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  1. #9826
    I am struggling to see where in the "key" there is a reference for ammonia - although its great that it fits its the bit i want to see and go "ooohhhhhhh".

    Also the UP output sonogram wit the image in it.

    First part is the UP scanning something?

    Middle part is the key showing what items 1 - 4 mean

    Last part is a squished image of a part of the key/globe?

    Like others have said - why send this to Merope?

    Why Merope 5C as a baseline for data? Its not an ammonia world (or was it in the past).

    What is receiving the data? Barnacles? Are they a comms relay function, if so, do they transmit to other barnacles? Is there a breadcrumb of barnacles heading back to the "Homeworld"


    Someone once wrote....

    "No one would have believed in the last years of the thirty third century that these worlds were being watched keenly and closely by intelligences greater than man's and yet as mortal as his own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns they were scrutinised and studied, perhaps almost as narrowly as a man with a microscope might scrutinise the transient creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water."

  2. #9827
    The probe home world is permit locked.

    I've been looking into the headerless number: It is distance compared to Merope.

    In Merope the number is 1.
    Near Merope the number is near 1. Either less than or greater depending on the direction.
    The further you go, the more the number diverges.

    I checked the value in the following systems:

    Code:
    System                          X        Y        Z      Value
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Merope 5C                  -78.59  -149.63  -340.53      1.000
    Synuefe KI-Z B33-0          74.53  -149.38  -339.97      0.850
    COL 285 Sector LS-A B14-1  -78.66  -150.59   -49.25      1.177
    Wredguia FN-Q B33-1        -78.00   175.81  -341.13      1.149
    Triangulating these values landed me in coordinates: (687.07, -362.18, -697.24).

    The closest system to these coordinates is Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 with coordinates: (687.0625, -362.53125, -697.0625).

    This can be verified by calculating the expected distance and comparing that to the probe distance for different systems.

    Code:
    System                        Probe      Calc     Difference
    Merope                            1    1.0000    -0.000021
    Synuefe KI-Z B33-0             0.85    0.8500    -0.000025
    COL 285 Sector LS-A B14-1     1.177    1.1770     0.000030
    Wredguia FN-Q B33-1           1.149    1.1492    -0.00013
    Hyades Sector ZU-Y D113       1.043    1.0430     0.000012
    Synuefe TI-Z B33-1            0.697    0.6975    -0.00073
    Synuefe DP-Z C16-18           0.543    0.5430    -0.000069
    COL 135 Sector RA-M B8-3      0.495    0.4953    -0.00069
    Synuefe KI-Q D6-84            0.379    0.3787     0.00080
    Synuefe YP-V D3-56            0.283    0.2832    -0.00066
    Synuefe YP-V D3-58            0.275    0.2749     0.00037
    Synuefe VB-H B16-0            0.284    0.2836     0.0014
    Synuefe JJ-E B17-1            0.211    0.2112    -0.0011
    Synuefe HI-Z B18-0            0.144    0.1435     0.0032
    Synuefe GI-Z B18-0            0.136    0.1356     0.0031
    Synuefe JD-Z B18-0            0.146    0.1462    -0.0013
    Synuefe FB-V D3-16            0.164    0.1640     0.00020
    Synuefe JO-X B19-0            0.113    0.1133    -0.0022
    Synuefe TU-K C10-2            0.108    0.1076     0.0038
    Synuefe RU-K C10-2            0.154    0.1542    -0.0015
    Spirograph Sector DB-N B7-0   0.124    0.1239     0.00062
    Spirograph Sector GH-L B8-0   0.118    0.1185    -0.0038
    





    Now about the number-4 wail that seems to be unresolved.

    While I was flying around and scanning planets with the probe while trying to find a way near the probe home system I noted something interesting about the number-4 wail: The number-4 wail isn't 6 numbers.

    Certain planets (Merope 5C, gas giants, some others) will transmit the '4' but no data for it.
    Most planets will transmit '4' followed by 3 pairs of ( Integer, Real number ).
    Some planets will transmit only 1 or 2 pairs.

    The full translated data set I gathered is available in the following address: http://jubjubnest.net/~wace/elite/

  3. #9828
    Hey guys, this transmission is that long (Up nefore ads scan)? From 01:30


  4. #9829
    Originally Posted by Lordxenu View Post (Source)
    2 = I-- = Gravity (this my ropiest since there's no reason for the image to tie to gravity other than it was the last one left)
    Two things falling to the surface at the same rate?

  5. #9830
    Originally Posted by Wace View Post (Source)
    Now about the number-4 wail that seems to be unresolved.
    Nevermind! Seems it was solved while I was typing out that message!

    So I'm guessing now we know both the system and the composition of the planet within the system - if only it wasn't permit locked.

  6. #9831
    Wail 4 has been decoded as atmospheric data, check a few pages back. MB also responded with a congrats ion that.

    So Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 is permit locked? But it appears to be Homeworld, or at least reference for UP scans.

    Do we have a name from Lore for Thargoid Homeworld? Thargonia? Thargon? Tharg?

  7. #9832
    Originally Posted by Queex View Post (Source)
    Two things falling to the surface at the same rate?

    Could well be it does seem to tie in quite nicely. I think the key part of the hint from the newsletter could refer to key in the key / legend sense of a map more than a key to unlock a door. The picture tells us what they are doing to help us decode the wails. It's just that we decoded the wail without using the spectogram

  8. #9833
    maaaybee... get rep with pre-logistics, get a permit into these systems on the 28th?

  9. #9834
    Originally Posted by Wace View Post (Source)
    The probe home world is permit locked.

    I've been looking into the headerless number: It is distance compared to Merope.

    In Merope the number is 1.
    Near Merope the number is near 1. Either less than or greater depending on the direction.
    The further you go, the more the number diverges.

    I checked the value in the following systems:

    Code:
    System                          X        Y        Z      Value
    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Merope 5C                  -78.59  -149.63  -340.53      1.000
    Synuefe KI-Z B33-0          74.53  -149.38  -339.97      0.850
    COL 285 Sector LS-A B14-1  -78.66  -150.59   -49.25      1.177
    Wredguia FN-Q B33-1        -78.00   175.81  -341.13      1.149
    Triangulating these values landed me in coordinates: (687.07, -362.18, -697.24).

    The closest system to these coordinates is Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 with coordinates: (687.0625, -362.53125, -697.0625).

    This can be verified by calculating the expected distance and comparing that to the probe distance for different systems.

    Code:
    System                        Probe      Calc     Difference
    Merope                            1    1.0000    -0.000021
    Synuefe KI-Z B33-0             0.85    0.8500    -0.000025
    COL 285 Sector LS-A B14-1     1.177    1.1770     0.000030
    Wredguia FN-Q B33-1           1.149    1.1492    -0.00013
    Hyades Sector ZU-Y D113       1.043    1.0430     0.000012
    Synuefe TI-Z B33-1            0.697    0.6975    -0.00073
    Synuefe DP-Z C16-18           0.543    0.5430    -0.000069
    COL 135 Sector RA-M B8-3      0.495    0.4953    -0.00069
    Synuefe KI-Q D6-84            0.379    0.3787     0.00080
    Synuefe YP-V D3-56            0.283    0.2832    -0.00066
    Synuefe YP-V D3-58            0.275    0.2749     0.00037
    Synuefe VB-H B16-0            0.284    0.2836     0.0014
    Synuefe JJ-E B17-1            0.211    0.2112    -0.0011
    Synuefe HI-Z B18-0            0.144    0.1435     0.0032
    Synuefe GI-Z B18-0            0.136    0.1356     0.0031
    Synuefe JD-Z B18-0            0.146    0.1462    -0.0013
    Synuefe FB-V D3-16            0.164    0.1640     0.00020
    Synuefe JO-X B19-0            0.113    0.1133    -0.0022
    Synuefe TU-K C10-2            0.108    0.1076     0.0038
    Synuefe RU-K C10-2            0.154    0.1542    -0.0015
    Spirograph Sector DB-N B7-0   0.124    0.1239     0.00062
    Spirograph Sector GH-L B8-0   0.118    0.1185    -0.0038
    





    Now about the number-4 wail that seems to be unresolved.

    While I was flying around and scanning planets with the probe while trying to find a way near the probe home system I noted something interesting about the number-4 wail: The number-4 wail isn't 6 numbers.

    Certain planets (Merope 5C, gas giants, some others) will transmit the '4' but no data for it.
    Most planets will transmit '4' followed by 3 pairs of ( Integer, Real number ).
    Some planets will transmit only 1 or 2 pairs.

    The full translated data set I gathered is available in the following address: http://jubjubnest.net/~wace/elite/
    Read back a page or 2

  10. #9835
    Originally Posted by Lordxenu View Post (Source)
    Could well be it does seem to tie in quite nicely. I think the key part of the hint from the newsletter could refer to key in the key / legend sense of a map more than a key to unlock a door. The picture tells us what they are doing to help us decode the wails. It's just that we decoded the wail without using the spectogram
    In hindsight, calling the spectrogram a 'key' in green suggests a 'key' like a chart legend, which is what it turned out to be.

  11. #9836
    Life is full of surprises. Especially in ED to.

  12. #9837
    Originally Posted by Wace View Post (Source)
    Nevermind! Seems it was solved while I was typing out that message!

    So I'm guessing now we know both the system and the composition of the planet within the system - if only it wasn't permit locked.
    Wanna get wierded ?
    Your system was trilaterated a couple of weeks ago on EDSM. Why would anyone trilaterate a Permit System ? It has to of been of special interest to them

    https://www.edsm.net/show-distances/...tor+FY-N+c21-3

  13. #9838
    Originally Posted by Michael Brookes View Post (Source)
    I think it was most impressive. I was a little worried at times at the direction people were taking, but exploration of ideas is part of the fun :-)

    Michael
    I don't know how to ask this, so I will just ask: Is there any comment you can make on the description I have for the "three lines" on the message central panel, which is written up here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...=1#post4320914 and described in other posts? I have to state the fuzzyness of the measurement means the three lines are within Merope 5Cs orbital plane measurements with a reasonable tolerance, but I have not completely discounted that they could refer to another world.

    So far I think the lines still make the best sense for determining the baseline Time-0, base location and a fixed vector, and fit so nicely in reverse as verification of their purpose. The suspense is killing me

    Of couse if you can't say anything about it, I will understand

  14. #9839
    Originally Posted by Niamhy View Post (Source)
    afaik the reason Capital Ships dont' supercruise is there was a summit, the London Convention (?) in which limits were placed on Frameshift to "stop an arms race" of huge ships travelling superfast. I think i read that on Galnet or somewhere
    Here we go

     Galactic News: Economic Turmoil Ahead?


    12 AUG 3302

    According to the Galactic Finance Times, analysis of the largest corporations in the Federation and the Empire reveals evidence of a significant economic downturn in the coming years.

    "We're seeing poor revenue forecasts for a wide range of corporations, including big names like Sirius, Gutamaya and Core Dynamics," said a correspondent for the Galactic Finance Times. "They should be concentrating on marketing to leverage new product ranges, but instead they're diverting resources into intensive research and development. They're ignoring the traditional sales cycle, and we don't know why. It's perplexing."

    Shareholders have seen poor returns on their investments in recent months, with stock prices dropping across multiple sectors, although this has given others a chance to pick up stock at bargain prices. Several of the pertinent corporations were contacted by the Galactic Finance Times, but none deigned to respond.

    Despite the GFT's report, some commentators blame the downturn on the London Treaty, which was signed by the galaxy's three major powers in 3278 following the introduction of the frame shift drive. The treaty enforces strict tonnage limitations for capital ships, and was aimed at preventing an arms race, but in recent years it has come to be perceived as a barrier to economic development.

    One option for investors looking for a risky but possibly lucrative venture is a start-up called MetaDrive Inc., a small company based in the Chi Orionis system specialising in hyperdrive research. The company is reported to be seeking investment.
    Though that could just refer to the Tonnage of the Capital ships in General, as per the Historic London Treaty, tonnage and main battery limits

  15. #9840
    *cue twilight zone music* someone knows something we don't