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    The Formidine Rift - Part 2

    Many people have went searching for this mystery, yet none have found an answer. This is a continuation of the previous thread found HERE . Most of this information has been found by a number of other people and I take no credit for their genius

    Join the Formidine Rift Communication Hub on Fleetcomm!(Thanks for getting this rolling, Erimus.)

    What is the Formidine Rift?
    From what we know, it is an area of space located between the Outer Perseus Arm and the New Galactic Arm. This general area has not been confirmed, but is accepted as the general location.
    Thanks to Erimus, we have a couple of lovely pictures Hope you don't mind, but I linked to your images. Galactic Maps by Erimus



    Actual Map of the Rift



    Drew Wagar created this area of space and entered it into Elite Lore with his Book, Elite: Reclamation. In the book, the Protagonist, Salomè/Kahina meets an Old Lady who, for a lack of better words, seems a bit luny. This old lady tells her;

    "Don't tell no one, but I got as far as the Formidine Rift, not many folks can say that! No one has gone past it and lived to tell the tale."
    "Edge of the Galactic Arm. Take a line from Reorte to Riedquat to the edge of the arm and ... keep going. 'Stars thin out, you can see the whole galaxy just hanging there."
    "Let's just say there was some serious sh** out there, stuff you wouldn't believe. No really - no one believed me, said it was all a fabrication. I had no proof you see and they edited my memory afterwards. Ah, it'll all come back to bite them one day, it's all there in the imperial databanks somewhere - and they thought the Thargoids were trouble ..."
    Later in the book, we are told more about this so called Rift.
    The video played.
    "If you're listening to this it means your smart enough to have bypassed Galcop, Federation, and Imperial security." The woman on the video smiled. "Not bad, but it's nothing compared to what's coming. I'm guessing you'll be pressed for time so I'll be quick. You'll find the co-ordinates at the end of this message. You'll need a tough ship and a good pilot. It's a long way, so make sure you're prepped, no one will be around to help you out. Once you reach the rift you're going to have to plot a way across. There are no stars for dozens of light years and the dark systems haven't been mapped, so take your time, watch your six." The woman leaned in closer to the recording device. "What's there? Wish I could tell you, but they edited my memory pretty good, took me long enough to stitch this lot back together. Whatever it is, it's something that Galcop, the Imps and the Feds don't want us to see. Good luck, and ... right on, Commander." The holofac faded, leaving them with just the text.
    John Harper, author of And Here The Wheel, wrote in a Kickstarter comment(Discovered by Acaelus Thorn. I have yet to read And Here The Wheel);
    "You don't know what I've seen. I've sailed beyond the Formidine Rift, seen the fleets of Octagonal ships blocking out the stars. I've stood on lost worlds, sterilised clean by the Thargoids and erased from humanity's maps. I've seen the graves from the Thargoid wars, countless headstones stretching beyond the curvature of the horizon, little spots of reflected light dottering the abandoned continent ..."
    At first glance, most would think "Oh, it's just an area of space." However, Drew has confirmed that there is something there to be found in game, we just don't know what. Hence, the mystery and the continued search.
    Comments from Drew on Twitter;
    3/3/16:#FormidineRift. 1: Yes, it's in #Elitedangerous to be found. 2. You do not need Horizons. 3. Whether it's found depends on who goes looking. (We know that it is not rank locked as well, so his meaning of "Depends on who goes looking" could mean many things.)
    3/7/16: @SystemSoundTM Well, the secret of the Formidine Rift is out there to be found, more about it may be revealed this year, if all goes well...


    The Clues We Have

    The Reorte to Riedquat line from Reclamation. It may not point to anything directly, but this is our reference point.
    Reorte/Riedquat Co-ordinates(Thanks to Dysonl)

    Reorte

    X:75.75
    Y:48.75
    Z:75.15625

    Riedquat
    X:68.84375
    Y:48.75
    Z:69.75

    "Formidine" has been translated as "fear/dread", Drew confirms and says a clue. He also tells us to look into the Etymology of Kahina. The meaning of the name Kahina is derived from Arabic;
    الكاهِنة (al-Kahinah) meaning "the diviner, the fortuneteller". This was a title applied to the 7th-century Berber queen Dihya, who resisted the Arab expansion into North Africa.

    Drew tells us "CMDRs may wish to consider the, ahem, core of the problem."- Here
    (More to come)

    Relevant Post's by Drew
    These are post's by Drew in the previous thread that are relevant. Thanks, LuckyLuke
    #183

    The mystery of the Formidine Rift as described by the clues in my story, Elite: Reclamation :

    1. It is there to be found in game in ED.
    2. You do not need 'Horizons' to find it as it was finalised long before 'Horizons'.
    3. Whether it is found or not depends entirely on who goes looking.

    #186
    The Engineers expansion may make it easier, but it's been possible since launch back in 2014.

    #192
    It's not locked to a rank. All you need is wanderlust, patience and an ability to read between the lines.

    As for the ship at the end of Elite: Reclamation it was actually an Imperial Clipper, though it's called a Courier in the story. You can find out why on my FAQ page > http://www.drewwagar.com/elite-dange...e-reclamation/

    #660 - (Thanks for pointing this out, Vihear)All the of Galnet articles about Lady Kahina were written by me. She has been on a series of exploration trips in the last nine months or so, but they may come to an end before long, so keep an eye out for her return. That may provide further insight.

    In terms of the Rift itself, do bear in mind that this story was finalised in the gamma phase of the game. As I mentioned before, it does not require Horizons and you do not need to have read my book to take part (Though reading the story may help with the immersion, the clues from the book are all available on-line in these forums now).

    From what I can see though, some basic assumptions about the characters involved have been made, which you may wish to reconsider. Remember I am primarily a 'character' writer, I like twists and misdirection.

    Right on, Commanders.

    Drew.

    #864

    This is indeed correct though the group (Children of Raxxla) is genuinely in game as minor faction. Sorry, I hadn't spotted that comment about the logo. Kahina's story was halted last year due to 'issues' with the way Galnet was being edited and sequenced. Those have since been resolved and thus the story continues. Clues as to the Rift itself are in-game and in-book, along with all the other ED storylines. There might be hints on social media/forum/reddit etc, but you should focus resources on Galnet, In game and In book as 'canon' to the story. If it hasn't happened there, I would say it hasn't happened. Fan-fiction, regardless of quality, is not canon, and that includes my own stories prior to ED.

    My website articles should be treated as 'summaries' of the canon for convenience, there are no direct 'clues' continued therein. These articles were written to make us much background lore available as possible within the restrictions of my NDA. Thus any info there is already available somewhere else - hopefully I've just made it more accessible.



    Galnet References
    Finally found what I was looking for. Thank you CMDR BeanSeller, thanks to you I have a reference for the Galnet articles
    Galnet Articles featuring Senator Kahina
    09/02/3301 Kahina's going to Sol. gets interdicted. doesn't like being late.
    06/03/3301 Docking at mars. causes a fuss. doesn't like being late.
    09/03/3301 docking at mars causes a fuss doesn't like being late. again!
    15/03/3301 has an imperial escort of cutters. says feds are unwelcoming
    17/03/3301 tour "outer gas giants in the sol system"
    20/03/3301 goes to earth via mars. makes fuss at mars again
    27/03/3301 Alioth invites her to visit. she's in cambridge. london. earth. sol
    02/04/3301 she has some drinks at london
    02/04/3301 departs sol. returns to empire systems. says sol was "most enlightening"
    02/05/3301 Avalon shipyards show her upgrading the seven veils' drive, shields, and fsd
    06/05/3301 departs avalon (for Achenar?)
    12/05/3301 seen 11/5 in Capitol on Achenar
    17/05/3301 seven veils confirmed to have upgraded fuel scoop and disco scanner
    21/07/3301 missing. not spoken to ppl in a month. left seven veils, stripped it of parts, left behind. avalon improvements fakes (drives, shields, fsd). tiara left behind. and medalian w/ dark wheel symbol and "salome"


    Related/MISC Links/Threads
    Elite: Reclamation Lore Related to In Game Discovery
    Elite Dangerous Lore, compiled on Drew's site(No clues here, but good reference to Lore and just good reading material)
    The Formidine Rift Spreadsheet by Dommarraa
    UA's, Barnacles, and More Thread 6

    Galaxy Map brings together the latest scientific results mapping our home galaxy, the Milky Way.
    R/R Line and the Rift

    Exploration Software
    EDDiscovery
    EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map
    Captain's Log

    So you wanna be a Rifter? Have a look at this.


    Out in the Rift? Sign here - LuckyLuke's Formidine Rifters

    Disclaimer - This is a work in progress. This is what I have so far, thought I would go ahead and post it. Hope this helps!

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    Great summary, thanks CMDR! I've been heading there for a few evenings, I'm planning to stop by the Bubble nebula for funsies and then powering across the bridge to see what's out there. Interesting stuff, possibly the most interesting bit of Elite lore I've read actually, I hope someone finds something creepy as out there!
    Keep Calm, and Fly Forward.

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    Reserved

    Thanks, it's a work in progress

    And hopefully will help keep the clues and reference material easy to find.

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    Originally Posted by Acheron Kimald View Post (Source)
    Thanks, it's a work in progress

    And hopefully will help keep the clues and reference material easy to find.
    Yep at this point the other thread is a monster!
    Keep Calm, and Fly Forward.

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    Good job Acheron. Can't rep you any more, so get some virtual one!
    Cmdr Dargo Losan

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    Agreed good job and thanks for compiling Acheron, I will be re-joining you out there shortly.
    If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on the solution, I would spend the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I know the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes. A.E. 1879 - 1955

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    Originally Posted by Dielos View Post (Source)
    Good job Acheron. Can't rep you any more, so get some virtual one!
    Originally Posted by Arjin View Post (Source)
    Agreed good job and thanks for compiling Acheron, I will be re-joining you out there shortly.
    Just trying to help a bit I believe I have an old wordpress account and since I was late on reserving a comment, if it is needed.. I will setup a page offsite to handle the material. I will try to find some more time in a bit to add to it, but duty calls. Well, er, housework calls.

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    Cool. Would appreciate it if you put a link to my Formidine spread sheet (in sig) in the references
    "The Monster" - "The Canonn Material and PPOI Sheet" - "Formidine Rift"
    ... --- --..-- / .. -. / - .... . / ..-. .- -.-. . / --- ..-. / --- ...- . .-. .-- .... . .-.. -- .. -. --. / --- -.. -.. ... --..-- / .. .----. -- / .-.. . ..-. - / .-- .. - .... / --- -. .-.. -.-- / --- -. . / --- .--. - .. --- -. ---... / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .... .- ...- . / - --- / ... -.-. .. . -. -.-. . / - .... . / ... .... .. - / --- ..- - / --- ..-. / - .... .. ...

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    The key thing for me, from the quotes from the old woman in the hospital, is that whatever there is to find, is on the far side of the rift, near the end of the new outer arm, as opposed to being in the rift.

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    Originally Posted by Saool View Post (Source)
    The key thing for me, from the quotes from the old woman in the hospital, is that whatever there is to find, is on the far side of the rift, near the end of the new outer arm, as opposed to being in the rift.
    In complete agreement with you, that is exactly where I'll be headed to next.
    If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on the solution, I would spend the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I know the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes. A.E. 1879 - 1955

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    For some reason, my quote function broke. Added it in, Dom.

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    Great effort Acheron,

    Have some rep.

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    Originally Posted by Saool View Post (Source)
    The key thing for me, from the quotes from the old woman in the hospital, is that whatever there is to find, is on the far side of the rift, near the end of the new outer arm, as opposed to being in the rift.
    This was my take on it as well. However, she does say to "plot a way across".. That doesn't necessarily mean to completely cross it, so I'm unsure. However, I'm near the far side and will be checking it out some

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    Well done, Acheron!

    This makes it a little easier to link to people who may be interested and for future clues.

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    Repped! Great work man, and a concise account, thus very helpful

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