Coffee has kicked in and I've just realised something with the thread title.
what else are they making harder for new players? How many hours it is taking now?
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"davs hope"
no one with with an above 90IQ farms davs hope.. you just filter imperial and federal space and "farm hges" for 20 minutes .. 20 minutes. if you cant spare 20 minutes to get 100 imperial shielding then this game is not for you
"shard sites"
for raws you just farm crashed anaconda for 15 mins lol
the rest of yoru post is just you talking abnout someting that i dont evne know has anything to do with the game.. what is the probe thingy and why should you care for engeneering ?? im a dude with 2k hours for real i should now this are you talking about the same game?? do you even play elite?? i have 20 engeneered ships what is this probe thingy your talking about??
and as for the mats traders?? what do you mean that is grind??? you just trade the mats you want . what is yoru problem with it??
are you one of tose guys that wants engeneering materials in the arx store is that it??
yeh siriusly whats his prolbem lol lmao
just dont the people complaning about the game dont even play it since most of the stuff that op sayd or the guy you replyed to is bassless.....and its wierd about the meta alloy ones we just had a cg and people ware making billions in a day .. i got late to the cg with 2 hours lef and i made around 100 million... and it toke me 40 mins to go from the point an back so in 1 hour or so i did 100 million....
dosent play the game .. like many that complain.. its someting i noticed
Someone mentioned that to me in another thread. (I'm new, been playing about 6 weeks now.)
I was able to grind to Duke for the Empire in just over 7 hours. He had mentioned that when he did it back in the day it took him a couple of months.
I am finding the grind on the Federation to be a lot longer. I've been at it for three days now and I'm at Warrant Officer. I'm just not getting the stacked missions to the same base for the Federation grind that I did for the Empire.
If you really want those ships unlocked, there's usually a few tips on the wiki as well.
Federation/Ranks
There are 14 ranks in the Federal Navy Auxiliary, which can be joined by any independent pilot. As pilots rise through the ranks, they are rewarded with access to exclusive Federal ships, missions, and restricted system permits. For players to be promoted through the Federation's ranks, they...
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The "it takes too long to get anywhere" argument does falter when you see what ships you can build with tier 1 engineering and avoiding anything faction locked.
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I'd happily take this into a medium CZ and expect to come out with a win and the enemy spec ops wiped out.
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Tell me how many users bought another copy straight from FD in the sale, and decided not to play via the added layer of Steam. You don't know. Now there's a thought. I've never had a problem running ED H: or O: in VR. Maybe Steam itself is a feature to the woes. Who knows? You? Again, Steam numbers mean squat.
Only if steam numbers represented a constant proportion of the player population over time would using them to judge current vs historical popularity be valid.
But we don't know that, do we, as Coppermine says. We have no idea what percentage of the population uses Steam, and if its been constant over time.
So it does mean squat all.
But we don't know that, do we, as Coppermine says. We have no idea what percentage of the population uses Steam, and if its been constant over time.
So it does mean squat all.
Look at it this way:
Pretty much anytime I ever logged on to Eve Online, there were typically 25,000 people online. According to Steam right now, there are 4,142 people online playing Eve. So that's roughly 16% of the players the server shows.
Right now, Steam is showing 3,176 players online for Elite. So this games population is probably about the same as Eve's is. Add to that the fact that Eve is a Free-to-play game, and it becomes pretty apparent that Elite is doing a bit better than Eve is.
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Eve's subscription right, not F2P, or have they changed it since I last checked!
It free to play and added to geforce now so any body with chromebook and lower can play it now..
With some people moving to the PC version they may get distracted by other games and not buy or play EDO even with the free copy of horizons...
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It's been free-to-play for a long time. I started it two years ago.
But there's a paywall. It only lets you get so far and then you have to pay to advance. So those who are pay players have huge advantages over those who are not.
EDIT TO ADD: And once you stop paying, you lose everything you obtained while you were paying and get cut off back down to the FTP limit.
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Maybe once it was a reasonable indicator, but with it being free on it's launch on Epic and I'm sure some players may have preferred to use that instead of steam for whatever reason, it's certainly not comparable with anything beforehand.
I believe console transfers won't be to a Steam account either, so we'll continue not counting towards those numbers too.
You know, the amusing thing is I've never had to farm HGEs, ever. I discovered long ago that they spawn in deep space (aka where you go to travel quickly and relatively safely in Supercruise), so as I run missions, or simply travel from point A to point B for other purposes, I'll keep my eyes open for them, and drop into any I find along my route.
Same goes with raw materials. Whenever I do a surface based mission, there's almost always a metallic meteorite cluster within wave sensor range. I just follow the signal in my SRV, having fun flyving in the process, and pick up several dozen materials from the cluster since I was in the area already.
Data isn't all that hard to come across as I play either. As I'm flying in Supercruise, I'll scan the ships ahead of me, primarily to see if they're a target of opportunity. Same if there's any leaving a station. There's also plenty of wakes I can scan as I fly out of mass lock range.
It's probably why I liked the addition of Engineering to the game, even when it was much more randomized than it is now, required mission only commodities as well as materials, sources only gave you one material instead of three with no traders and a global material limit, and completely lacked pinned blueprints and remote engineering. Equipping my ships to take full advantage of the opportunities to get engineering materials led to much more interesting outfitting choices, as was the decision to exploit them. The choice to attack an undefended cargo convoy is much more interesting when you stumble upon it in Federation space, you're hauling mission cargo and/or passengers, and you're ship isn't specialized for combat.
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So this WAS a change! I thought I'd just misremembered things and been an idiot for months.
I sort of farm them, I will on occasion decide to go HGE hunting and when I find a system with them in I will fly to each one that spawns that I can reach before the timeout then when they are all gone do the same thing with other sources, if I'm in the right ship I will do some distress work as well. If stuff stops spawning I will go to another system or if everything lasted long enough logoff till the next day. I don't bother trying to reset the instance.
Same sort of thing minus the missions and flyving.
Again same sort of approach though I am just scanning for data not targets.
It's probably why I liked the addition of Engineering to the game, even when it was much more randomized than it is now, required mission only commodities as well as materials, sources only gave you one material instead of three with no traders and a global material limit, and completely lacked pinned blueprints and remote engineering. Equipping my ships to take full advantage of the opportunities to get engineering materials led to much more interesting outfitting choices, as was the decision to exploit them. The choice to attack an undefended cargo convoy is much more interesting when you stumble upon it in Federation space, you're hauling mission cargo and/or passengers, and you're ship isn't specialized for combat.
Currently I am trying some changes out on some of my combat ships at a Nav Beacon and hoovering up all sorts of manufactured Mats and data as well as having fun, to the extent that I will soon have to nip off to find some materials traders as I am running out of slots.
Just playing the game and having fun.
The last time I checked was when I was deciding whether to play ED, NMS, SC or EVE, it was subscription then, but that wasn't a factor in deciding whether or not to play, the galaxy simulation and the newly added landable plaets in Horizons was the decider. So essntially it's not P2P, it's really a P2W format, that's not unusual these days so I don't blame them, the free stuff is always good to attract potential long term players who will pay to play.
EVE is so crazy. I won't touch EVE. Besides, EVE is an MMO. ED's not an MMO despite that people call it that for lack of a better term. Why can't we just call them STGs?
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