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  1. #91
    Originally Posted by ModishNouns View Post (Source)
    Is this all revealed through Ram Tah missions and in game content or is there some external lore?

    You may find this useful. It's all in one place

    http://remlok-industries.fr/1030/the-guardians-lore/?lang=en



  2. #92
    Originally Posted by Dedhed View Post (Source)
    Thanks to Ozric for the heads up on this. In response to the "Barcodes" bullet point, I went googling and this thread is the only thing I could find. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...ply-randomness

    Here's the image Clanga posted there

    http://i.imgur.com/1Tp4lJg.png
    looks like basic dna, piano keys OR morse code?


    Originally Posted by Thatchinho View Post (Source)
    The Guardians didn't use AIs without concern though. The war that wiped them out was fought over the AIs. So, just to outline in brief:

    -Basic AIs were created
    -Guardians developed brain implants which allowed them to connect themselves directly to their network.
    -The Implants provided extra processing power and allowed the AI to develop sentience.
    -This resulted in an exponential increase in the development of science & technology
    -More Guardians got implanted to keep up.

    Guardians society then split roughly along the lines of those who were implanted and those who didn't accept the new technology. The latter became a religious movement which eventually exiled all of the Guardians who had accepted the technology.

    The AIs at this point were still virtual beings that only existed as part of the network. However they wanted to be able to exist independently and sought to achieve this. The religious group turned to violence, not just to prevent it, but also against the Guardians who accepted the AIs.

    This led to the second civil war which ultimately wiped out the Guardians. (Although there's also the 'Foe/Adversary' which may have been responsible for their final eradication.)

    Anyway, on a few of your main points...

    Yeah, a FTL network of minds could potentially be the basis for a collective mind. There's also the exiles to consider here- we don't know what happened to them, but we do know they were implanted, and hence could also connect directly to networks, and also act as hosts to AIs.

    If the Thargoids were the Guardian AIs then major parts of Guardian society embraced, supported and fought for them. Why would the AIs act against all Guardians?
    Maybe the AI has lost a lot of its original ideals much like dna changes in humans maybe they now recognise ALL guardians as the same thing?

    Originally Posted by Dedhed View Post (Source)
    Considering this quote by CMDR acidburn2k20 along with the image supplied by Clanga

    and this from Erid



    Made me curious, so I went searching and found that they really do look similar. This image is:
    Whole human karyotype depicted by ideograms



    The image doesn't look like the guardian one so maybe the blocks are morse code or something else?

  3. #93
    Originally Posted by Atrox Lux View Post (Source)
    You may find this useful. It's all in one place

    http://remlok-industries.fr/1030/the-guardians-lore/?lang=en


    Sorry to have to do this, but unless it's changed recently, that site doesn't have word for word copies of the messages. A lot of it's fine, but some of it is paraphrased to the extent that it's wrong.

    Best to use the Canonn one:

    https://canonn.science/codex/the-guardians/

  4. #94
    Originally Posted by Thatchinho View Post (Source)
    Sorry to have to do this, but unless it's changed recently, that site doesn't have word for word copies of the messages. A lot of it's fine, but some of it is paraphrased to the extent that it's wrong.

    Best to use the Canonn one:

    https://canonn.science/codex/the-guardians/
    No problem!

    I used the remlok version as the spreadsheet version I had wasn't very user friendly. English isn't his first language, which may account for the discrepencies.

  5. #95
    I went to an ancient ruin site, and did some scanning stuff.

    Is there actually some method to the combinations, or was it just brute forced?


    Because... well, I only got two right, and I am never going back to try any more, there's a whole lot of combinations.... surely there was something I was missing?

  6. #96
    Originally Posted by Novo Mundus View Post (Source)
    I went to an ancient ruin site, and did some scanning stuff.

    Is there actually some method to the combinations, or was it just brute forced?


    Because... well, I only got two right, and I am never going back to try any more, there's a whole lot of combinations.... surely there was something I was missing?
    It was brute forced. If there were clues we completely missed them.

  7. #97
    Originally Posted by Novo Mundus View Post (Source)
    I went to an ancient ruin site, and did some scanning stuff.

    Is there actually some method to the combinations, or was it just brute forced?


    Because... well, I only got two right, and I am never going back to try any more, there's a whole lot of combinations.... surely there was something I was missing?
    I used this https://elitepve.com/viewtopic.php?t=7179 Which is outdated, but gives some useful tips and was good as a beginning guide.

    And the cannon maps for the ruins https://ruins.canonn.technology/

    And the spreadsheet showing the combinations for each obelisk https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...3es/edit#gid=0

  8. #98
    It wouldn't surprise me if Thargoids end up being a cautionary tale of allowing AI to run riot.

  9. #99
    Originally Posted by LordZoltan View Post (Source)
    It wouldn't surprise me if Thargoids end up being a cautionary tale of allowing AI to run riot.
    Well... personally I think that particular tale is yet to come!

  10. #100
    Awesome! A dedicated Guardian thread! I'll come back to this later to put in my 50 cents.

  11. #101
    What is the latest thinking on the Skaudai sites? I can't find much at all on Canonn.

    I am there at the moment if anyone has any unfinished business they would like me to check out.

  12. #102
    Originally Posted by ModishNouns View Post (Source)
    What is the latest thinking on the Skaudai sites? I can't find much at all on Canonn.

    I am there at the moment if anyone has any unfinished business they would like me to check out.
    If you've got the RT mission then it'd be good to double check that the data from those sites is the same as from the main bubble.

    Some other suggestions for things for comparison to the ruins in the main bubble:
    - images of the bottom of the Relic Towers
    - images of the Relic, showing the pattern of triangles on it and the object inside
    - Recordings of the sounds from the obelisks

    Maybe have a scout around for new ruins and braintree sites.

  13. #103
    Could we have a link to the brain trees spreadsheet in the OP please?

  14. #104
    Originally Posted by Thatchinho View Post (Source)
    If you've got the RT mission then it'd be good to double check that the data from those sites is the same as from the main bubble.

    Some other suggestions for things for comparison to the ruins in the main bubble:
    - images of the bottom of the Relic Towers
    - images of the Relic, showing the pattern of triangles on it and the object inside
    - Recordings of the sounds from the obelisks

    Maybe have a scout around for new ruins and braintree sites.
    Roger that.

    I'm just about to report a new BT field at Skaudai, when I can find the spreadsheet, and I'm feeling quite pleased with myself, so I'll head back up to the ruins to take some pictures next.

  15. #105
    Originally Posted by ModishNouns View Post (Source)
    Roger that.

    I'm just about to report a new BT field at Skaudai, when I can find the spreadsheet, and I'm feeling quite pleased with myself, so I'll head back up to the ruins to take some pictures next.
    Nice work! Worth reporting it over here:

    https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...ata-Collection

    Someone on there should know where the spreadsheet is too.

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