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Thread: Serious Question, Why cant we name and shame ?

  1. #16
    You can say it is because of PC and SJW.
    You can say it is because people can't take it like they used to 20years ago

    But in the it is pretty much:

    Because the last thing this game needs is organised witch-hunts, especially against players who have been targetted for a laugh or some pettiness.
    Also this forum would descend into:

    "Did not"

    "Did so"

    "DID NOT!"

    "DID DID DID!"

    "DID NOT TIMES TEN!"

    "DID SO TIMES A MILLION!!!!"

    "YOUR MUM"

    etc. etc.

    Also just imagine the troll wars between 'muh pve!!!' and 'muh dps!!!' groups. I think that a moderated forum is better than a burning pile of -Redacted-.

  2. #17
    how about, if someone player attacks or kills you, there was an option at the station to set a bounty on their head ? you would only get that option if they had actually done something to you?

  3. #18
    Originally Posted by Zeeman View Post (Source)
    The solution is simple. "naming and shaming" should require video evidence.
    Which can be doctored quite easily.

    Originally Posted by valbarr View Post (Source)
    how about, if someone player attacks or kills you, there was an option at the station to set a bounty on their head ? you would only get that option if they had actually done something to you?
    Still too easy to exploit.

    Orbiting inside the Roche Limit of sanity

  4. #19
    Geez, some people take everything and draw the worst possible conclusions about why it is the way it is.

    The "no naming & shaming" thing on here is one of the most responsible, sensible and mature things about the place.

    If that's not your style, there's Reddit.

  5. #20
    or not even a bounty, how about you can talk to the local station news feed, and tell them what happened to you, and they could put the commanders name on there news feed ?

  6. #21
    Originally Posted by Jukelo View Post (Source)
    Because then anyone could start a witch hunt by claiming valbarr and Rob At Work are griefing noobs in Mobius. And since angry mobs rarely bother with such minor details as lack of evidence, you would have no recourse to clean your name.
    This is the reason. All too easy for a troll to work up a froth in the forum as it is.

  7. #22
    To avoid handbag fights over he said, she said situations.
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  8. #23
    Originally Posted by valbarr View Post (Source)
    or not even a bounty, how about you can talk to the local station news feed, and tell them what happened to you, and they could put the commanders name on there news feed ?
    Because there's no way to verify the authenticity of your claims.

    Orbiting inside the Roche Limit of sanity

  9. #24
    Originally Posted by GreyAreaUK View Post (Source)
    Which can be doctored quite easily.



    Still too easy to exploit.
    how is it to easy to exploit give examples ?

  10. #25
    Because we cannot expect the moderators here to carry out investigations into what is or isn't a valid claim against another player. Can you imagine how much grief they would get if they had to make decisions like that? Their job is to enforce the house rules here, not adjudicate on players behaviour in-game. If you want to name and shame on your own site or social media space, go ahead. Just don't expect others to publish your claim.

  11. #26
    Pretty much as has been said above - society has gone spineless. Everybody is too worried about everyone else, and has all but forgotten about themselves. We walk around miserable because we think if we're happy, someone else is not. And spending so much time worrying about those who are unwilling to worry about themselves, take care of themselves, entertain themselves, be happy themselves, makes everyone else miserable.

    We make up nonsense words, denigrate ourselves, abandon common sense because someone else might feel bad. And then we top off this giant s--t sundae with media sensationalism then put a big dingleberry on top of it by shaming anyone who questions what's wrong with this picture.

    Shame on all of us for allowing this to happen.

  12. #27
    Originally Posted by GreyAreaUK View Post (Source)
    Because there's no way to verify the authenticity of your claims.
    im talking about the game doing the verification, it wouldnt let you make a claim of the person didnt attack you or kill you. you would only be able to accuse someone, that the game knows did something.

  13. #28
    Originally Posted by metascrawl View Post (Source)
    Because we cannot expect the moderators here to carry out investigations into what is or isn't a valid claim against another player. Can you imagine how much grief they would get if they had to make decisions like that? Their job is to enforce the house rules here, not adjudicate on players behaviour in-game. If you want to name and shame on your own site or social media space, go ahead. Just don't expect others to publish your claim.
    Could you imagine if, instead, they took a backboned position and said "You people created this, you work it out for yourselves."? Make people take responsibility for their own actions? Inconceivable.

    We all know we're not responsible for our own actions, we're just victims.

  14. #29
    Originally Posted by Rob At Work View Post (Source)
    Because - Political Correctness

    and in today's world the minority is the new majority
    What? I've seen political correctness brought up in a lot of odd contexts, but this is perhaps the barmiest. Family guy flashback-level non sequitur right here.

  15. #30
    Originally Posted by Zeeman View Post (Source)
    The solution is simple. "naming and shaming" should require video evidence. Honestly, not that it matters, easy enough to combat log, hide in Solo/Group modes... Let's see the angry mobs throw their flaming pitch forks into Solo...

    Z...
    Which then leads you to the second issue, and probably the most important one: Frontier explicitely forbids harassement, no matter the context. There is a more than reasonable assumption that naming and shaming would be used exclusively to harass players (that's almost literally what the OP describes), both in and out of the game.

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