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Thread: Been out for over a year. What do I need to know?

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    Been out for over a year. What do I need to know?

    About a year ago (possibly more?) I was playing ED daily and went out on an exploration mission. About 12,000 ly towards the core I came across a bunch of neutron stars. This was back when they were invisible... not the pretty blue-looking things we have now.

    Anyway, I scanned a BUNCH of stuff then stopped playing altogether for various reasons.

    Just this week, I reinstalled ED and started heading back to the bubble. At about 9,000 ly from the bubble, I happened upon a neutron star. WOW! They look pretty cool now. I learned how to get the FSD boost with them and tried it out... works well!

    Not long before I went on hiatus, they had released an update with some extremely over-aggressive and deadly NPCs. It seemed like half the time I'd return to the bubble, I was interdicted and destroyed within about 1 second. I carried no cargo and there was zero reason for them to kill me. I always played in solo mode specifically to avoid these types of players, who seem ubiquitous in online PVP games, then suddenly they were appearing in AI form on solo mode. The thought of dealing with this is one of the reasons I had lost interest and quit playing altogether.

    My question is this: In the last year or so, has this changed at all, or do I still need to be terrified of the NPCs when I return? I know there was a lot of discussion about it when it came out. It seemed like players who wanted combat loved it, and players who just wanted to explore or trade (peaceful occupations) were upset about it.

    I just want to get back and sell my data without being slaughtered the second I return to civilization.
    If it IS still like this, what tactics can I use (if any) to reduce my chances of being interdicted?

    Any tips would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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    Why not contact Iridum Wing and turn your return to the galaxy into an adventure! Escorting explorers (and their valuable data) back to the bubble is (or at least was) what they do best!

    https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDanger..._are_and_what/

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    It depends. What ship are you in? Do you have shields?
    NPC's aren't that bad now but can still bite.
    Don't come back via the Pleiades.
    Colonia might be a better bet if you are that way.
    There is also a supply chain of star ports between the bubble and Colonia.

    Failing all that give the escort service Iridium Wing a call.
    https://steamcommunity.com/app/35932...1032436671053/

    Edit: Ninja'd by someone on holiday!

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    The one-shot-death hyper-engineered weaponry the AI were given when Engineers first appeared (game version 2.1) was a bug. Everyone who lost ships due to the bug have been automatically compensated for the rebuy cost, but of course if you had explo data at the time, you'd have lost that; I'm not sure if putting in a support ticket a the time gave you any compensation for that. The only ships to have hyper-engineered weaponry now are the new ATR law enforcement wings, and you won't start seeing those unless you murder a lot of innocent ships (NPC or CMDR).

    As for general pirate interdictions of explorers, most NPC pirates are now ladies/gentlemen, not psycho player-killers. If they interdict you, they will be equipped with a cargo scanner. They will scan you, then, if you are carrying cargo, will demand some of it, and give you several seconds to start ejecting it.

    If have no cargo, they will scan you, find nothing, mutter dark things about your general uselessness to them, and they will retract hardpoints and fly away.

    Psycho player-killer NPCs still exist, but I have only ever encountered them in USSs, like the famous "gold trap" USS. Stay away from USSs and you should be fine.

    So, if you are a typical explorer and you have no cargo, and you are not running any missions, then you should be left alone by NPCs. You might still get interdicted, but just submit and let them scan you; you will be left in peace.

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    Thanks for the tips. That's good to know that the insta-murder-you-for-no-reason NPCs are gone (mostly.)

    I didn't really play much after posting this thread, but in the past few days I've worked my way back to within 1000 ly on the map (putting me about 700 ly from the edge of the bubble.)

    I have no idea what my scan data will be worth (does it degrade over time?) but I'm excited to be able to afford a better ship for more exploring.

    I also need to get Horizons for landing on planets and such. Pretty exciting to be back after so long.

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    Data shouldn't degrade, but did anyone mention that exploration payouts are greatly improved for metal-rich, terraformables, WW, TCWW, Earth-likes and ammonia worlds?
    Sooo, if you have the knack for finding terraformables, it'll be a pretty payout.

    Ohhh! And there are many stations -outside- the bubble too nowadays. I listed quite a few in the hitchhiker's guide, hang on...

    Here's a link.

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    Thanks! Cool guide. I skimmed it, but will give it a proper read shortly.

    I did learn about the insanely high values on those types of worlds. Kinda makes my huge bank of neutron star scans a bit pointless but it's good to know that I can continue a lucrative exploration career without having to go 12kly again... even though I fully intend to do a very large trip once I'm better-equipped.

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    Unless you're pledged to Power Play, the only NPCs that will interdict you are pirates. Interdictions usually only happen if you are carrying cargo. If you're interdicted without cargo, submit and let them scan you.
    When they see you have no cargo, they'll grumble about not getting paid and leave you alone.
    I usually submit, boost away and re-engage SC asap. I've never lost a ship yet doing that. The worst I get is a few stray laser hits on my rear shields.

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    Youre best bet is to stay in solo and sell all your data at one of the outskirt systems like hillaries depot or rohini, omega sector mining depot etc.

    Also having a high high rep with 1 or 2 outskirt stations means since they get little traffic, missions will be much higher in rewards and easier to come by

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    I stopped in at a station on the outskirts to swap ships to something more durable and then spread my data around for maximum rep.
    For this task you want to maximize your shields, hull strength and boost speed.
    I didn't bother carrying weapons since I had no plans to turn and fight if I was interdicted. That just increases the odds of losing your ship and your remaining data.
    If interdicted, just Submit, Boost away and re-engage SC.

    First I sold a few pages to Sirius corp stations to gain rep and get my Sirius permit. You can also sell to Felicity and Prof. Palin.
    Then I sold to a number of different Fed and Empire factions. Then I got tired of doing that and sold the remaining 20 or 30 pages to whatever station I was at.

    Was never interdicted once because I wasn't carrying any cargo.

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    I MADE IT BACK!

    Stopped at the first station I saw. No interdictions. Sold all of my data there (35 pages... I plan on doing a lot more exploring, so didn't need to worry about strategizing.)

    Sadly, I only netted 80 million. However, almost a quarter of that was earned in the past week when I learned how to really get the good stuff so my next expeditions should be more lucrative.

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    Originally Posted by Skooter View Post (Source)
    I MADE IT BACK!

    Stopped at the first station I saw. No interdictions. Sold all of my data there (35 pages... I plan on doing a lot more exploring, so didn't need to worry about strategizing.)

    Sadly, I only netted 80 million. However, almost a quarter of that was earned in the past week when I learned how to really get the good stuff so my next expeditions should be more lucrative.
    To get more you generally need to detail scan hmcs, aws/els/wws, nuetrons/bhs, and any terraformables/ringed versions of that which is listed above.

    Not sure if you did that or not but simply honking and jumping only earns a small amount

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    Originally Posted by Skooter View Post (Source)
    I MADE IT BACK!

    Stopped at the first station I saw. No interdictions. Sold all of my data there (35 pages... I plan on doing a lot more exploring, so didn't need to worry about strategizing.)

    Sadly, I only netted 80 million. However, almost a quarter of that was earned in the past week when I learned how to really get the good stuff so my next expeditions should be more lucrative.
    I'm not questioning your improvements in exploration, there are surely there but the fact that you earned a quarter of your Exploration income over the past week when you started playing again is in fact due to the huge buff on Exploration payouts that was implemented by FD sometime end of last year IIRC. The buff doesn't apply to bodies scanned before that update though, so all your previous scans are "only" worth the previous amounts. Hence the huge part of income brought to you only last week.

    Exploration will earn you much much more than it used to. Here you have another incentive to Keep on doing so

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    Originally Posted by Skooter View Post (Source)
    About a year ago (possibly more?) I was playing ED daily and went out on an exploration mission. About 12,000 ly towards the core I came across a bunch of neutron stars. This was back when they were invisible... not the pretty blue-looking things we have now.

    Anyway, I scanned a BUNCH of stuff then stopped playing altogether for various reasons.

    Just this week, I reinstalled ED and started heading back to the bubble. At about 9,000 ly from the bubble, I happened upon a neutron star. WOW! They look pretty cool now. I learned how to get the FSD boost with them and tried it out... works well!
    Welcome back! And you're pretty brave and/or foolish trying your first FSD boosts with a full cache of exploration data. Respect, either way!

    Originally Posted by Lance 'Spacecat' D. View Post (Source)
    Data shouldn't degrade, but did anyone mention that exploration payouts are greatly improved for metal-rich, terraformables, WW, TCWW, Earth-likes and ammonia worlds?
    Sooo, if you have the knack for finding terraformables, it'll be a pretty payout.
    That's correct, payouts for these were significantly (up to x10 IIRC) increased some time back.

    Unfortunately the payout is based on the SCAN-date, not the SELL-date. So any bodies scanned a long time ago will still pay based on the lower values. Luckily, most of us aren't in exploration for the credits

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    BTW, if you want to switch ships well before entering the bubble, there are shipyards in the Crescent, Pencil, and Seagull nebulae.

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