wolf 424,4.21875,13.28125,1.4375
Wolf 437,7,26,4.375
Wolf 46,-27.03125,-0.125,-18.625
Wolf 485a,22.90625,46.71875,27.28125
Wolf 54,-39.90625,1.1875,-27.9375
Wolf 562,1.46875,12.84375,15.5625
Wosyra Pao,11.53125,31.375,-13.9375
Wu Gondru,-132.6875,23.15625,-20.125
Wunian,-130.0625,18.375,-32.9375
WX Ursa Majoris,-1.40625,14.15625,-6.875
Xelabara,-93.40625,66.0625,-44.96875
Xolotl,-21.53125,43.5,-41.65625
Yakan,-140.84375,45.9375,-12.53125
Yakawana,-103.09375,35.46875,-31.28125
Ya'Nomisiyaces,41.34375,13.28125,-9.6875
Yanyan,-40.3125,42.40625,-8.46875
Yarigui,-72.5625,2.5625,-25.84375
Ye'kuapemas,-70.15625,44.625,-33.65625
Yeru Bao Hinu,-92.53125,8.40625,-33.84375
Yuggsanawyddis,-150.96875,67.03125,-37.8125
Yugusitanitou,-77.09375,58.59375,-52.9375
Zangi,42.0625,55.6875,-9.9375
Zaraluvul,-4.875,64.21875,-0.8125
Zenmaku,-90.46875,19.375,-62.71875
Zombardgriti,-132.28125,31.40625,-39.625
Zombo,-139.5625,30.375,-20.90625
Zopiates,-145.0625,63.28125,-33.875
Zosma,16.0625,53.875,-15.84375

4. The following are B2 systems we had been given or mostly sourced through the efforts of this thread, that are NOT currently in the B3 list. NB the Wredguia... systems are left out. FD forums keeps telling me something in there is not allowed - thinks its an 'unsuitable' word. For the life of me I can't find out which in the time I have now

Spoiler

14 Herculis,-36.71875,41.6875,14.125
16 Cephei,-108,30.03125,-42.25
21 Eta Ursae Minoris,-74.625,56.25,-26
23 H. Camelopardalis,-37,26.25,-36.625
2Mass 1503+2525,-6.1875,18,8.125
36 Draconis,-65.6875,35.375,-4.59375
4 Cephei,-132.09375,35.5,-27.875
59 Draconis,-76.4375,38.21875,-25.0625
72 Herculis,-32.875,24.6875,22.21875
86 Mu Herculis,-19.5,11.53125,14.875
Achenar,67.5,-119.46875,24.84375
Ackycha,-29.03125,39.8125,-25.03125
Adepti,-74.09375,36.5625,-40.1875
ADS 10329,-61.53125,45.78125,1.5
Aeolus,-43.28125,37.28125,-31.53125
AGKR 199,-87,35.5,-53.875
Aktzin,-51.78125,23.9375,-29.40625
Alderamin,-47.5,7.84375,-9.46875
Alkurhah,-96.75,13.21875,-28.53125
Alpha Cygni,-1405,46.09375,132.5
Alphard,138.84375,88.46875,-73.5
Altais,-88.625,38.09375,-13.65625
Andjeri,-87,28.90625,-28.46875
Apep,-42.8125,46.9375,-38
Apishim,-62.71875,20.28125,-39.15625
Arabha,-120.75,43.78125,-22.125
Aurea,-88,23.53125,-8.28125
Austern,-25.15625,15.34375,9.375
Avici,-5.75,42.53125,8.28125
Ba Bhumiang Ku,-104.28125,25.0625,-45.25
Bangati,-85.21875,56.28125,-35.125
Basium,-71.25,49.875,-30.21875
BD+69 45,-58.59375,9.625,-38.15625
BD+74 938,-106.59375,33.78125,-43.09375
BD+75 58,-43.5625,13.46875,-30.46875
BD+81 297,-47.03125,41.0625,-41.8125
Beta Comae Berenices,-1.6875,29.65625,2.03125
Beurex,-1.65625,28.53125,-7.84375
Bidmere,-7.4375,13.21875,1.90625
Boro Kacharis,-27.125,18.90625,-25.875
BY Draconis,-48.3125,21.1875,7.9375
Caer Bran,-31.28125,14.3125,13.78125
Chemetitana,-83.34375,8.84375,-27.875
Chirichianco,-114.0625,8.25,-43.84375
Clotti,-88.03125,47.1875,-6.15625
Connla,-29.90625,14.5625,13.65625
Coquenchis,-62.78125,23.09375,-36.4375
CR Draconis,-48.3125,46.15625,4.46875
Culann,-36.0625,14.625,13.8125
CW Ursae Majoris,2.65625,36.78125,-14.90625
DE Bootis,-7.4375,32.625,17
Devi,-10.28125,52.1875,18.15625
DG Canum Venaticorum,-3.125,25.53125,2.6875
Dharai,-70.9375,32.34375,-14.21875
DN Draconis,-27.09375,21.625,0.78125
DP Draconis,-17.5,25.96875,-11.375
Dziban,-62.15625,38.46875,-14.3125
Elphin,-30.125,8.1875,-17
Enif,-536.59375,-363.03125,236.1875
Enlil,-37.5625,39.09375,-39.40625
Eos,-51.875,16.78125,-0.375
Er Lo Wu Di,-83.03125,19.84375,-59.78125
Eta Cephei,-45.125,9.375,-6.4375
Eta Coronae Borealis,-23.78125,48.4375,21.9375
Etamin,-132.46875,74.875,25.53125
G 148-13,-0.40625,27.09375,-7.0625
G 202-48,-15.53125,14.375,1.875
G 203-51,-15.875,12.03125,5.34375
G 205-38,-51.65625,19.125,11.40625
G 230-27,-58.125,11.4375,2.6875
G 262-26,-66.09375,15.8125,-11.625
GCRV 13292,-99.84375,27.5625,-28.1875
GD 319,-19.375,43.625,-12.75
GD 356,-50.9375,44.15625,7.3125
Gliese 3050,-99.71875,28.09375,-64.15625
Gweir,3.125,31.75,-11.625
Haras,-118.75,14.40625,-21.40625
Harpulo,-75.375,40.28125,-0.46875
Hemsut,-53.875,16.6875,-10.125
Hepa,-29.4375,34.46875,21.53125
Hera,-36.8125,55.59375,-17.96875
Hermitage,-28.75,25,10.4375
HIP 103014,-132.46875,33.25,-28.5625
HIP 105906,-114.40625,51.40625,-56.125
HIP 105992,-121,21.375,-28.59375
HIP 106882,-115.65625,49,-55.5625
HIP 108110,-122.625,22,-37.34375
HIP 111494,-106.9375,30.0625,-48.4375
HIP 115777,-107.125,32.28125,-57.53125
HIP 4041,-106.15625,36.40625,-69.3125
HIP 7338,-96.5,33.21875,-68.65625
HIP 93119,-113.5625,57.40625,-33.9375
HIP 94802,-114.59375,51.40625,-25.90625
HR 158,-85.875,36.90625,-55.09375
HR 8133,-133.875,26.28125,-28.96875
Hsini,-81.75,15.59375,-46.78125
Iota Cephei,-106.75,12.6875,-41.71875
IZ Bootis,-23.625,61.71875,7.9375
Jaoismonjin,-83.90625,33,-53.5625
Jieguaje,-85.25,16.9375,-4
Jurua,-60.84375,23.84375,-50.75
Kambalua,-62.90625,15.34375,-44.21875
Killke,-108,8.5625,-31.15625
KUI 47,-38.9375,43.5625,-38.96875
Kulkanabossongma,-106.125,18.46875,-58.03125
Kuunggati,-85.40625,18.375,-29.53125
Kwaraseti,-53.5,33.75,-39.875
Laima,-46.03125,36.8125,14.125
Lawd 86,-60.40625,18.71875,-21.6875
LB 2449,-26.0625,51.625,-17.40625
LDS 1503,-51.78125,19.90625,-31.71875
LDS 1503A,-43.46875,16.4375,-26.46875
LFT 1073,-38.9375,32.5625,-21.65625
LFT 1361,-38.78125,24.71875,-0.5
LFT 1487,-55,15.15625,4.4375
LFT 19,-56.28125,7.875,-32.28125
LFT 668,-19.03125,25.65625,-24.21875
LFT 671,-17.875,24.09375,-22.71875
LFT 679,-29.8125,31.53125,-30.21875
LFT 747,-15.1875,43.1875,-26.90625
LFT 898,-8.6875,49.75,-11.03125
LHS 2126,-19.59375,22.25,-22.96875
LHS 2191,-13.03125,28.3125,-25.5
LHS 2211,-12.53125,24.28125,-21
LHS 2459,-11,10.78125,-8.21875
LHS 2522,-24.8125,56.53125,-23.4375
LHS 256,-18,21.4375,-24.0625
LHS 2610,-41.3125,40.4375,-27.375
LHS 293,1.84375,28.3125,-14.4375
LHS 2948,-21.6875,60.4375,15.09375
LHS 3075,-34.875,51.875,12.90625
LHS 3080,-21.625,42.90625,21.375
LHS 3124,-26.28125,43.4375,24.1875
LHS 316,-5.875,24.40625,-9.34375
LHS 3281,-30.8125,22.5,13.25
LHS 3297,-36.46875,22.6875,-16.53125
LHS 3343,-38.9375,21.5625,11.4375
LHS 3409,-59.78125,24.375,8.53125
LHS 3461,-31.34375,14.71875,-9.71875
LHS 350,-1.46875,44.59375,5.75
LHS 3558,-24.8125,6.78125,-4.4375
LHS 362,-3.21875,38.03125,8.40625
LHS 3749,-69.5625,12.46875,-22.4375
LHS 396,-9.875,30.84375,20.46875
LHS 399,-13.5625,36.15625,25.78125
LHS 446,-44.3125,31.625,11.15625
LHS 455,-16.90625,10.21875,-3.4375
LHS 457,-31.75,16.65625,15.5
LHS 465,-23.9375,12.21875,-0.625
LHS 494,-50.5625,11.46875,-6.1875
LHS 534,-58.21875,11.90625,-26.9375
LHS 535,-46.625,6.84375,-20.4375
LHS 6354,-65.28125,27.34375,-16.125
Loucetios,-21.4375,58.0625,-10.15625
LP 103-294,-37.1875,19,-0.1875
LP 180-17,-56.84375,37.71875,12.71875
LP 229-17,-23.03125,9.03125,8.96875
LP 25-2,-48.9375,27.25,-19.5625
LP 271-25,-10.46875,31.84375,7.3125
LP 274-8,-29.71875,45,20.28125
LP 275-68,-23.34375,25.0625,15.1875
LP 329-18,-26.625,39.875,23.28125
LP 336-6,-23.46875,5.09375,11.4375
LP 378-541,1.1875,20.71875,2.34375
LP 386-49,-25.53125,33.375,26
LP 4-258,-46.875,32.1875,-37.21875
LP 438-8,2,40.25,10.3125
LP 440-38,-4.65625,43.78125,20.6875
LP 5-110,-51.5625,37.21875,-41.375
LP 62-147,-20.5,38.5,-30.3125
LP 625-34,-9.46875,17.8125,30.4375
LP 71-165,-20.90625,11.09375,-2.21875
LP 7-226,-42.78125,31.75,-27.25
LP 9-231,-42.15625,25.53125,-19.59375
LTT 10533,-76.9375,34.65625,-52.875
LTT 14474,-68,60.46875,-28.40625
LTT 14542,-57.21875,57.84375,-14.625
LTT 14761,-72.3125,60.96875,-19.28125
LTT 16016,-62.53125,12.375,-5.5
LTT 17102,-73.84375,16.5625,-45.59375
LTT 18432,-59.21875,44.84375,-22.6875
LTT 18506,-70.84375,20.25,-18.09375
LTT 18528,-99.375,17.6875,-24.5625
LTT 18557,-59.875,19.15625,-25.28125
Lugiu Bezelana,-126.15625,44.5625,-33.1875
Maidubii,-115.4375,11.90625,-60.875
Manamaya,-43.53125,35.03125,-19.15625
Marcov's Point,-22.34375,14.625,17.65625
MCC 813,-78.625,21.46875,-3.125
Medusa,-67.96875,42.5,-14.5
Men Samit,-120.375,55.6875,-40.6875
Merki,-81.625,50.625,-19.28125
Mirphak,-274.96875,-47.625,-422.65625
Mistae,-72.34375,56.6875,-24.8125
Mistana,-103.125,27.6875,-61.84375
Mormo,-98.3125,43.1875,-45.21875
MS Draconis,-72.71875,45.40625,-5.875
Nanauatzin,-3.40625,51.65625,3.78125
Nguruai Trimpaso,-84.46875,54.625,-22.375
Nimba,-71.5625,42.96875,-4.84375
Njirika,-117.46875,36.28125,-15.40625
NLTT 42620,-61.78125,46.28125,-21.53125
NLTT 44050,-57.46875,38.8125,-21.09375
NLTT 46629,-67.34375,38.21875,-25.9375
NLTT 47491,-89,47.125,-35.25
NLTT 49528,-72.625,18.5,-11.75
NSV 4864,-46.09375,38.625,-36.0625
Nyon T'ao Wujin,-81.71875,58.8125,-35.28125
Omega Draconis,-63.375,39.90625,-10.125
Pareco,-78.8125,30.34375,2.90625
Pata Thewi,-108.46875,52.0625,-27.34375
Perkwunos,-40.5,46.75,6.75
PI-1 Ursae Minoris,-52.1875,39.75,-24.96875
Polaris,-322.6875,194.59375,-212.4375
Poqomathi,-101.40625,24.65625,-69.5625
Reiene Maorai,-99.75,39.125,-16.84375
Rho Coronae Borealis,-29.875,42.09375,22.21875
Rigel,385.78125,-360.40625,-682.53125
Ross 1007,-8.34375,54.71875,1.9375
Ross 1008,-8.71875,51.5625,1.5
Ross 1019,-15,55.03125,4.28125
Ross 1069,-50.53125,10.625,1.03125
Ross 52,-8.4375,29.15625,13.3125
Ross 640,-31.6875,35.125,18.9375
Ross 676,-83.1875,4.84375,-40.8125
Ross 690,-28.40625,47.8125,-21.96875
Ross 837,1.8125,39.9375,15.53125
Ross 868,-24.6875,19.125,21.3125
San Guaralaru,-124.34375,41.8125,-60.71875
SDSS J1416+1348,-0.6875,27.15625,12
Sol,0,0,0
StKM 1-1379,-81.84375,59.3125,-27.96875
StKM 1-1676,-74.875,31.75,-5.96875
Sumi,-59.53125,16.4375,-37.6875
SZ Ursae Majoris,-13.0625,21.96875,-13.875
Tai Qing,-70.90625,50.75,-4.09375
Tapari,-66.4375,32.125,-31
Tapipinouphinien,-63.90625,19.84375,-49.1875
Taran,-42.5,45.46875,-3
Taranis,-52.53125,18.46875,-28.6875
Taurawa,-98.125,21.84375,-13.09375
Thaumas,-50.4375,62.71875,-6.6875
Theta Draconis,-48.9375,48.09375,0.03125
Titicate,-122.5,10.09375,-36.96875
Toyota,-67.0625,52.625,-37.375
Tring,-125.375,9.5,-47.96875
Trua,-87.46875,12.9375,-38.3125
Vaccimici,-33.21875,37.34375,12.75
Veren's stop,-12.96875,21.96875,20.28125
VW Cephi,-79.6875,31.03125,-28
WISE 1405+5534,-8.03125,13.4375,-1.84375
WISE 1647+5632,-21.59375,17.71875,1.75
Wolf 1084,-51,7.09375,-2.1875
Wolf 654,-28.46875,22.40625,14.8125
.....Wredguia's here
WREGOE AC-D D12-135,-14.96875,54.1875,-14.3125
WREGOE MK-Q B46-2,-56,44.46875,-43.5625
WREGOE QA-Q B46-6,-54.34375,18.25,-36.34375
WREGOE SB-N B48-1,-47.03125,57.59375,-8.5625
WREGOE WV-E D11-104,-45.4375,31.3125,-25.125
WREGOE WV-E D11-120,-14.28125,54.84375,-20.8125
Wunjo,-65,53.3125,-22.59375
Yinfu,-39.9375,16.1875,-10.6875
Youdu,-7.84375,33.875,-26.125
Zhu Rong,-39.875,34.9375,-24.1875
Zosia,-62.625,25.5625,-30.09375

OK, so there are a lot of things to iron out. We could potentially merge what we have with B3 with what's in B2 to get quite a large list straight away. But considering a good proportion of the original B2 coords do not match new B3 coords where the names overlap, then we may not be able to trust the other B2 coords either, and would need to re-check all.

Or, as Wolverine (Ithink) mentioned, maybe we just have to use this data for testing purposes now, and expect to have to start again in gamma/live?

Anyway something to discuss....

<discalimer> I haven't had a chance to double check the data in the spoilers here - so this is by no means anything near definitive - mainly to illustrate our options...

 

[RedWizzard]

RW. For me and perhaps others The One Reference (TOR) is what is in your git repository, file systems.json. That way we are sure we have the latest version. Frpm that an official TD CSV can be created. Would it be possible for you to double check Harbingers list and change the systems.json in your repository. The list actually looks pretty good.

That's my plan. Hopefully I can get an updated version done tomorrow (i.e. in about 24 hours).

 

[Little Angel]

There seem to be a couple CSV lists with around 700+ stars in the thread.

I'll probably grab one at random that I can use to test with, as it's about double the current B2 list.

Not sure what beta 2 list you're looking at. The current beta 2 list is 572 systems IIRC, plus a dozen or so more out of the beta 2 pill. The beta 3 reference list is only about 30% larger than that.

TBH: I'm not sure how you are keeping track of this.

What I probably should have said was:
"I have Michael Brookes' original list of B2 star systems. The lists being posted here on this thread have many more than the 300 and so stars from that original list, so I'll probably just grab one to test with."

And I did!

As it stands, my data importer works fine with any updated CSV file. The file slots in and the stars are there. I just needed to adjust my starting position from near origin to someplace way out in space to accommodate the apparent shift in coordinates.

-

If there is anything I can do to help, let me know - like find a way to use distributed copies of the map to gather data - as I'm happy do try and do that.

 

[RedWizzard]

2. The following B3 systems do NOT match the coordinates we have for B2. Note the CSV has 6 coordinate points. The 3 first ones are the old B2 coords, and the second 3 are the delta to the new B3 coords. Note also, these are not just rounding differences, they are significant LY differences. Ie, the systems have moved between beta's.

That matches the list I came up with.

OK, so there are a lot of things to iron out. We could potentially merge what we have with B3 with what's in B2 to get quite a large list straight away. But considering a good proportion of the original B2 coords do not match new B3 coords where the names overlap, then we may not be able to trust the other B2 coords either, and would need to re-check all.

Or, as Wolverine (Ithink) mentioned, maybe we just have to use this data for testing purposes now, and expect to have to start again in gamma/live?

Yes, they all need to be rechecked. I think it should be enough to check one or two distances are as expected.

Michael said the galaxy regeneration will probably change for gamma so I don't think we should worry about getting too much data before then.

 

[Athan]

@RedWizzard. Just downloaded the file in TOR format created by Harbinger, post #988. It shows 767 systems. Twelve outside the pill. Hence according to that list we have indeed 755 systems with economies. 755/2406=0,31. Hence we now know that ONLY approx 31% of systems in the current bubble/pill/sausage have an economie - I interpret that as having a station/platform in it, hopefully this time I got it right. Hence 69% is without one. Lots of space to explore. Harbinger: GREAT WORK, thanks.

If it helps any, I can tell you that a lot of the 'left-hand' end of the pill is indeed empty of any stations. There's an awful lot of stars there that are procedurally generated, and even the 'properly named' ones tend to be unexplored and no stations. You can get about 50ly beyond the pill outline graphic (as it's bugged), but also need to get about 1/5th if not 1/4 back into it before you find stations again.

Yes, I went as far as you can: https://www.flickr.com/photos/8823090@N03/15482364030

 

[Harbinger]

The galaxy centric coords don't appear to match the dump.

e.g. mizar:
From the dump: 49950.78 41053.84 24090.91
From your systems.json: 49950.75, 41053.8125, 24090.90625

The correct coordinates should be 49950.78125 41053.84375 24090.90625

Probably due to the rounding method suggested to take it back to 1/32. I should have just stuck with my original implementation of running a while loop and checking if the remainder was x/32 rounded to 2 d.p. and then reverting it to what it should be.

@Harbinger: Your tool seems to have a problem with ISO timestamps.

"contributed": "2014-30-10T16:37:00.000Z"

My bad, could have sworn the positions of month and day were reversed compared to the TradeDangerous format when I looked at RedWizzard's list.

I'll regenerate them ASAP.

 

[gazelle]

Probably due to the rounding method suggested to take it back to 1/32. I should have just stuck with my original implementation of running a while loop and checking if the remainder was x/32 rounded to 2 d.p. and then reverting it to what it should be.

More like you didn't use the suggested rounding before the truncation:

Mizar FD:          49950.78     41053.84     24090.91
trunc(32x+1/2)/32: 49950.78125  41053.84375  24090.90625
trunc(32x)/32:     49950.75     41053.8125   24090.90625

 

[Harbinger]

More like you didn't use the suggested rounding before the truncation:

Mizar FD:          49950.78     41053.84     24090.91
trunc(32x+1/2)/32: 49950.78125  41053.84375  24090.90625
trunc(32x)/32:     49950.75     41053.8125   24090.90625

Actually you're incorrect. In my last implementation I used trunc(32x+1/2)/32 although it is possible I made a typo somewhere. I've since deleted the section of code in favour of my first instinct to run a while loop so I guess we'll never know for sure.

Here is the generated data from my while loop solution:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_GOSqs6Iq2MV1VXUlBSekRzUDA/view?usp=sharing

Feel free to peruse it for errors.

 

[gazelle]

Then maybe you just posted the wrong link or used the wrong file to paste or ...

Using a while loop to determine the decimal places wouldn't be my first choice if there is a simpler solution. But that's just my opinion, whatever works for you.

 

[Harbinger]

Then maybe you just posted the wrong link or used the wrong file to paste or ...

I must have updated each of those files 10 times last night, it's equally possible that mizar was looking at an old version.

 

[gazelle]

The real problem right now is the double use of system names as Athan pointed out in post #986. Shouldn't they be unique?

@wolverine2710: Have you asked Michael Brookes about that?

 

[Harbinger]

I'd expect it's a bug. Anyone know if Athan put in a ticket?

 

[Biteketkergetek]

I would not be surprised if duplicate names would not be a bug. There supposed to be 200-400 billion stars in the galaxy, duplicates need to turn up if they are far apart.

For my own use I figured out a method of identifying them, by adding their coordinates to the name. Perhaps another method based on the octant they are in would be even better (so a minor coordinate change would not change the value). Maybe we need to be prepared for that. Even for our the tools this would not be a problem, if we find 10 coordinates for a system, and half of the distances show one position, and the other half a completely distinct one, this could even be automatically recognised. Just another interesting programming task.

 

[Elgar]

Hiho,

just on a sidenote, have you seen this site? http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/100000-stars/

You need a browser with WebGL like Chrome or Firefox in the newer versions. It renders a galaxy map with the 100k stars from a combination of Hipparcos, Yale Bright Star Catalog, and Gliese/Jahreiss Catalog.

 

[TornSoul]

Sol centric vs Galaxy centric

I might have missed something (entirely possible), but I don't quite understand the need for converting the SB3 coordinates to being Sol-centric again.

Imo it seems better to stay with whatever FD uses - We might get future info dumps, or some stuff might even turn up ingame or... whatever.
Ie. it seems to me using the galaxy centric coords are more "future-proof".

So why are people gravitating towards Sol centric coordinates (or I'm I just miss interpreting that)