What do think is coming to Planet Zoo this month?

[12344321]

I would call it realism if there were any evidence of such "situation". Absolutely nothing indicate that the support is ending and if you believe it is just because they did not announce new update EXACTLY after 3 months since last dlc then it IS a pessimism.

1) There's been absolute silence from PZ regarding future dlc (ex: no mention of future themes or animals have been announced AND Steamdb went silent)

2) There have been persistent rumors that Planet Zoo IS ending support very soon lol

3) Also, like you pointed out it has been 3 months since the last dlc...and still no teaser, no announcements, and no leaks literally no word about a new dlc.

So is that pessimistic to take into account all of that information and then make a decision based on it?

You are very confident there will be Fall dlc.

Can I ask what is your proof? There are a lot of North American species still missing in PZ. But that's not proof of Fall dlc. I could have said that in November 2019.

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

Cries in western asia

We will hopefully get there buddy

 

[random goat]

But we are already in that situation, right? The SEA animal pack has happened. Was that pack unfair to South America and Australia then? South America got three additional animals, so have they catched up?

It kinda was tbh. It felt good to have 8 animals at once but it felt like other continents were being a bit neglected in the way. I wouldn't say SA has caught up because ideally it should have a bigger share in the animal roster given its vast biodiversity. It probably will with future packs (and presumably so will NA and Europe).

And I'll say it again (not directed at you from now on, Aramar). Even I have discussed with Electric Monk on several occasions about the suitability of a Europe or Eurasia pack, but none of us is saying that Europe doesn't deserve its share of at least 4 new animals, even 5-6 if it's an animal pack.

But, here's how things stand now (leaving exhibit animals out of the equation, cause who cares):

-North America: 9 animals
-Europe: 5 animals
-South and Central America: 9 animals
-Australia: 5 animals
-Asia: 26 animals.
Most of these are from India, China and South East Asia. However, all the Middle-East and Central-North Asia is a different story. From Turkey to Korea, including the whole Middle-East, all the Central Asia republics and essentially everything north of the Himalayas to Siberia including Mongolia and Northern China have very little representation too.
-Middle-East to Siberia: 5 animals.


We want more European animals? Hell yeah. But let's not be blind about how each region in the world is represented in PZ right now. Even being European myself, I'd find it a bit odd to request 7 habitat animals from Europe while other regions with at least as much biodiversity are also being underrepresented, with the same chances to get more animals in the future.

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

It kinda was tbh. It felt good to have 8 animals at once but it felt like other continents were being a bit neglected in the way. I wouldn't say SA has caught up because ideally it should have a bigger share in the animal roster given its vast biodiversity. It probably will with future packs (and presumably so will NA and Europe).

And I'll say it again. Even I have discussed with Electric Monk on several occasions about the suitability of a Europe or Eurasia pack, but none of us is saying that Europe doesn't deserve its share of at least 4 new animals, even 5-6 if it's an animal pack.

But, here's how things stand now (leaving exhibit animals out of the equation, cause who cares):

-North America: 9 animals
-Europe: 6 animals
-South and Central America: 8 animals
-Australia: 5 animals
-Asia: 26 animals.
Most of these are from India, China and South East Asia. However, all the Middle-East and Central-North Asia is a different story. From Turkey to Korea, including the whole Middle-East, all the Central Asia republics and essentially everything north of the Himalayas to Siberia including Mongolia and Northern China have very little representation too.
-Middle-East to Siberia: 5 animals.


We want more European animals? Hell yeah. But let's not be blind about how each region in the world is represented in PZ right now. Even being European myself, I'd find it a bit odd to request 7 habitat animals from Europe while other regions with at least as much biodiversity are also being underrepresented, with the same chances to get more animals in the future.

Thats not wrong, but you yourself pointed the thing out about northern asia, somewhere many european animals spread into. Red and fallow deer, as well as the badger spread into mesopotamia, wolverines, lynx, roe deer and moose would spread all over russia and the colder regions, the wild boar and the fox just own the entirety of eurasia, it really would help that selection as well + in many cases northamerica if we would get 7 european animals. It would just help alot overall, because the thing this game is missing the most, are animals from colder climates, which mostly also spread over most of the northern hemisphere, so getting some of them would help alot for all kind of regional zoos.

Like did you guys know, how many subspecies of the red fox and the wildboar exist? They span massive ranges, making their nominal forms huge additons to the game.
But i dare you frontier, dont do them dirty like you did the asiatic black bear, dont do it pls

 

[FoxyDee]

1) Absolute silence from PZ regarding future dlc (ex: no future themes, animals announced AND Steamdb went silent)

2) Persistent rumors that Planet Zoo IS ending support lol

3) It's been 3 months like you said and still no teaser, no announcements, no leaks literally nothing.

So is that pessimistic to take into account all of that information and then make a decision based on it?

You are very confident what is your proof there will be Fall dlc? Other than you "wish" it will happen? There's a lot of North American species in PZ. But that's not proof of Fall dlc. I could have said that in November 2019.

1) Frontier NEVER announeced any future themes,animals or content too in advance. It was always right before the update. AND the reason why Steamdb went silent is that Steamdb recently undergo a change that causes every unreleased app to be hidden.

2) Rumors,...seriously? Again, we have been through this before, there were rumours PZ is ending right after SEA because youtubers were getting low views - surprise people were just bored of their videos. Another one was that PZ is ending because releaseing animal pack surely means no more scenery packs will bne released and that means PZ is wrapping things up - also proven wrong.

3) Exactly, its has been just 3 months. Frontier NEVER said DLCs will release EXACTLY every 3 months. Anything could happen, a sudden bug that they have to fix before release, something is not finished yet to be released so they said lets wait another week, or they simply planned it at later date this time, another dozen reasons might happen.

As I already replied to you, right after Africa, content folders for at least 2 more DLCs were found in the game files. That is surely a bigger proof than your rumours.

 

[random goat]

Thats not wrong, but you yourself pointed the thing out about northern asia, somewhere many european animals spread into. Red and fallow deer, as well as the badger spread into mesopotamia, wolverines, lynx, roe deer and moose would spread all over russia and the colder regions, the wild boar and the fox just own the entirety of eurasia, it really would help that selection as well + in many cases northamerica if we would get 7 european animals. It would just help alot overall, because the thing this game is missing the most, are animals from colder climates, which mostly also spread over most of the northern hemisphere, so getting some of them would help alot for all kind of regional zoos.

Like did you guys know, how many subspecies of the red fox and the wildboar exist? They span massive ranges, making their nominal forms huge additons to the game.
But i dare you frontier, dont do them dirty like you did the asiatic black bear, dont do it pls

Yeah and I agree with that. Many potential European animals would also represent this region.
But I don't get all the fuss about getting just 1 or 2 animals from this Asian region on top of 5-6 European ones. I don't think it's such a big deal tbh.
It'd still mean Europe having around 12 habitat animals in-game. I don't think that's a bad number if we have in mind the biodiversity of each continent and that official support won't last forever.

 

[random goat]

1) Frontier NEVER announeced any future themes,animals or content too in advance. It was always right before the update. AND the reason why Steamdb went silent is that Steamdb recently undergo a change that causes every unreleased app to be hidden.

2) Rumors,...seriously? Again, we have been through this before, there were rumours PZ is ending right after SEA because youtubers were getting low views - surprise people were just bored by it. ANother one was that PZ is ending because releaseing animal pack surely means no more scenery packs will bne released and that means PZ is wrapping things up - also proven wrong.

3) Exactly, its has been just 3 months. Frontier NEVER said DLCs will release EXACTLY every 3 months. Anything could happen, a sudden bug that they have to fix before release, something is not finished yet to be released so they said lets wait another week, or they simply planned it at later date this time, another dozen reasons might happen.

As I already replied to you, right after Africa, content folders for at least 2 more DLCs were found in the game files. That is surely a bigger proof than your rumours.

To add on this post:

1) On top of the two DLC folders found in the game files, there was an official Frontier report not too long ago indicating that PZ development will at least last until Spring 2022.

2) Nothing has changed since last Friday. We can still get a Feature Focus post this Thursday, Update announcement next Monday and DLC announcement next Tuesday for a release on the 28th September. Just be patient!

 

[Aramar]

-Europe: 6 animals
-South and Central America: 8 animals

My game has a different number of animals than yours

I have only 5 European animals (counting the polar bear) and 9 South American (counting the king penguin, because if you count the bear, you must count the penguin too).

 

[12344321]

To add on this post:

1) On top of the two DLC folders found in the game files, there was an official Frontier report not too long ago indicating that PZ development will at least last until Spring 2022.

2) Nothing has changed since last Friday. We can still get a Feature Focus post this Thursday, Update announcement next Monday and DLC announcement next Tuesday for a release on the 28th September. Just be patient!

I hope you are right....


Each day that gets a little closer, I am preparing for disappointment in case they don't announce one. Because each day that passes by without any word it seems like we aren't getting one.


Does each day that passes with silence make you think the opposite?

 

[12344321]

1) Frontier NEVER announeced any future themes,animals or content too in advance. It was always right before the update. AND the reason why Steamdb went silent is that Steamdb recently undergo a change that causes every unreleased app to be hidden.

2) Rumors,...seriously? Again, we have been through this before, there were rumours PZ is ending right after SEA because youtubers were getting low views - surprise people were just bored of their videos. Another one was that PZ is ending because releaseing animal pack surely means no more scenery packs will bne released and that means PZ is wrapping things up - also proven wrong.

3) Exactly, its has been just 3 months. Frontier NEVER said DLCs will release EXACTLY every 3 months. Anything could happen, a sudden bug that they have to fix before release, something is not finished yet to be released so they said lets wait another week, or they simply planned it at later date this time, another dozen reasons might happen.

As I already replied to you, right after Africa, content folders for at least 2 more DLCs were found in the game files. That is surely a bigger proof than your rumours.

I hope you are right


Each day that gets a little closer, I am preparing for disappointment in case they don't announce one. Because each day that passes by without any word it seems like we aren't getting one.


Does each day that passes with silence make you think the opposite? It just feels like blind optimism from you. But that's allowed, because to each their own We happen to feel differently.

 

[random goat]

My game has a different number of animals than yours

I have only 5 European animals (counting the polar bear) and 9 South American (counting the king penguin, because if you count the bear, you must count the penguin too).

My bad, I always thought that the in-game brown bear was the standard Ursus arctos, but it's in fact the Grizzly subspecies.
Polar bears can be considered European animals as they inhabit Greenland and Svalbard islands. But you're right that king penguins can also be considered South American to some degree. I edited my post accordingly.
My point still stands though.

 

[Laura_91]

That’s completely subjective unless you have access to extensive market research on the matter.

Europe, including the UK is full of zoos with animals like Eurasian and Iberian lynx, wild boar, wisent, various deer species including moose/elk and more. They are found in all kinds of zoos from city zoos like Amsterdam to specialised collections in the Alps or Scandinavia.

In the UK alone there are around 28 zoos with lynx and 28 with fallow deer - that’s not counting deer parks or stately homes with just deer in their grounds. The UK also has zoos specialising in European/British wildlife like the British Wildlife Centre in Surrey, Wildwood in Kent and the New Forest Wildlife Park. Then there is the amazing (never visited but one day…) Highland Wildlife Park with wolverine, Eurasian elk, red deer, Finnish forest reindeer, grey wolf, wisent, lynx, Arctic fox and many more species from colder parts of Asia.

European species are definitely zoo species.

I live in the countryside. Some of the requested animals are just animals I see out and about. I dont think ive ever seen a red fox in a zoo but I have in a farmers field. This seems to be highly requested. And maybe deer in places that have large grassland rather than enclosures.
I think it all depends on where you come from and what you see as normal. I know some zoos breed British wildlife but this is normally behind the scenes and not on public show. I know chester part of a breeding/release program for Scottish wildcats. But you can't see these as they don't want them to get used to humans.

I'd still probably just buy the pack just for more animals but some of the requested animals I maybe wouldn't use so much.

 

[Doran]

As I already replied to you, right after Africa, content folders for at least 2 more DLCs were found in the game files. That is surely a bigger proof than your rumours.

According to rumours these dlcs are connected to Africa Pack in way that Frontier went to San Diego to look for content up to 3 packs and Africa is first of them. This why probably remaining 2 are in files as GameContent7 and 8, because they were doing all of them at the same time, when they back to Britain. Next dlc should come soon, but apparently they postponed it for a week (like australia dlc). 14th September was supposed to be that big day, but it is probably going to be the 21th. Anyway we should wait and see what will come.

 

[DarthQuell]

14th September was supposed to be that big day, but it is probably going to be the 21th. Anyway we should wait and see what will come.

Wait, was there an announcement? I wanna see that, if so

 

[Doran]

Wait, was there an announcement? I wanna see that, if so

Announcement should be on 21th. So next week and release at 28th.

 

[DarthQuell]

I did the math. Let's assume 28th release, right? So, if the DLC is announced this Thursday, we'll have more than enough time to showcase 8, if it's an animal pack.

Otherwise, anything afterward I guess would be a standard pack

 

[markun]

I live in the countryside. Some of the requested animals are just animals I see out and about. I dont think ive ever seen a red fox in a zoo but I have in a farmers field. This seems to be highly requested. And maybe deer in places that have large grassland rather than enclosures.
I think it all depends on where you come from and what you see as normal. I know some zoos breed British wildlife but this is normally behind the scenes and not on public show. I know chester part of a breeding/release program for Scottish wildcats. But you can't see these as they don't want them to get used to humans.

I'd still probably just buy the pack just for more animals but some of the requested animals I maybe wouldn't use so much.

18 collections hold red foxes in the UK. 29 hold Scottish wildcats, many have them on display. As I said, quite a few UK zoos have British wildlife on display including those listed to name a few. I have just listed a selection of the mammals they have. Many of those specialising in UK wildlife also have species from other parts of Europe too, many of which were once found in Britain such as bears and wolves.

• Wildwood in Kent which has wildcats (on display), badgers, red fox, red deer, red squirrel, pine marten, fallow deer, otter, beaver, wild boar and more
• British Wildlife Centre in Surrey with red fox, badgers, otters, red squirrel, wildcats (on display), pine martens, fallow deer, red deer, roe deer and more
• New Forest Wildlife Park in Hampshire with wildcats (on display), red fox, badgers, otters, fallow deer, red deer, roe deer, wild boar as well as other more exotic animals like giant otters.
• Northumberland Country Zoo has fallow deer and wildcats (on display).
• Welsh Mountain Zoo in North Wales has fallow deer and pine martens.
• Five Sisters Zoo in West Lothian has badgers, wildcats (on display) and muntjac deer (introduced but of course found wild in the UK)

There's even a zoo in Sweden where you can see (in theory, they were sleeping or hiding somewhere when I visited) Scottish wildcats.

I guess seeing things out and about can make them either not very interesting or extra interesting for someone. I have seen wild elk, roe deer, reindeer (technically domesticated but just wandering around the forest or on the road) beaver, foxes, seals, cranes and more. I have seen them in the wild but also in zoos and I really wish I could build a zoo with those animals I have seen. At least a few of them.

 

[biggest_dreamer]

Next dlc should come soon, but apparently they postponed it for a week (like australia dlc). 14th September was supposed to be that big day, but it is probably going to be the 21th.

I don't doubt that there's a solid chance that the 21st is the announcement date, but what's this about a delay being based off of?


Honestly, reading these last few pages, it just solidifies in my mind how much we really ought to get animal packs for both NA and Europe. Split the shared species between the two, and then just go all out for the rest of them letting both of the most player-heavy regions of the world get as much local wildlife as possible. I think we're all feeling starved for local wildlife at this point. I mean, even though NA has an okay-ish number of animals on paper, there's still absolutely nothing from the eastern half of the US. Almost nothing I'd ever even see in nearby zoos (grizzlies being the only notable exception), or especially in the wild or those with a focus on local wildlife. So I totally get the desire from both sides here.

 

[Antimony96]

Worst case scenario is exactly what Frontier's told us--the minimum of continuing support through FY22, or a minimum of two remaining packs (NA/aviary?). But interviews and recent hirings suggest that Planet Zoo DLC will have a somewhat longer lifespan than Planet Coaster's--best case scenario is support through 2024, probably.

@Doran are you speculating re:the dates or do you have actual information?

 

[ElectricMonk]

1) There's been absolute silence from PZ regarding future dlc (ex: no mention of future themes or animals have been announced AND Steamdb went silent)

There has never been anything other than silence from Frontier regarding future dlc since launch. Steam changed its system so that steamdb no longer gives indications of upcoming dlc - it’s nothing to do with Frontier and applied to all games on Steam.

2) There have been persistent rumors that Planet Zoo IS ending support very soon lol

Those rumours have very little to support them but official info from Frontier (as others have noted) demonstrates at least 2 more packs, probably more, given that they’ve hired new staff specifically for the game.

3) Also, like you pointed out it has been 3 months since the last dlc...and still no teaser, no announcements, and no leaks literally no word about a new dlc.

And….? It’s only just 3 months and the pattern isn’t very well established anyway, certainly not enough to say that it’s particularly late coming at this stage.

So is that pessimistic to take into account all of that information and then make a decision based on it?

Yes