Neh, low skill only, a low skill level can instill fear in the player, and this can prevent the player from getting positive emotions.
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
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Are you seriously contesting here that Frontier isn't describing their game first and foremost as an MMO?
A "definitive," one at that? okay...
It's built as the sequel to the preceding games on the series. The multi player mode is an add on.
Of course if you want to believe salesmen, crypto is a currency and thus has no intrinsic value, but as there is proof of work it has intrinsic value...
The game engine is MMO. The exact opposite of "add-on."
Are you actually playing the game, or are you playing the advertisements?
Going by what's actually in the game, ED is not an MMO.
ED is not an MMO.
I've been truly ganked 3 times in the last five years. Open for well over 99% of the time.
That dog doesn't hunt.
Now, could PVP be better implemented within the paradigm? Absolutely.
Right, not an mmo (Massive multi-cmdr jump, all in the same instance):
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/si021m/drew_wagars_final_mass_hyperspace_jump_farewell/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Back on page 59 Bruce was fairly clear as to how fdev sees this: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...in-open-play-mode-instead.593155/post-9630095, and this thread had been going in circles way before page 59.
Robert Maynard
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A single data point does not indicate anything of significance to the experiences of the player base as a whole.
Which is fine, to a point. There's a lot people have said on this topic from both sides, yet we get the game we are given and it seems very unlikely things are going to change. Open is and, without comment from FDev on the subject, always will incorporate a PvP mode with little/no consequence from the game for blowing up another player (the same can actually also be said for PG). That's fine for me and others who want to play that way.
The problem is saying that people shouldn't get upset because they can't ruin everyone's fun when they want to when the whole premise of the thread is ruining the fun of players currently enjoying play in open. Some of us like it like this, so saying it should be changed to a PvE setup is the same as saying do away with solo/PG.
If anyone doesn't like a discussion about removing them. Good. You've an idea of our feelings about threads like this.
Inara backs up my anecdote succinctly. It's rare.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
.... and how many players actively use Inara?
I already mentioned organized events in a previous post, but you cherry picked that part out of your last reply. ED'S instancing is unstable, unreliable, and does not hold that many players in a single instance on a normal basis, and you are fully aware of this.
It's still not an MMO.
What's your dataset?
It's been marketed as a solo play experience and as such it should have an equivalent experience of investment.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
There are over 12M copies of the game out there....
I'm not "cherry-picking," anything. The game is advertised as an mmo and I provided an example of the mmo mechanics at work. feel free to contradict the obvious all you want.
Great, out of that 12 million how many have you tabulated that have been ganked?
Well, that is probably due to Bethesdas late eureka moment that ppl don't like being lobbed into PvP lobbies to be slaughtered like lambs. Whereas FD still hopes the bucket is large enough for the lambs to not get found.
Basically game is not in state as it was visioned to be. As far as I understand original idea was to make believable living universe based on older Elite games. But at some point in making things were left in half-baked state. Thats the reason why we have laughable sys sec, laughable consequences for criminal career, and so on and on. And some people, predominantly those who concentrate on criminal play like current situation as ideal and are adamantly against any changes to it.