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    [WIP] The Elite Ship One Glance Reference

    UPDATE 2018-08-13

    Any Crusader data welcome


    UPDATE 14/7/2018

    **Added about 40 new stats from the latest Co**

    Need Data for the Chieftain and anything noticed about the Challenger/Krait.

    If you notice anything odd or mistaken please let me know.

    T9 T10 and I Think T7 have had stats changed a while ago, if anything is no longer true, please post a reply.
    Cheers.


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    Props to Alec Turner for Kindly add this to his Best of the Web (v2) sticky "Alec's Best of the forum ⤴️" thread.

    Also, here is a list of nicknames for each ship


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    Executive Summary:

    I am trying to make a table of outstanding (good and bad) stats for each ship for a table reference so that a player interested in a ship could read up on its advantages and disadvantages at a glance.


    Detail:

    I'm looking to collect a list of records (as in Guinness book of records) for each ship in the game, including best and worst stats and will compile the info in this post as it comes in.

    I mainly want to know:

    1) Quantitative stats where the ship is #1 (or a decent #2), like fastest Medium ship or most agile, best cargo/cost ratio, fastest 360 roll, biggest power distributor, longest jump range for a medium ship etc.

    2) Qualitative recommendations, like best weapon convergence, clearest view etc. are very welcome but need to be as "incontrovertible" as possible.

    Positive stats, please preface with a +
    Negative stats, please preface with a -
    If you feel it's neither + nor - but merely an observation, preface with a /

    Feel free to include a Coriolis build for illustration if you've managed to create a record breaking build.

    I've started off with a few stats and will add more.

    Note that all stats assum non-engineered modules unless specifically mentioned.



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    Imperial Fighter
    + Most Agile SLF -- Nadreck

    - Most Fragile SLF -- Nadreck


    Federal Condor
    + Fastest SLF -- Nadreck

    Alliance Taipan
    + Tankiest SLF -- Nadreck

    - Slowest SLF
    - Least Agile SLF -- Nadreck

    Sidewinder
    + The starter ship
    + Cheapest ship in the game. (32kCr)
    + Most agile ship in supercruise (360 pitch 9s / yaw 3s @ 50%)
    + Smallest ship with a coffee dispenser, although tricky to reach from cockpit seat -- Optimal_909

    - Weakest base shields in the game. (40)
    - Smallest Fuel Tank in the game. (2T)


    Eagle
    + Cheapest dedicated fighter in the game. (45kCr)
    + Most agile ship in the game. (188)

    - Weakest armour in the game (60)


    Hauler
    + Fastest average trans-system station-to-station ship per lightyear (Buckyball-RC Thread) -- Alec Turner, Esvandiary
    + Best LY/Cost Jump performance in the game. (37Ly / 52kCr)
    + Best Cargo to Hull Mass Ratio (0.64 T Hull / 1 T Cargo) -- PanTast

    - The only ship in the game with just a single weapon hardpoint.


    Adder
    + Cheapest general purpose ship in the game. (88kCr)
    + Cheapest fully capable explorer. 5 Slots: Shield, Scoop, SRV, ADS, DSS -- 13A/24B
    + Cheapest muticrew capable ship in the game. (88kCr)


    Imperial Eagle
    + Only imperial ship not rank locked.
    + First and cheapest imperial ship in the lineup.


    Viper
    + Fastest unengineered non-boost speed in the game. (512 m/s)


    Cobra Mk III
    + First ever flyable ship and longest history in Elite franchise (1984, Original BBC Elite)
    + Most popular Small ship in the game -- http://inara.cz
    + 4th most popular ship in the game overall -- http://inara.cz
    + Fastest unengineered ship with regular thrusters (Cruise 325m/s ~ Boost 464m/s) -- Stinja.
    + Most paint jobs and customisations available in the store (54) -- JohnF



    Viper Mk IV
    + Best stock armour for Small single seater - along with DBX (270HP) -- Ceekay


    Diamondback Scout
    + Coolest running ship (?) -- insanephoton
    + Sub 1MCr ship with most Utility slots. (4)
    - Heaviest Hull per Tonne of Cargo (6.07T Hull / 1T Cargo) -- PanTast


    Cobra Mk IV
    + Most cargo for a Small ship. (88T)
    + Most internals for a Small ship. (8)
    + Most Hardpoints for a Small ship. (5)
    + Excellent hardpoint placement (Top, Centre) -- Necasek0
    + The only variant/upgrade with a new cockpit -- JuicerPrime
    + Most possible hull integrity for a Small ship (2640HP) -- Darkslayer


    - Biggest surface area for a Small ship.
    - Only available if game purchased in the first year of release!
    - Slowest Small ship - along with the Hauler!!! -- Necasek0


    Type-6 Transporter
    + best cost / cargo ratio Medium ship. (1MCr / 112 Cargo)

    - Only Medium ship that can't do multi-crew (1 Crew).
    - Lowest Hull Hardness for a Medium ship (35).
    - Weakest base shields on a Medium ship (90).


    Dolphin
    + Only Small ship that can accept Luxury passengers -- insanephoton
    + Most internals of all Small ships except the limited Cobra Mk IV. (7) -- Stealthie
    + Best Yaw in supercruise of any ship (19s for 360 @ 50% thrust)
    + With 5A thrusters, its max speed is totally unaffected by any (non-engineered) modification or mass change. (<400T) -- Ahab


    Diamondback Explorer
    + Highest unengineered jump range in the game (41.8Ly)
    + Best fully "Combat Fit" jumprange in the game.
    + Best stock Armour for Small single seater - along with Viper Mk IV (270HP) -- Ceekay
    + Cheapest ship with Large hard point. (1.9MCr) -- GoldenSilver484
    + Heaviest Small - vastly reduces influence of outfitting on speed and jump range -- Necasek0


    Imperial Courier
    Fastest engineered Combat Fit ship in the game (> 800m/s ⤴️) -- mutedhiver


    Keelback
    + Cheapest ship with SLF. (3.1MCr)
    + Flappy thrusters. (Yay)


    Asp Scout
    + The highest agility score for Medium ship (165)
    + Rare, vertical main thruster arrangement -- Aiki_Zvezda
    + Lightest Medium ship hull (150T)

    - Least Utility Slots for a Medium ship (2)
    - Least Class 5/6 cargo slots for a Medium ship (1 x C5)
    - Second least cargo capacity for a Medium ship (72T) just 2 more than the FDL


    Vulture
    + Only Small ship with 2 x L weapons.
    + Largest Power Distributor in a Small ship. (C5)
    + Most Agile heavy fighter (169)
    + Hardest hull of Small ship. (55)
    + Highest MLF of Small ship (10) along with DBX

    - Weakest Canopy of any fighter (?) -- Sylveria


    Asp Explorer
    + Most popular ship overall -- http://inara.cz
    + Longest unengineered jump range for Medium ship. (38.2 Ly)


    Federal Dropship
    + Convenient Drinks Dispenser in Cockpit (LOL) -- Ceekay
    + Highest achievable hull value for Medium ship (3920) -- Ophion
    + Most internals of any medium ship (9 slots) along with python.

    - Most drifty medium ship in the game. Hence the nickname: Federal Drift Ship.


    Type-7 Transporter
    + Cheapest Large ship (17.5MCr) -- GoldenSilver484
    + Cheapest ship to carry over 200T Cargo -- GoldenSilver484
    + Best Yaw performance for Large ship. (?)
    + Top class Yaw in supercruise of any ship, 1s behind Dolphin! (20s for 360 @ 50% thrust)
    + Its unique maneuverability in supercruise makes it one of the hardest ships to successfully interdict!
    + Fantastic view from the bridge.

    - Weakest shields for Large ship. (155MJ)
    - Lowest Hardness for a Large ship (54).
    - 0.5m too tall for M pad -- GoldenSilver484


    Alliance Chieftain


    Federal Assault Ship
    + Best Yaw performance for Medium ship (?) -- Aashenfox
    + Excellent armour for Medium ship (540) -- Aashenfox
    + Excellent hard point convergence
    + Convenient Drinks Dispenser in Cockpit (LOL) -- Ceekay


    Imperial Clipper
    + Fastest Large ship (348m/s) along with Orca --GoldenSilver484
    + Most manoeuvrable Large ship (138). -- GoldenSilver484


    Alliance Challenger
    + Most Hardpoints on an Medium ship shared with FGS (7) -- TheMegaTurnip

    - Slowest Medium Ship cruise speed (152m/s) -- TheMegaTurnip
    - Slowest cruise speed of any ship in the game shared with T9 (130m/s)


    Federal Gunship
    + SLF capable -- Aashenfox
    + Most Hardpoints on an Medium ship shared with Challenger (7)
    + Biggest Power Distributor in Medium ship (C7!) along with Python -- Aashenfox
    + Convenient Drinks Dispenser in Cockpit (LOL) -- Ceekay

    - Slowest Medium Ship boost speed (325m/s)
    - Lowest Agility for a Medium ship (123)


    Krait Mk II
    + SLF capable
    + Fastest SLF capable ship when boosting (383m/s) -- Ziljan
    + Cheapest Three-Crew ship in the game (76.5MCr)
    + Only Medium ship with 3 Crew posts.
    + Most Large Hardpoints for Medium ship shared with Python (3)
    + Superb cargo scooping capability, even on surfaces -- Stealthie
    + Tends to get "overlooked" by station authorities -- Stealthie


    Orca
    + Fastest Large ship (348m/s) along with Clipper -- GoldenSilver484
    + Second highest Large ship jump range in the game behind the Anaconda. (36.2LY)
    + Lightest Large ship hull in the game (290T)
    + Excellent Yaw, second only to the Type 7.


    Fer-de-Lance
    + Strongest unengineered shields on an Medium ship. -- GoldenSilver484
    + Only Medium ship with Huge hardpoint.
    + Cheapest ship with Huge hard point. (51.6MCr) -- GoldenSilver484
    + Most utility slots on a mediuMedium ship. -- GoldenSilver484

    - Smallest fuel tank on Medium ship (8T)
    - Worst stock total jump range of any ship (28.23LY)
    - Least cargo capacity for a Medium ship (70T)
    - Least Class 5/6 slots for a Medium ship shared with Asp Scout (1 x C5)

    Python
    + 3rd most popular ship in the game -- http://inara.cz
    + Highest Cargo Capacity ship that can dock at outposts Medium ship. (292T) -- Riverside
    + Highest MLF for a Medium ship (17)
    + Most Large Hard Points for a medium ship, shared with Krait MKII (3)
    + Biggest Power Distributor in Medium ship along with FGS (C7!) -- Aashenfox
    + Arguably the most capable multi role, Medium ship in the game -- Mugur
    + 2nd highest achievable hull value for an Medium ship after FDS -- GoldenSilver484


    Type-9 Heavy
    + Best Cost/Cargo performance for Large ship.
    + Cheapest ship in the game to have multiple C8 slots. (2 x C8) -- the100thmonkey
    + Best bridge visibility in the game

    - Slowest ship in the game cruising and boosting (130m/s & 200m/s)
    - Least agile ship in the game (48)
    - Worst Supercruise handling (google sheet) -- Lightspeed


    Beluga Liner
    + Can carry the most luxury passengers in the game (40人)
    + Biggest Fuel Tank (128T) -- Necasek0
    + Most maximum range jumps per full tank of fuel (10) -- Optimal_909
    + Overall most agile Huge ship in supercruise.
    + Marvelous Canopy view.
    + Currently biggest player flyable ship in the game -- Optimal_909

    - Ship with the highest number of restricted internal slots in the game (2 x C6, 2 x C5)
    - Only ship to overheat unavoidably during regular use with regular modules.
    - Biggest, ship not able to carry an SLF with a full size Shield and Fuel Scoop simultaneously.
    - Most difficult ship to fit through the Station Mailslot (folding winglets).


    Type-10 Defender
    + Best base Hull Armour in the game (1,044)
    + Most weapon hardpoints of any ship (9)
    + Hardest Hull in the game (75)
    + Heaviest Hull in the game (1200T)
    + Coolest running Large ship -- GoldenSilver484
    + Pips in ENG have little influence on speed (25%) -- GoldenSilver484
    + Second highest Mass Lock Factor after the Cutter (26) -- Necasek0

    - Worst Supercruise handling (google sheet) -- Lightspeed


    Anaconda
    + Most popular Main fleet ship in the game -- http://inara.cz
    + Most popular Large ship in the game -- http://inara.cz
    + Longest unengineered jump range for Large ship. (41.4Ly)
    + Biggest Power Distributor in the Game (C8) along with the Federal Corvette
    + Too many others to list


    Federal Corvette
    + Most Agile of the Big 4
    + Only ship in the game with multiple Huge hardpoints. (2 x H)
    + Biggest Power Distributor in the Game (C8) along with the Anaconda

    - The highest Rank requirement Federal Ship (12, Rear Admiral)


    Imperial Cutter
    + Most Cargo space of any ship (792 T)
    + Only ship in the game with multiple C8 slots along with T9 (2 x C8)
    + Highest Mass Lock Factor in the game (27)
    + Fastest "Huge" ship (232m/s Boost 371m/s)
    + Largest thrusters of any ship (C8)
    + Strongest base shields of any ship (600MJ) -- GoldenSilver484
    + Fastest ship with SLF without boost (232m/s)

    - Most expensive ship in the game (208MCr)
    - The highest Rank requirement Imperial Ship (12, Duke)
    - Longest stopping distance of any ship in the game. (~5km)

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    no the fastest ship when engied (even if its impossible) would be the ViperMK3 with 3A per enhanced thrusters

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by son of khzvoltz View Post (Source)
    no the fastest ship when engied (even if its impossible) would be the ViperMK3 with 3A per enhanced thrusters
    That's why I'm looking for stats. Please, educate.

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    Originally Posted by son of khzvoltz View Post (Source)
    Invalid Loadout Hash.

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    Max cargo to hullmass ratio.
    Best: Hauler at 0.64 tons of hull per ton of payload.
    Worst: Diamondback Scout at 6.07 tons of hull per ton of payload

    o7

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    Originally Posted by PanTast View Post (Source)
    Max cargo to hullmass ratio.
    Best: Hauler at 0.64 tons of hull per ton of payload.
    Worst: Diamondback Scout at 6.07 tons of hull per ton of payload

    o7
    Included, Cheers.

  8. #8
    A useful resource

    Only thing to add is the Python has the highest cargo capacity that can land on an outpost.

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    I haven't got the figures to hand but a few suggestion for some of the blanks.

    DBS - coldest running ship
    Dolphin - only small ship capable of carrying luxury passenger cabins
    Python - largest cargo capacity for a medium ship

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    Originally Posted by Riverside View Post (Source)
    A useful resource

    Only thing to add is the Python has the highest cargo capacity that can land on an outpost.
    added

    Originally Posted by insanephoton View Post (Source)
    I haven't got the figures to hand but a few suggestion for some of the blanks.

    DBS - coldest running ship
    Dolphin - only small ship capable of carrying luxury passenger cabins
    Python - largest cargo capacity for a medium ship
    Added.

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    The iCourrier is the fastest ships in the game with a combat fit (got 780 m/s on mine, with weapons, 20lyr range and boosted shields).

    You can probably get a faster "racing" iEagle or Viper III, but not a combat worthy fit.

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    Federal Assault Ship
    + Excellent medium hardpoint placement
    + Most agile medium ship with excellent yaw
    + Not sensitive to engine pips or blue zone to maintain agility

    - Low nominal shield values
    - No upper utility slots (have to show belly to missiles for PD to work)
    - Vulnerable hardpoints and canopy

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    Originally Posted by Muetdhiver View Post (Source)
    The iCourrier is the fastest ships in the game with a combat fit (got 780 m/s on mine, with weapons, 20lyr range and boosted shields).

    You can probably get a faster "racing" iEagle or Viper III, but not a combat worthy fit.
    824m/s in combat fit...here I am taking out a Dangerous Corvette... What % you got on your DDs? I think in the vid I'm at 156%.


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    Cobra mkIII: most purchasable paint/skins

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    Originally Posted by JohnF View Post (Source)
    Cobra mkIII: most purchasable paint/skins
    Nice catch. Repped .

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