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  1. #3991
    Originally Posted by Maruun View Post (Source)
    Forcing everyone just buying and not even playing the game...great solution.
    In football it would look like this, i bought a 3 goal advantage. The enemy team starts buying a 4 goal advantage so the first ones are forced to put more money into the advantage ot "offset" it. So they start buying a 5 goal advantage that forces the other one getting a 7th...in the end noone plays put pays to win.

    I am not defending SC here...of all the people i am the last one that would defend anything on that shiny metabolic end product. But its hilarious how people try to argument about how other people have a advantage because they put more ti9me into it....then why the hell would one play a game when he is concerned about being at a disadvantage because he cant put so much time into a game like other....because he can use his hard earned cash to be competitive....its just like doping in sports until everyone does it and its not even worth anymore watching.
    If a game starts with such discussions in place before its even released its already failed IMO.....and seeing as we have more evidence for shady business tactics and P2W hints then actual gameplay loops......yeah

  2. #3992
    Grind in gaming has had its meaning expanded so far that the word does not really mean anything anymore. ED for instance does not really have grind, now before you all start whining. The original form of grind started in traditional MMO's, it was repeated action that was required to unlock gated content. Be that levels, skills, dungeons and the like. Spending hundreds of hours getting gear or unlocking content that you could not do with out that grind. It was added to games because players would consume content faster than the Dev could create it.

    Now why does ED have next to no grind? Because almost all gameplay is not gated, it can be done in the starter ship. Getting a bigger ships for the most part do not change the gameplay you have access to. Engineers does not actually gate any gameplay in the game. Adding Engineering upgrades makes content easier, but it does not unlock content that you could not access. So you are in no way forced to perform an activity just to unlock gameplay.

    There are two exceptions to this, ship multiplayer and deploying fighters. Both of these activities are gated by needed larger ships, but it does not take long to get ships that can perform these activities.

  3. #3993
    I used to grind quite a bit in a number of games and quite enjoyed it on the whole. Sometimes it would be because that type of mob had a rare item that could drop, ie Dark Whelpling (0.18% chance) or Deathcharger Reins (0.8% chance) other times it was because I'd run out of quests or found an area where mobs respawned fast enough that there was minimal downtime. It can be quite therapeutic in some games, irritating in others.

    I think the idea that it has to be an action you don't enjoy or one that you don't get a reward from is incorrect but I do think it has to be of decent duration to be considered grindy. Some people start calling things grind after 30 minutes and that is just lightweight.

  4. #3994
    Originally Posted by Zetta View Post (Source)
    I used to grind quite a bit in a number of games and quite enjoyed it on the whole. Sometimes it would be because that type of mob had a rare item that could drop, ie Dark Whelpling (0.18% chance) or Deathcharger Reins (0.8% chance) other times it was because I'd run out of quests or found an area where mobs respawned fast enough that there was minimal downtime. It can be quite therapeutic in some games, irritating in others.

    I think the idea that it has to be an action you don't enjoy or one that you don't get a reward from is incorrect but I do think it has to be of decent duration to be considered grindy. Some people start calling things grind after 30 minutes and that is just lightweight.
    LOL I did the Dark Whelpling thing as well.

    I would say the distinction is if the Dev are making you do it, because you can't play that dungeon, or if it is self imposed. No one forces you to spend hours trying to get that rare drop, but you are forced to farm Molten Core gear in order to run that dungeon.

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  6. #3996
    Originally Posted by Zetta View Post (Source)
    I like it when these questions pop up https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...gerous_player/
    AAAASSSSSSSP! MY bucket is full i need another one....

  7. #3997
    In retaliation for the DS reddit forum going read only, Citizens have started another. It is not going to plan.....

    https://i.imgur.com/5KEEOS3.png

  8. #3998
    Originally Posted by Dooguk View Post (Source)
    In retaliation for the DS reddit forum going read only, Citizens have started another. It is not going to plan.....

    https://i.imgur.com/5KEEOS3.png
    That is already the Model T Ford of open discussions... as if anyone could have predicted that level of bias, eh?

  9. #3999
    Originally Posted by Zetta View Post (Source)
    I like it when these questions pop up https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...gerous_player/
    A little microcosm of it all there "i dunno why they have strong feelings about SC I mean we're fair and balanced about their game - maybe it's because they're jealous their game is a little puddle of contentless dribble and scum on the boot of the future of gaming that is STAR CITIZEN that will fulfil every dream you've ever had about gaming and render their game utterly redundant, a forgotten stain on the history of space gaming which is of course utterly fair. if only they understood game development"

  10. #4000
    ps this is great too just for existing like this Showed a friend this game on reddit and YouTube...

    If only you could show him the actual game.

  11. #4001
    Originally Posted by Zetta View Post (Source)
    I like it when these questions pop up https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...gerous_player/
    Well, i've waded in, trying to get some people to understand we are not haters. Not sure whether I will get through to anyone. I suspect i will get more than one abusive reply. But one can only try.

  12. #4002
    Originally Posted by Dooguk View Post (Source)
    In retaliation for the DS reddit forum going read only, Citizens have started another. It is not going to plan.....

    https://i.imgur.com/5KEEOS3.png
    Looks like its settled down. One CR thread remains open and a DS one that was just spam got removed. Maybe they had a rogue moderator, or they realized that if they are to succeed, they have to allow some discussion.

  13. #4003
    Originally Posted by Dooguk View Post (Source)
    In retaliation for the DS reddit forum going read only, Citizens have started another. It is not going to plan.....

    https://i.imgur.com/5KEEOS3.png

    All I have to say about that subreddit after checking it out... God, their subreddit visual style is terrible.

  14. #4004
    Originally Posted by Agony_Aunt View Post (Source)
    Looks like its settled down. One CR thread remains open and a DS one that was just spam got removed. Maybe they had a rogue moderator, or they realized that if they are to succeed, they have to allow some discussion.
    The word HATE gets used a lot over there does'nt it?

    Sorry Agony_Aunt. Meant for this link https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...gerous_player/

  15. #4005
    Originally Posted by Dooguk View Post (Source)
    The word HATE gets used a lot over there does'nt it?

    Sorry Agony_Aunt. Meant for this link https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...gerous_player/
    I have always wondered how you can hate something that does not exist.

    They do seem to confuse disappointment with hate.