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Thread: Thargoid Data Gathering Effort: We need your help!

  1. #31
    Originally Posted by spameroo View Post (Source)
    Hey awesome, thanks to whoever got this stickied!

    I have a question for all you who've been encountering our new spiral space friends: do thargoid encounters get logged in the PlayerJournal files in any recognizable manner? I was out near Colonia when 2.4 dropped and haven't been able to play enough to get back to the bubble yet, or I'd check myself. I'm just wondering if people's journal logs might be an untapped data source we could use to populate the spreadsheet.

    (For the record, I don't think this idea should run afoul of Canonn's proscription on info obtained thru data mining, since AFAIK the Journal only logs data available to you in-game, as it becomes available.)
    The drops into USS are logged, but not the markings

  2. #32
    Originally Posted by Factabulous View Post (Source)
    The drops into USS are logged, but not the markings
    Thanks for answering. Even without info on the markings, having precisely time-stamped and location-stamped records of the USS drops could tell us something. If nothing else, it means the ability to collect data from before the spreadsheet became active

  3. #33

    Thargoids stink!

    Hello Cmdrs,

    Happy to help sciencing the sh.. out of the Thargoids!

    I modified my old Hyperdiction mapper to visualize the new data we got from M. Volgrands spreadsheets.
    The first version is ready now, but i'll update it sooner or later because not everything is working as intended

    The app shows all Thargoid activities as a heatmap, aswell as Hyperdictions between systems (shown as connecting lines).
    You can scubb the timeslider to see the activities evolving (not working for Hyperdictions yet).



    ThargoidMapper is done in Unity and Windows only, you can download it from dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubas1lvwf5...apper.zip?dl=0

    Just unpack und run.

    If you want to modify the databases, here is a description:

    After installing, locate the following path:

    ED_ThargoidMapper\ED_ThargoidMapper_Data\special\

    There are the following files:

    referenceSystems.tsv: Here you can add systems that are always included. Does not do much at the moment.
    externalSystems.tsv: All system informations for this app is gathered from EDDB, but not all systems are included in this database. Here you can add additional systems by name and position
    import_ThargoidInteractions.tsv: This is the Activities spreadsheet exported directly from the Google-Spreadsheat.
    import_ThargoidHyperdictions.tsv: This is the Hyperdiction spreadsheet exported directly from the Google-Spreadsheat.


    All we need now is YOU to gather more information and add it to the spreadsheets!


    Cheers!

  4. #34
    Originally Posted by piranha9 View Post (Source)
    Hello Cmdrs,

    Happy to help sciencing the sh.. out of the Thargoids!

    I modified my old Hyperdiction mapper to visualize the new data we got from M. Volgrands spreadsheets.
    The first version is ready now, but i'll update it sooner or later because not everything is working as intended

    The app shows all Thargoid activities as a heatmap, aswell as Hyperdictions between systems (shown as connecting lines).
    You can scubb the timeslider to see the activities evolving (not working for Hyperdictions yet).

    https://i.imgur.com/RgXEsVQ.jpg

    ThargoidMapper is done in Unity and Windows only, you can download it from dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ubas1lvwf5...apper.zip?dl=0

    Just unpack und run.

    If you want to modify the databases, here is a description:

    After installing, locate the following path:

    ED_ThargoidMapper\ED_ThargoidMapper_Data\special\

    There are the following files:

    referenceSystems.tsv: Here you can add systems that are always included. Does not do much at the moment.
    externalSystems.tsv: All system informations for this app is gathered from EDDB, but not all systems are included in this database. Here you can add additional systems by name and position
    import_ThargoidInteractions.tsv: This is the Activities spreadsheet exported directly from the Google-Spreadsheat.
    import_ThargoidHyperdictions.tsv: This is the Hyperdiction spreadsheet exported directly from the Google-Spreadsheat.


    All we need now is YOU to gather more information and add it to the spreadsheets!


    Cheers!
    Awesome thanks! , pity we can't have EDDi feed the information on NHSS locations directly into the database .

    Unfortunately it doesn't run, instant crash with a crash log, where should I send the logs?
    Btw Win7 64 bit here, partial rig spec in sig.

  5. #35
    Originally Posted by piranha9 View Post (Source)
    Hello Cmdrs,

    Happy to help sciencing the sh.. out of the Thargoids!!

    Amazing work, thanks for this.

  6. #36
    Originally Posted by Assimilator1 View Post (Source)
    Unfortunately it doesn't run, instant crash with a crash log, where should I send the logs?
    Btw Win7 64 bit here, partial rig spec in sig.
    Damn.. why does this always happen?

    in the "ED_ThargoidMapper\ED_ThargoidMapper_Data" folder, there should be an "output_log.txt" file. if you could pm me this one, i'll check whats causing this.

  7. #37
    Originally Posted by piranha9 View Post (Source)
    Damn.. why does this always happen?

    in the "ED_ThargoidMapper\ED_ThargoidMapper_Data" folder, there should be an "output_log.txt" file. if you could pm me this one, i'll check whats causing this.
    Done, thanks for quick reply (btw I'll be off soon to actually play ED rather than just talk about it , but PM if need be & I'll reply later).

  8. #38
    whats the point fd will move the goal post next week can call it story line

    no thanks

  9. #39
    It would be very easy to write a plugin for EDMC to log all non human USS sightings to a webserver.

    EDMC provides a system and body on every event

    There is specific USSDrop event I think it is triggered when you drop out of supercruise at a USS
    { "timestamp":"2017-10-03T21:09:09Z", "event":"USSDrop", "USSType":"$USS_Type_NonHuman;", "USSType_Localised":"Non-Human signal source", "USSThreat":5 }

    All we need is a web server to log the events in a database and provide a URL with that accepts parameters eg. http://www.canonn.net/usslog?timestamp=2017-10-03T21:09:09Z&USSType=$USS_Type_NonHuman&USSType_Localised-Non-Human signal source&USSThreat-5

    Then Bob's your uncle. It would all get logged and all that commanders would need to do is identify USS and drop in on them.

  10. #40
    Thank you very much Piranha!

    Don't have much time tonight (I spent it actually playing ), but checking your map I realize there is a very long jump with hyperdiction there. I need to check if that was actually possible or if it may be an error.

    Will update the OP tomorrow. See ya!

  11. #41
    Interesting - I got hyperdicted while rushing across the Pleiades, so a 40+ ly hyperdiction is probably mine.

  12. #42
    Originally Posted by Factabulous View Post (Source)
    Interesting - I got hyperdicted while rushing across the Pleiades, so a 40+ ly hyperdiction is probably mine.
    By the legth of the line it looks around 200ly, but didn't quite check.

  13. #43
    Originally Posted by LCU No Fool Like One View Post (Source)
    It would be very easy to write a plugin for EDMC to log all non human USS sightings to a webserver.

    EDMC provides a system and body on every event

    There is specific USSDrop event I think it is triggered when you drop out of supercruise at a USS
    { "timestamp":"2017-10-03T21:09:09Z", "event":"USSDrop", "USSType":"$USS_Type_NonHuman;", "USSType_Localised":"Non-Human signal source", "USSThreat":5 }

    All we need is a web server to log the events in a database and provide a URL with that accepts parameters eg. http://www.canonn.net/usslog?timestamp=2017-10-03T21:09:09Z&USSType=$USS_Type_NonHuman&USSType_Localised-Non-Human signal source&USSThreat-5

    Then Bob's your uncle. It would all get logged and all that commanders would need to do is identify USS and drop in on them.
    I probably should have said that I would be happy to write the EDSM plugin if someone else can provide the data logging api

  14. #44
    Is there a list of the different data collected with a Flower Ship scan in Threat 5 USS ?

    I have dropped into a couple of dozen now, and have 4 types of data:

    1. Ship Flight Data (is rare for me, only managed to get this twice)
    2. Ship System Data ( Fairly common for me)
    3. Thargoid Ship Signature (Again, pretty uncommon. Only managed to collect this 3 times)
    4. Thargoid Wake Data (Common, don't even bother collecting all the time.)

    I was just wondering if there is any other Data being picked up by others??

  15. #45
    Originally Posted by LCU No Fool Like One View Post (Source)
    I probably should have said that I would be happy to write the EDSM plugin if someone else can provide the data logging api
    Do you mean that you'd be able to visualize the data if someone else could write some code to log it to some central repository?

    I think Google has an API for writing to Google Doc Spreadsheets programatically, but I'm not sure how well that would work if I tried to have it be updated directly by an EDMC plugin.

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