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If the lack of Horizons 4.0 from Odyssey Launchers was a ploy to attract more cmdrs to buy Odyssey, well... it was doomed to fail in a such geek community as Elite has.'

At this point, they should really consider either adding Horizons 4.0 to Odyssey Launchers, or somehow enforce the limitation server-side

And for attracting more people to buy Odyssey they should go the old and well beaten path of adding Odyssey Exclusives, like:
  • Panther Clipper, the one trader to rule them all
  • Fer-de-Pike, the one fighter to rule them all
  • Imperial Explorer (or Anything Imperial for what is worth 😂 )

And the deal maker.....

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I have a 1080ti and in 1080p mode i'm getting nothing less than 144 in space, 120 in stations. It's all about the in game setup, not everything needs to be maxxed out
I just have the FPS capped. I so did not want the card to fail last year...
 
Hello.
I’m having major issues with Ody. Every time I start the launcher it keeps asking me to upgrade. 1st time was the normal upgrade (used steam). Then yesterday it got me to upgrade from 2022.09.14 to 2022.09.15 (used steam). Now it wants me to upgrade from 2022.09.15 to 2022.09.14 (going backwards), I’m trying to do the upgrade via the launcher now.
I’m assuming that the version number in the brackets is the version it wants to upgrade to.
Each upgrade takes about 2hrs to download and install.
Anyone has any idea what is going on?
Thanks.
Probably this.
 
It's the 4.0/EDO client; the menus will invariably be EDO.



Planetary terrain.

That planet I was over is landable and heavily populated, but it not only has an exclusion zone and no visible settlements, it's being rendered as vanilla ED would render it because I'm logged in with the SeasonOne argument that disables Horizons and Odyssey terrain.
Got it.

My wife's account doesn't have Odyssey (and won't be getting it until it's free) and I was not planning on installing 3.8 on either her system nor mine. If I want my character to directly interact with her's, I'll either have to use the above workaround, or put 20GB of redundant (as both of these systems are plenty fast enough to handle the 4.0 performance tax) stuff on both systems.
Yes, that's the options. Odyssey is the development platform, it's not unreasonable that people need to buy it imo.
 
I have three steam accounts, two of them with a licence for Odyssey. All three accounts use the very same installation (about 50GB for 4.0 and 20GB for 3.8). There is only a difference in how the game is started, when I use my Base Game/Horizons only account. A command line parameter "SeasonTwo" is added. Odyssey and Horizons 4.0 are using the exact same game client.
This just... hurts.

I had seen all the stuff about PEGI, was a-ok with Ody and Horizons 4.0 not being able to instance and accepted that, but I had figured odyssey owners would be able to Access horizons 4.0 as a middle ground, so they and their friends (with powerful enough pcs anyways) could still experience the 4.0 Non-foot content together, until the announcement prior - then wasn't sure if there was a misunderstanding until launch day.

Launch day i was just curious about what internally was so incompatible that they couldn't give ody players access...

Finding out its 'the buttons swap rather than you get an extra one' is... Ow. ...idk if the launcher had a hard cap on the buttons it could fit or something, but... this feels like a lot of upset could have been prevented(or at least reduced) for want of a single button?

Be safe folks. Hope the weekend goes well.
 
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Yes, that's the options. Odyssey is the development platform, it's not unreasonable that people need to buy it imo.

I think it's unreasonable, that I, a LEP holder who paid ten times what an Odyssey license currently costs, needs to jump through hoops to play with those who do not have Odyssey, without having to revert to the old client.

How old are you, then?

I'm twelve and what is this?
 
Eight. Although I've been playing Elite for over four years now. Please don't tell my parents.

In case of trollage:
Clearly the age ratings do not affect you, and you would fall under said majority.

In case of not trollage:
You likely wouldn't understand the ramifications of this company's decisions. Besides, a video game is not worth skipping your piano lessons.
 
Hello.
I’m having major issues with Ody. Every time I start the launcher it keeps asking me to upgrade. 1st time was the normal upgrade (used steam). Then yesterday it got me to upgrade from 2022.09.14 to 2022.09.15 (used steam). Now it wants me to upgrade from 2022.09.15 to 2022.09.14 (going backwards), I’m trying to do the upgrade via the launcher now.
I’m assuming that the version number in the brackets is the version it wants to upgrade to.
Each upgrade takes about 2hrs to download and install.
Anyone has any idea what is going on?
Thanks.

One member in our discord solved that problem by uninstalling the whole game from steam launcher and reinstalling it again.
 
Clearly the age ratings do not affect you, and you would fall under said majority.
Indeed. But that doesn't mean I can't have opinions on their existence and enforcement.

You likely wouldn't understand the ramifications of this company's decisions.
I'll have you know children can be more successful businesspeople than adults, as this documentary proves.
Besides, a video game is not worth skipping your piano lessons.
How dare you.

I play the otamatone.
 
I think it's unreasonable, that I, a LEP holder who paid ten times what an Odyssey license currently costs, needs to jump through hoops to play with those who do not have Odyssey, without having to revert to the old client.
I usually tend to agree with your opinions, but here I don't. Frontier's main interest imo could (should) be making money and they therefore may have different opinion how to look on players which decided not to buy new DLC (Odyssey). Effect on current Odyssey players is imo kind of collateral damage. Looks not fair, yes, but ... I myself spent on this game numerous times more as is price of base game+Odyssey and not on one account, so I want that this game is working for long time, is working better, have improved look and feel more complex with much more ties between ships and on foot play ... and to be brutally honest with my view, imo Odyssey is future of this game, not Horizons. Therefore I understand that Frontier want to keep kind of pressure on players to buy and enage in new DLC (Odyssey) and do not let them comfortably without any obstacles stay with Horizons which code will sooner or later become obsolete. I really would like that story of ED will move also to "foot", and this clearly is delayed due the need to maintain also "old" content. Frontier did certain decision, it may work for them good or bad, but they definitelly had rational reason(s) (looking on things from their position) why they have decided so.
 
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I usually tend to agree with your opinions, but here I don't. Frontier's main interest imo could (should) be making money and they therefore may have different opinion how to look on players which decided not to buy new DLC (Odyssey). I myself spent on this game numerous times more as is price of base game+Odyssey and not on one account, so I want that this game is working for long time, working better, looking better and feel more complex with much more ties between ships and on foot play ... and to be brutally honest with my view, imo Odyssey is future of this game, not Horizons. Therefore I understant that Frontier want to keep kind of pressure on players to buy and enage in new DLC (Odyssey) and do not let them comfortably without any obstacles stay with Horizons which code will sooner or later become obsolete. I really would like that story of ED will move also to "foot", and this clearly is delayed due the need to maintain also "old" content. Frontier did certain decision, it may work for them good or bad, but they definitelly had rational reason(s) (looking on things from their position) why they have decided so.

That Frontier's main interest is in making money is a given. How best to go about that is less certain.

Personally, putting arbitrary barriers on who I can instance with, with my fully upgraded account, is not going to encourage me, or those I play with, to give Frontier more money.

Less subjectively, attempting to force me to install and use the old client, that they ostensibly would like to get rid of at some point, is also contradictory. This situation is an exemplar of something that (officially) cannot be done because I have Odyssey. I am not sure how this is an incentive for others to buy Odyssey.
 
The main people being disadvantaged are Odyssey players who have not been given access to EDH4.0. Not the people who haven't paid - the ones who have. In many ways the LEP players most of all as they never had an option to not buy Odyssey (poor things :) )

For instance something was spotted about settlements in Odyssey today and I idly wanted to see how it looks in 4.0Horizons - but rather than just logging my Odyssey CMDR (who is in the system) in and having a look I now have to shift my one remaining EDH commander over 2k LY (and move an FC) in order to do that. It's making me think I won't upgrade that Horizons commander since I will completely lose the ability to see things in that mode.

It's just a very strange decision.
 
and to be brutally honest with my view, imo Odyssey is future of this game, not Horizons.
I agree with the factual nature of this statement, but not its execution. You can't have Odyssey without Horizons, because Odyssey is a DLC, and usually DLCs are not mandatory. It's like saying High Isle is the future of ESO, or Tides of Avarice is the future of X4 - it just doesn't make sense. Now if you say that X4 is the future of the X franchise, then that makes sense, but I'm not required to buy X3 in order to play X4.

In other words, if Odyssey is truly the future and Horizons the past, then Odyssey should be sold as a stand-alone product rather than a DLC. After all, Odyssey is a stand-alone product (you can delete Horizons after installing Odyssey), so marketing it as a DLC and making "obsolete" Horizons an mandatory purchase in order to play Odyssey feels shady to me. Not that it affects me personally as an old player who owns Horizons, but it's a bit of a scam for new players forced to buy a "dead" game (Horizons) in order to play the current game (Odyssey).
 
... and usually DLCs are ...
that's imo the main point. ED is not common product and there is not much alternatives to it (depends about personal views, for me there is not any other alternative to such kind of game). From what was said is obvious that Odyssey use very different codebase as Horizons and this fact alone explains well enough what dilema Frontier faces. Releasing Odyssey as a new game would make all LEP owners feel betrayed and it means that imo they do not have "all good" alternative how to proceed further. They must decide and stick to that decision and hope that they chosed the best alternative. That not everyone will be pleased is a given outcome.
 
that's imo the main point. ED is not common product and there is not much alternatives to it (depends about personal views, for me there is not any other alternative to such kind of game). From what was said is obvious that Odyssey use very different codebase as Horizons and this fact alone explains well enough what dilema Frontier faces. Releasing Odyssey as a new game would make all LEP owners feel betrayed and it means that imo they do not have "all good" alternative how to proceed further. They must decide and stick to that decision and hope that they chosed the best alternative.
What's wrong with giving the LEP owners EDO (if it was released as a new game instead of a DLC) out of courtesy instead?
 
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