Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Bespoke? Is that the word of the day? The rest of what you typed up is just defendian rhetoric. The engine isn't up to it, and its not all on the server side.

They'd probably actually be further along is they'd started in 2017 with their own engine, they're still working CE to make it do things it can't.
 
Of course Ebob, eternal alphas are fine, unrealised promises are fine, bling barges are fine, telling your backers it's all their fault is fine. Please don't patronise me, I know what kickstarters are, I know they can fail but what CR and his defenders are doing is far different. If they weren't still fleecing backers you may have a point, fact they are nullifies any point in that regard.
I did not say it was fine, just said that that is what is it is. Ranting about it on a forum is not going to change anything.
It's been a decade Ebob, I've been an avid gamer for over 40 years and in all that time only one game held me for a decade and guess what? It wasn't a decade long alpha test tech demo, it was the most successful MMO of all time.
Well then keep with whatever that MMO is. Write SC off as a loss and maybe in another decade be surprised that it has released! I hope you did not spend so much that you cannot just "write if off". Maybe this MMO is just more your thing gameplay wise? Then play it!
 
Also, it used to be "But SC has space legs! ED doesn't! SC moar bettar!" but now it's down to just "SHEEP INTEERIURS! SC MOAST BETTAR!"

The rallying cry is always around what SC has that ED doesn't. Never acknowledgement of what ED has that SC doesn't. Or of there is, then its what ED does is bad, but when SC eventually has it it will be so much better, because Chris said so.

Its all rather silly. Both games should be looked at based on what there is now, not what might one day be, because that is the experience we get now should we choose to play one or the other. And if ship interiors makes you feel stirrings in your nether regions, then great, play SC. And if other things, such as a realistic simulation of the galaxy to travel through makes your stonks go stonk, then great, play ED.
 
Bespoke? Is that the word of the day? The rest of what you typed up is just defendian rhetoric. The engine isn't up to it, and its not all on the server side.

They'd probably actually be further along is they'd started in 2017 with their own engine, they're still working CE to make it do things it can't.
But these things it "can't" do, what are they? Seriously, please tell me what it cant do that it isn't doing right at this very moment. I really do not get your point. There a bugs, but the things work. I would agree with your statements if there wasn't an Alpha proving your statements wrong, lol.
 
I did not say it was fine, just said that that is what is it is. Ranting about it on a forum is not going to change anything.

Well then keep with whatever that MMO is. Write SC off as a loss and maybe in another decade be surprised that it has released! I hope you did not spend so much that you cannot just "write if off". Maybe this MMO is just more your thing gameplay wise? Then play it!

No you didn't but you defend them at every turn giving everyone here the distinct impression that you think it is fine, if you don't talk the talk.

And 'held' is past tense Ebob, as in 'used to' so no I won't be returning to WoW because I played it for 10 years and guess what, it didn't hold me any more. My point was all this enthusiasm is soooo faux because if it was gonna get stale after 2-3 years then what the hell is it after 10?

EDIt - Another FYI, I refunded :)
 
No you didn't but you defend them at every turn giving everyone here the distinct impression that you think it is fine, if you don't talk the talk.
It's neither fine nor not fine. It just is.
And 'held' is past tense Ebob, as in 'used to' so no I won't be returning to WoW because I played it for 10 years and guess what, it didn't hold me any more. My point was all this enthusiasm is soooo faux because if it was gonna get stale after 2-3 years then what the hell is it after 10?
Find some other MMO I suppose? New World? Lost Ark? There's lots of stuff out there.
EDIt - Another FYI, I refunded :)
Well, good! No need to get riled up over a game you refunded.
 
It can't do another star system.
It can. It's just that the servers can't. There wouldn't be a dev build of Pyro they've shown off in multiple ISC's and Citcon Demos. This is on the servers, not the engine. Hell, they could just replace the stanton gamefile with Pyro as the standard system. Magic!
It can't do hundreds of people.
Game clients? No. "People" as in NPCs? Yes. Just look around any landing zone, probably about 100 NPCs there.
The alpha doesn't prove anything, it's still a tech demo and they're trying to figure out how to get it past a single star system with 50 people. It can't do salvage obviously.
It also cannot do a specific circle shaped machine gun. Is this the engine not being capable? No! It's the content not being developed!
There's lots it can't do to make it a space game.
There's lot's that's not developed to make a spacegame. This is not the engine's fault!
 
It's neither fine nor not fine. It just is.

Find some other MMO I suppose? New World? Lost Ark? There's lots of stuff out there.

Well, good! No need to get riled up over a game you refunded.
Ok, stop telling me what to play and what to do and making assumptions regarding my 'riledness'.

I'm very happy with the games I'm playing, I don't need your advice because you assume I don't understand games or game development, clear?

And finally Ebob, no, everyone is not only prefectly entitled to have an opinion on SC but they also have a right to express it. I can tell you are getting twitchy because of the 'riled' comment when in reality Ebob and in my mind we are simply debating, maybe you're projecting?

I will ask you straight up Ebob, and please if you answer, no ifs, no buts no caveats just yes or no.

Were CIG right to blame their backers for the glacial development?
 
Here's a thought. Average human lifespan globally is just over 70 years.

SC has been in development for at least 1/7th of the average human's lifespan.

Chris Roberts will soon be 55. He's been developing SC for almost 1/5th of his life.

It still doesn't have a release date. It is still effectively in pre-alpha.

Buy an Idris.
 
Here's a thought. Average human lifespan globally is just over 70 years.

SC has been in development for at least 1/7th of the average human's lifespan.

Chris Roberts will soon be 55. He's been developing SC for almost 1/5th of his life.

It still doesn't have a release date. It is still effectively in pre-alpha.

Buy an Idris.
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Ok, stop telling me what to play and what to do and making assumptions regarding my 'riledness'.

I'm very happy with the games I'm playing, I don't need your advice because you assume I don't understand games or game development, clear?
I did not assume that
I will ask you straight up Ebob, and please if you answer, no ifs, no buts no caveats just yes or no.

Were CIG right to blame their backers for the glacial development?
No
 
It can. It's just that the servers can't. There wouldn't be a dev build of Pyro they've shown off in multiple ISC's and Citcon Demos. This is on the servers, not the engine. Hell, they could just replace the stanton gamefile with Pyro as the standard system. Magic!
Oh, things they've shown off. They've shown off lots of things that have disappeared into the ether to never be seen or spoken of again. This is more of that defendian rhetoric. It must exist in all forms, we've seen it and it's definitely the servers (or other excuse of the day).

Game clients? No. "People" as in NPCs? Yes. Just look around any landing zone, probably about 100 NPCs there.
When I said people, I meant people. NPCs are characters.

There's lot's that's not developed to make a spacegame. This is not the engine's fault!
We know the engine can't do a lot, CryEngine's never done it before and there's only so much you can try to make an engine do something it was never designed to do. The fact its still a struggle 10 years later, shows it can't do it. They also aren't running with the A team of managers.
 
Oh, things they've shown off. They've shown off lots of things that have disappeared into the ether to never be seen or spoken of again. This is more of that defendian rhetoric. It must exist in all forms, we've seen it
Tinfoil hats on! They've been pushing pyro for well over half a year now! These artists working their asses off just to delete everything again! The one system everybody has been waiting for, they're just pretending! It's all fake!!! Refund theories are always fun!
it's definitely the servers (or other excuse of the day).
Calling it an excuse just because you actually don't understand the problem, a refundian classic!
We know the engine can't do a lot, CryEngine's never done it before and there's only so much you can try to make an engine do something it was never designed to do. The fact its still a struggle 10 years later, shows it can't do it. They also aren't running with the A team of managers.
Surprise! No engine can do it! Nothing is purpose built for this!
 
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