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    Space pumpkins story so far and a new discovery

    Space pumpkins short story:

    First site known for long time is next to a planetary outpost on HIP 18077 6 C -38.0357 -85.6467

    Couple of weeks ago cmdr Clobbertime found a second one on HIP 37610 A 6 C A -1.4054 140.8423

    Following his discovery looking in similar systems I found 4 sites on HIP 39768


    HIP 39768 A 14 D A -1.8161 -137.3999
    HIP 39768 A 14 D A 12.3752 32.0999
    HIP 39768 A 14 D A 21.9127 24.5374
    HIP 39768 A 14 D A -3.9227 44.1731


    Pilot Pirx found couple of sites on Greae Phio QE-Q e5-4021 which is quite interesting as well, being inside a nebula.


    Today I found a new site on HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 5.8876 -107.4878
    This is again a moon of a moon in B star system orbiting around a brown dwarf.

    It is important for more than one reason.

    A. I found some bark mounds and geysers on it. Typically we expect bark mounds to be inside or very close to a nebula, but this is 79 ly from the closest one (Pencil Nebula), so maybe we find them in nebulae because we don't look in other places hard enough.

    B. I found some brain trees on it, but I do not see any ejecta craters (I cannot guarantee there aren't any, because sometimes they are really hard to see on a system map, and spotting one on the dark side of the moon will be really difficult)
    Scratch this one, after searching systematically I found small ejecta crater on the North Pole - https://i.imgur.com/h98lVdS.png

    So this is a first body found with all three known forms of life on it that I know of, and a suspect of the fact that brain trees exist on the bodies without visible ejecta craters.

    Location of all findings on HIP 41908 AB 1 C A :


    4 pumpkins sites:
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 5.8876 -107.4878
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -16.6021 -78.8721
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -19.4121 23.8399
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 20.7471 168.1912

    10 bark mounds sites:
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -1.1483 26.5604
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 10.5415 123.8627
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 9.7212 -30.1957
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 23.6257 -66.8651
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 29.8504 -174.1111
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 43.2321 -99.1151
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 54.1618 118.0985
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -36.8202 11.6801
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -41.5307 -156.2499
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -45.6182 37.6057

    6 brain trees sites:
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 2.2886 1.8509
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -3.0142 52.7901
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 35.3578 128.8526
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 68.0063 178.7662
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -24.6651 -42.4164
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -39.5813 -167.8378

    and 9 volcanic sites:
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 3.4231 -148.7106
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 11.2331 -108.0491
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 13.6156 -131.5787
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 18.5451 81.3108
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 34.8998 -173.9953
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 33.0781 -127.6561
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 49.2529 55.2995
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 52.1445 -154.3961
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A 60.6277 26.5845
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -26.4253 -87.7197
    HIP 41908 AB 1 C A -42.8693 -172.5587

    three permanent outcrops at:
    -1 // 31 , 0 // -16 and -21 //97



    I did scan the area between 90 degrees North and 19 degrees South so far. I think I am keen to try some other system for example with A star, if I manage to locate suitable candidate in the area.


    I was asked how the POI looks like, so it is initially same shrinking POI as with the Brain Trees, but at the end stays slightly bigger, so when you are horizontal above the site and your sensors are in linear mode and max range it looks like this:



    So far we have 6 systems, all are B class main star orbited by a brown dwarf, and pumpkins have been found on volcanic moons orbiting that dwarf. All moons fall within Brain Trees temperatures (between 201 and 499K), but it may not be relevant, nobody I know of surveyed similar bodies with different temperature range.

    o7




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    Brain trees are found near Guardian locations and HIP 41908 is within the Guardian zone, so that makes some sense at least.
    Interesting about the pumpkins and bark mound finds.

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    Congratulations.

    Pumpkins go well with that orange/green terrain.

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    Can we maybe collect more data for them? Like temperature, body type, galactic height and positions, class of stars, sort of volcanic activity, etc....

    I'm sure we can find more but we should collect the conditions and maybe try how wide we can stretch the conditions.
    Right now i'm prospecting a moon in the orbit of an Y-dwarf with 380 kelvin and silicate volcanism, but they are orbiting an A-class star B-class star at 2500ls distance. Maybe i can find them there too but we need more data

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    Originally Posted by Lucius-Darcia View Post (Source)
    Can we maybe collect more data for them? Like temperature, body type, galactic height and positions, class of stars, sort of volcanic activity, etc....

    I'm sure we can find more but we should collect the conditions and maybe try how wide we can stretch the conditions.
    Right now i'm prospecting a moon in the orbit of an Y-dwarf with 380 kelvin and silicate volcanism, but they are orbiting an A-class star at 2500ls distance. Maybe i can find them there too but we need more data
    Well, of course you can collect the data, I gave you exact name of the body, so what more you need to look on EDSM?

    I think searching on A class is a great idea, what method are you using?

    I am gliding along latitudes trying to be less than 30km apart, as my suspected big POI diameter is 28km. I do start with the equator and go up to 20 degrees north and south from that.

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    Originally Posted by Baton View Post (Source)
    Well, of course you can collect the data, I gave you exact name of the body, so what more you need to look on EDSM?

    I think searching on A class is a great idea, what method are you using?

    I am gliding along latitudes trying to be less than 30km apart, as my suspected big POI diameter is 28km. I do start with the equator and go up to 20 degrees north and south from that.
    I don't search for systems on EDSM but i try to find them on my way. ATM i'm staying at 5/-5 latitude and fly 90 in glide, Nose down until reaching around 30km and than nose up at 10 for good speed but not too much related to the ground.
    Sadly i haven't found anything yet but Brain Trees, but i have still hope to find myself some Space Pumpkins

    The data we should collect should be for the reason to have some indicators. so if a body has for example more than 600k that we know we can skip it without doubt. or if it has the wrong sort of volcanism, it can safe a lot of time if we find the conditions for the Pumpkins.

    I have to correct:
    The system where i am atm has a B-class star, maybe i had one or two drinks too much last night when i've logged out

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    Originally Posted by Lucius-Darcia View Post (Source)
    The data we should collect should be for the reason to have some indicators. so if a body has for example more than 600k that we know we can skip it without doubt. or if it has the wrong sort of volcanism, it can safe a lot of time if we find the conditions for the Pumpkins.
    People who search now, will say what are the criteria for pumpkins, so far we found 5 systems so nobody is certain where to look
    As for volcanism I would say any type will do, but as I searched zero bodies without volcanism, than this is just a blind guess.

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    the previous thesis was, that it has to be a silicate based volcanism. The experience, that every sort of volcanism will do it is a huge step forward
    +1 rep

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    Originally Posted by Lucius-Darcia View Post (Source)
    the previous thesis was, that it has to be a silicate based volcanism. The experience, that every sort of volcanism will do it is a huge step forward
    +1 rep
    First known one is - HIP 18077 6 C -38.0357 -85.6467 - minor rocky magma, so not sure who was saying about silicates

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    Originally Posted by Baton View Post (Source)
    First known one is - HIP 18077 6 C -38.0357 -85.6467 - minor rocky magma, so not sure who was saying about silicates
    HIP 18077 6 C has silicate-magma volcanism as ingame information says, i know that edsm says something different

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    Originally Posted by Lucius-Darcia View Post (Source)
    HIP 18077 6 C has silicate-magma volcanism as ingame information says, i know that edsm says something different
    I found four sites on HIP 39768 A 14 D A and it is metallic magma, so probably type of volcanism does not matter.

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    Spectacular find!
    And more hopefully useful information about the pumpkins and the trees.
    Congratulations!

    I'm trying it in a class F star system right now... to yet without success ...

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    Originally Posted by Pilot Pirx View Post (Source)
    Congratulations!

    I'm trying it in a class F star system right now... to yet without success ...
    Thx.
    I think you are doing the right thing. Nobody ever found the pink worms yet, but I looked at the trailer, and very likely it is similar combination that is required, just with a different main star so good luck, and let us know

    BTW - found another system:


    HIP 42003 3 D A -13.3464 -171.3861

    My Life Hunter almost too well deserves the name I gave him


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    Aweseom! Awesome! Awesome! I still can't give you rep but have tons of virtual rep. This little world is the perfect place and came at the perfect time for me to get all the remaining footage needed to finish my Geologic Short Film.

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    Originally Posted by CMDR MadRaptor View Post (Source)
    Aweseom! Awesome! Awesome! I still can't give you rep but have tons of virtual rep. This little world is the perfect place and came at the perfect time for me to get all the remaining footage needed to finish my Geologic Short Film.
    You are welcome.
    Keep in mind that on last two I only scanned a small area, and stopped after finding one site only. I am sure there is more than that, so any help is highly appreciated.

    On HIP 42003 I scanned only latitudes -12, -9, -6, -3, 0, 4, 8

    On HIP 41908 I scanned only latitudes 10, 7, 4, 0 , -3.5 , -7, -10

    (initially I was scanning 4 degrees apart, but then realized it is bit too wide and I can miss the site, so started going closer. 4 degrees is OK for body of around 400km, but those are closer to 500km)

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