Well, miracle tech did it's thing, SSOCS improved performance, probably was overhyped a bit but without it we would still be stuck with a singular planet and a few moons. This constant jesus tech blabbering is getting old.
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NMS is a spacesim. does NMS have orbital mechanics? No. Orbital Mechanics were never planned nor promised.
It got old from SC's backers in about 2016 mate however even now you see it on Spectrum.
As usual with CIG Ebob ICache was not only oversold, and again I bet money came in via ICache hype - and underdelivered but crucially it broke as much as it fixed. I would class CIG's 'Two Steps Forward, Two Steps Back' approach as 'development' in it's loosest possible term tbh.
No it is not, it's a planet explorer game with basic small survival game at the start, we're discussing CIG and SC, not Hello and NMS.
What was oversold with icache? Leave coffee cup in forest and not have it despawn? I've not even seen icache on any release view at all, has it even been implemented?
Just saying that just because something is a spacesim doesn't mean it needs orbital mechanics.
If they ever do add it, it will be revolutionary.
Again what are you trying to pull here? You are either taking me for an idiot or trying to refactor history again or both, behave.
ICache was sold as the 'Fix All Super Elixir' by CIG though moreso by the faithful on Spectrum. I'm not going to dig them up mate but people were being told it would fix everything, from their Javelin to their marriage. ICache was going to transform the game and frankly it came nowhere near, you know it, LittleAnt knows it, CIG knows it and our lord and saviour Eddie Izzard knows it.
But NMS ISN'T one was the entire point yet SC was sold on the premise of being the BDSSE. I'm not discussing NMS with you in this thread beyond this post Ebob, Honestly I don't think it's something you want to get into because whether or not you appreciate the NMS art style, or gameplay or whatever what they did with that team on their budget puts CIG to shame frankly.
What? It was never sold as anything more than an entity database. Are you mixing something up?
No I'm not Ebob, I recall vividly the previous incarnation of knights here and a great many on Spectrum talking it up as if it was the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Maybe all the Koolaid has soured your memory mate, or maybe it's the CIG tinted shades you're sporting.
A gentle reminder that SOCS was a complete washout, and is indeed a good example of oversold 'miracle tech' not fulfilling on its promises:
And a second gentle reminder that: Posters who misrepresent such things wildly, while gish galloping relentlessly, are not really worth interacting with
CIG predicted great things for SOCS, for example. Big jumps in server FPS were waved around:
Their glossy videos saw project leads envisioning: Significantly improved AI, an end to limits on location additions, and significantly increased player counts etc.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEwik6g0Lwo&t=309s
None of these grand claims came to pass.
If anything server FPS seems to have gotten slightly worse, down from the 7-10fps of 2019, to a 6fps average today (3fps if you're in the finale of the Xeno Threat capital ship event).
They made similar grandiose claims for iCache, with Chris underlining its 'road to release' impact (and gameplay enriching coffee cups hidden in forests
iCache is of course still missing in action.
That's years and years of hard-selling some relatively workaday technical additions. All of which tends to leave uber fans believing silly things like this…
But the "this year +1" hopium does help sell plenty of spaceships in the meantime. 2020 was a particularly good year
And a second gentle reminder that: Posters who misrepresent such things wildly, while gish galloping relentlessly, are not really worth interacting with
yeah, you are. or just making stuff up.
We have investigated ourselves and found we have done no wrong.
lol name one game forum where they use an independent 3rd party to review things.
when people complained about your moderation, who investigated it?
Chris bigged iCache up as one of the key final pillars that would take SC to release status. (Alongside Server Meshing).
In the next Citcon he said it would allow notable gameplay such as:
- Base building
- Tony's dynamic resources, driving player and NPC gold rushes via Quanta
Various excessive fanboy types utterly ran with these types of pronouncements, as seen in the popular Digital Foundry video for example:
CIG did hype it. Some guys did correspondingly run with it as some form of miracle tech.
It ain't the sceptics fault that it's turned out to be a nothing-burger in the intervening years
There's also this interview with lead engineer McKinney talking about noticeable improvements throughout the game's interactions with the database and fault tolerance helping with persistence (around seven minute mark).
As far as miracle tech goes this makes the cut imho. As petty as it is to argue the point, the point is that CIG has dangled that core tech carrot multiple times, complete with a fancy name and a release just around the corner every time.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKJfRwjA2RA
As far as miracle tech goes this makes the cut imho. As petty as it is to argue the point, the point is that CIG has dangled that core tech carrot multiple times, complete with a fancy name and a release just around the corner every time.
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Surely they would have spent more time / resources working on the crytek networking than the original code would have taken to write by now? Why don't they just rewrite the whole thing? No mans sky did it.
Today, on Spectrum...
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J3PT to the rescue!!!!
When you shill so hard you don't realize you just make things sound even worse! Yup, CIG's own flagship never been done before forums, the thing that is planned to fully integrate with SC at some point, is just a small part of the community, a small minority, and negatively skewed (which is amazing considering you have to give CIG money to even post there.... hold, on, that might explain something!).
If its such a small minority, i wonder why J3PT spends hours a day writing War and Peace levels of text defending CIG there?
Still, good comebacks
Followed up by this response, from another defender of the faith (sounds like even they are getting salty)
Noobifier
Oh dear... Spectrum really is irrelevant
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@GreySix on the case...
Noobifier coming down hard on the shill side
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Well, have to agree with him. CIG have repeatedly lied to backers. Like saying SQ42 was almost complete. Like promising regular SQ42 shows in 2020. Like CR in 2015 saying by the end of the year backers will get everything they paid for and a lot more.
Wise words indeed
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Funny just for the spelling mistake. Didn't know CIG had bakers!
Not sure where this one came from, sounds like they are tilting at windmills
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But LOL at 5+ years minimum to make them all. Its taken them 5+ years to make 1, let alone the 109 remaining. This is the level of delusion backers have. I mean, i can agree with his conclusion that if they just pushed them out, barebones, copy/paste, whatever, it will be pretty barebones. But on the other hand, if they don't, then they might get half a dozen systems before they are dead.
Comments are interesting, with people actually going against the OPs narrative...
And nice to see someone in the SC community say this.
Server Meshing pushed back again - Star Citizen Spectrum
Since you guys are in an all out war because of the buyback CCUs, and nobody is looking at the Progress Tracker.. I just wanted to inform you that server meshing was announced (and on progress...
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Community Managers - Where are they? - Star Citizen Spectrum
To the Community Management Team Anyone who has been reading Spectrum over the past two months should know that CIG has run a number of actions that a large part of the community is complaining...
robertsspaceindustries.com
J3PT to the rescue!!!!
When you shill so hard you don't realize you just make things sound even worse! Yup, CIG's own flagship never been done before forums, the thing that is planned to fully integrate with SC at some point, is just a small part of the community, a small minority, and negatively skewed (which is amazing considering you have to give CIG money to even post there.... hold, on, that might explain something!).
If its such a small minority, i wonder why J3PT spends hours a day writing War and Peace levels of text defending CIG there?
Still, good comebacks
Followed up by this response, from another defender of the faith (sounds like even they are getting salty)
Noobifier
Oh dear... Spectrum really is irrelevant
If Spectrum is not important, then why argue here? - Star Citizen Spectrum
I see this point lobbied against any suggestions to improve the forums. Spectrum only accounts for a very small percentage of the community, it's not important, everyone has left because it is so...
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@GreySix on the case...
Are you kidding? This forum is one of the few mostly-functional gameplay loops available in Star Citizen.
And the PvP offered is very entertaining.
Noobifier coming down hard on the shill side
We were warned each time you "Buy", nothing to be upset about. - Star Citizen Spectrum
I have a chunk of my last video that I offer as tribute to the mighty SPECTRUM GODS. You are upset over nothing and no matter how many posts you make, you will achieve nothing. FYI, Noise is...
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Well, have to agree with him. CIG have repeatedly lied to backers. Like saying SQ42 was almost complete. Like promising regular SQ42 shows in 2020. Like CR in 2015 saying by the end of the year backers will get everything they paid for and a lot more.
Wise words indeed
How to upset your bakers - the incredible price-change of buyback CCU's - Star Citizen Spectrum
Well played @CIG First you of your PAYING community with changes to the progress tracker and now you top all that by changing the price of ALL buyback CCU's without even announcing it to your...
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Funny just for the spelling mistake. Didn't know CIG had bakers!
Not sure where this one came from, sounds like they are tilting at windmills
100 star systems done fast = 100 star systems not worth doing - Star Citizen Spectrum
If the point is to just replicate a MMS or ED, then sure, a planet can be pumped out in a couple days, an entire star system in weeks, and all 100 planned systems in a year. Bam. Done. Goal met....
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But LOL at 5+ years minimum to make them all. Its taken them 5+ years to make 1, let alone the 109 remaining. This is the level of delusion backers have. I mean, i can agree with his conclusion that if they just pushed them out, barebones, copy/paste, whatever, it will be pretty barebones. But on the other hand, if they don't, then they might get half a dozen systems before they are dead.
Comments are interesting, with people actually going against the OPs narrative...
And nice to see someone in the SC community say this.