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  1. #211
    Seriously dude get a life you know dang well most of those didn't have feathers. I should have known you were just trolling this whole time.

  2. #212
    Originally Posted by Andrew2018 View Post (Source)
    Seriously dude get a life you know dang well most of those didn't have feathers. I should have known you were just trolling this whole time.
    Don't feed the trolls.

    They exist because of your salt. mmm tasty salty tears....

  3. #213
    OK, Pyro, those edits are only detrimental to the point originally made. On the other hand, it could look like that if it's due to gene editing (but I'm not sure that'd be what they should look like in-game)

  4. #214
    Yeah, this is starting to get way out of hand. While some ornithischians were found with feathers and quills, most of them didn’t have them; the theory that Triceratops had quills was recently discarded. It was the theropods, specifically the coelosaurians, that are agreed to have varying degrees of feather coverage.

  5. #215
    There is no need to lock any threads. Just stay cool and don't react to all the stuff being posted. It will all be over soon.


  6. #216
    Reminds me of this:


  7. #217
    Originally Posted by Dragonychus View Post (Source)
    Reminds me of this:
    If they had that thermal armor they would still be alive today.

    (OH that's rite! They do! They are. But not all of 'em.)


    There is not much resistance to feathered dinosaurs left here, so JP will have a look and if nobody complains any more, they might implement it into the game. That is my belief.

  8. #218
    And I really hope you're right

  9. #219
    New dinosaur (the only today, I need to work too and this one needed more work than others species) : Gallimimus ! The hand are hidden because it's pronating, so I can't make a better look for this one (but I'm proud of the feathers effect, it look better than I expect)

  10. #220
    Personally while I appreciate the updated knowledge as we learn it, and I think it would be cool to see models of such creatures in a game. I personally do not believe they belong in a JP game. It doesn't follow the JP lore at all. JP is fictional and an alternate reality to our own to put it simply and within that reality they did not have feathered variants. I mean come on, Velociraptor in the JP world is not Velociraptor in reality by any means as a good point of reference for this statement.

    Due to that fact that's why it makes little sense to incorporate feathered variations. Especially when you look at it from a lore perspective. Doesn't matter what we would have 'believed' they looked like, or what fossil records were, their DNA would have held some knowledge or input to this factor. DNA isn't reliant upon the fossilized bones we found. Due to that fact feather variations realistically would have shown up in previous movies and the book itself IF that was a factor within the universe that was created. To turn around and have it suddenly transpire down the line simply because modern theories change in our reality it doesn't reflect well within the JP reality that was created. You create a plot hole of 'well why is it suddenly feathered now, when prior it wasn't?'

    I suppose you could try and state the argument that better DNA extraction occurred due improved technology, filling in the gaps better for more pure DNA, However one would think that frog DNA would not have been the basis for filling in the gaps properly if utilizing this train of thought and instead it might have been instead avian DNA that would have better matched when they searched for what would fill in that gap. So again you run into plot holes within the world constructed in my opinion.

    The only possible means I could see making it seem feasible and possible to happen well within the JP universe is instead of trying to state that new modern science discovered they might have had feathers. (Because again, they were dealing more in DNA then what fossils showed, and DNA would have told them much quicker if there was feathers or not) Would instead be that with experimentation in Ingen and their hybrids, they opted to try and use Avian DNA to fill in the gaps and that created feathered variations.

    So more specifically within JW:E they could have avian DNA be one of the possible attributes to put in the Genetic code to cause a possible mutation that added a feathered variation within the JP world.

  11. #221
    Normally I would agree with those that say "No Feathers, Get Over It."

    But, then I recalled that one of their Tech Tree contractors, Dr. Kajal Dua of the Science Division,
    is said to strive to clone natural (AKA "Scientifically Accurate") Dinosaurs if you follow her path 100%.

    This makes me wonder if this will result in Feathered variants of cloned Dinosaurs
    (or, at the very least, those quill-like proto-feathers like the JP3 Raptors had) if you do as she tells you.


    I dunno, I'm just thinking out loud here.

  12. #222
    Exactly, and there was a great conversation in the first book between Wu and Hammond about upgrading and changing their dinosaurs, so I donít see why we canít upgrade to feathers at some stage in the game. Making changes to the geneome is already established JP cannon, even if feather arent

  13. #223
    Originally Posted by Lunchboxx77 View Post (Source)
    Exactly, and there was a great conversation in the first book between Wu and Hammond about upgrading and changing their dinosaurs, so I don’t see why we can’t upgrade to feathers at some stage in the game. Making changes to the geneome is already established JP cannon, even if feather arent
    Yes, I remember. As I recall, Wu wanted to make the Dinosaurs more accurate, while Hammond thought they were fine as they were.

    The same conversation was later retooled in Jurassic World, where Dr. Wu makes clear
    that "nothing in Jurassic World is natural", and they have always created modified hybrids since the beginning.

    Which in my opinion, makes the whole "Accuracy" argument a moot one,
    when we already know that these cloned dinosaurs have altered DNA.

  14. #224
    Originally Posted by MetroXLR View Post (Source)
    Yes, I remember. As I recall, Wu wanted to make the Dinosaurs more accurate, while Hammond thought they were fine as they were.
    when we already know that these cloned dinosaurs have altered DNA.
    Actual exchange was a bit different. Hammond wanted authentic, scientifically accurate dinosaurs, Wu wanted to modify them to be more docile to fit the public perception of big lizards =
    "The dinosaurs we have now are real," Wu said, pointing to the screens around the room, "but in certain ways they are unsatisfactory, Unconvincing. I could make them better."
    "Better in what way?"
    "For one thing, they move too fast," Henry Wu said. "People aren't accustomed to seeing large animals that are so quick. I'm afraid visitors will think the dinosaurs look speeded up, like film running too fast."
    "But, Henry, these are real dinosaurs. You said so yourself."
    "I know," Wu said. "But we could easily breed slower, more domesticated dinosaurs."
    "Domesticated dinosaurs?" Hammond snorted. "Nobody wants domesticated dinosaurs, Henry. They want the real thing."
    "But that's my point," Wu said. "I don't think they do. They want to see their expectation, which is quite different."

    I'm looking forward to this game regardless of feathering (already preordered). However those who claim that licencing requirements and canonicity issues in an official JW product prevent Frontier from adding feathers have obviously never played Jurassic World: the Game or Jurassic Park Builder by Ludia.


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