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Thread: Help setting up Thrustmaster T.1600Mcontrollers w/ Elite

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    Help setting up Thrustmaster T.1600Mcontrollers w/ Elite

    Hi there. New to the forum and looking forward to setting up Elite with Oculus Rift.

    I just purchased Thrustmaster T.16000M joystick, Throttle and rudder pedals.

    Before getting lost in the rabbit hole with configuration and setup I figured I'd post here for some much needed helpful advice.

    First question is should I use TARGET software that came with the Thrustmaster or uninstall it and use the Elite Dangerous configuration?

    Should I use the T.Flight Rudder pedals or just use the joystick?

    Is the a way to just import settings that work for you guys?

    Those are the main questions.

    Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!

    - Steve

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    TARGET script is definetly pretty awsome. I would recomemend to use it as an intermediate layer between the controllers and elite. Once you get the hang on the scripting languange you can do a lot of neat things. Like using controll curves to finetune your controller (and dynamicaly adjust these curves), and assigning multiple functions to a button depending on if you press it short, long, once or twice, or together with another button. You can actally controll different applications at the same time, I have a button combination to controll a media player in the background for music.

    I don't use pedals, so no opinon on this.

    You can copy the 'bindings' from one pc to an other, but this will only work if you have the exactly same setup, its somewhere in appdata\local\frontier....options\bindings
    I could post my binding, but I use a warthog togeteher with a twcs throttle. Wouldn't work for you.

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    I am using a x52pro and no pedals, but my experience with setting up hotas controls in general, is lots and lots of trying around. Apart fro the axises (eses?) the button config was really a tough nut for me. I changed around a lot until everything was how I am using it now. So I guess it comes down a lot to preference. I'd try the pedals since you have them anyway.

    I am also using joycurves to make controls a bit less responsive and twitchy, which is especially good when flying FA off.

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    You should use TARGET if you can, but it takes some time to figure it out and set it up. I saved my standard ED binds file and my TARGET binds file in separate folders on my desktop. I swapped them when I wanted to play during the time I spent figuring out and setting up TARGET.

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    I don't use TARGET at all - I just used the Elite: Dangerous control mapping function and that has got my control interface exactly how I want it.

    All that I would advise is that you do some experimentation of your own.

    Yours Aye

    Mark H

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    Originally Posted by courtlaw View Post (Source)
    First question is should I use TARGET software that came with the Thrustmaster or uninstall it and use the Elite Dangerous configuration?
    I don't, and if you use a configuration from the link below, you're stuck with the ED configuration. In which case, wehn you have a configuration that works, make a backup and store it somewhere outside of the ED folder structure (ED uses not only the file name, but also the contents of the files themselves, so creating a backup, renaming it and keeping it in the old place may produce some interesting results...). ED updates have/hada nasty habit of destroying bindings files.

    Originally Posted by courtlaw View Post (Source)
    Should I use the T.Flight Rudder pedals or just use the joystick?
    Your choice. I didn't get the pedals, the HOTAS has enough axes, and I value my increased freedom of movement, but if you have a full simulator setup with an appropriate chair, you may feel different.

    Originally Posted by courtlaw View Post (Source)
    Is the a way to just import settings that work for you guys?
    Check out https://edrefcard.info/. Even if you don't find any settings to load, I foud that site to be immensly helpful when setting up my HOTAS.

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    I use a T16000M HOTAS myself. I have the pedals as well but never even took them out of the box.

    The default setup in ED is pretty useful, I've remapped a couple of the zoom functions but other than that I've left it pretty much alone.

    I don't use the Target software at all. Someone on another thread in here mentioned it can get quirky if you try to do to much.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    If I have both Target and the ED configurations installed will they interfere with each other or do I have to uninstall the one I'm not using?

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    Originally Posted by courtlaw View Post (Source)
    Thanks for the replies.

    If I have both Target and the ED configurations installed will they interfere with each other or do I have to uninstall the one I'm not using?
    If you use target script it will replace all your connected thrustmaster devices and replace it with a 'thrustmaster combined' device, with 40 button and 20 axis (number not neccesarily accurate). For ed that's something completly differnet, the keybindings will not recognize it if you set it to a configuration without target.

    Edit: You don't have to uninstall anything though, just replace the bindings file

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    Not to hijack your thread, OP, but could someone explain what "joystick curves" are in simple language please?

    I've not long gotten a Thrustmaster 16000.m Hotas myself, and am still wondering how best to set it up. So this is a great thread

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    Originally Posted by Spaceman Si View Post (Source)
    Not to hijack your thread, OP, but could someone explain what "joystick curves" are in simple language please?

    I've not long gotten a Thrustmaster 16000.m Hotas myself, and am still wondering how best to set it up. So this is a great thread
    The curve defines the ratio between input (movment of stick) and output (strength of control in-game). By default its linear, you move the stick 50%, you get half the power/speed whatever. By adjusting the curve you can get more precision in the lower range (great for precise manouvers like aiming and docking) while maintaning the full range.

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    Thank you! I can make sense of that - I think it might be worth spending an hour or two getting to know the joystick without actually doing any significant game -play, like the tutorials.

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    Originally Posted by Hossi View Post (Source)
    If you use target script it will replace all your connected thrustmaster devices and replace it with a 'thrustmaster combined' device, with 40 button and 20 axis (number not neccesarily accurate). For ed that's something completly differnet, the keybindings will not recognize it if you set it to a configuration without target.

    Edit: You don't have to uninstall anything though, just replace the bindings file
    So are saying that I should set the key bindings within the ED configuration menu first and then transpose that to TARGET?

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    TARGET is definitely worth it, even if only for the response curves.

    One thing to be aware of is that you will have to remap the hat switch on the top of the stick to DXHat or it won't work.

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    I've got the Thrustmaster T1600M. I don't have the pedals.

    If you're using a PC then you just map the Thrustmaster buttons to the equivalent buttons on your keyboard using the software.
    Also adjust the curves etc using the software provided.

    It creates a file with the suffix .fcf. I put this in my bindings folder.

    You then need to run the joystick profile (the .fcf file) using TARGET GUI before launching the game.

    Basically all you do with the joystick is duplicate the keys and mouse settings. Plus a few extras such as curves.
    When you match the joystick to the binding make sure you choose the analogue box not the digital ones.


    I use the joystick for pitch, roll and yaw

    I use the hat to toggle the sys-eng-wep pips.
    The left hand joystick button works as target (T on the keyboard) and the right hand as select (Space on the keyboard).

    I haven't got around to assigning the base buttons yet.

    This is a very simple arrangement but it works OK for me. I make no claims to be an expert.

    If you're interested you can download my bindings folder files from my website here:

    http://www.ianperryman.com/elite/myED.zip

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