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    Important Community Update

    Greetings Commanders,

    First of all, we would like to take a moment to thank you all for the continued support and making Elite Dangerous the incredible, community driven, phenomenon that it is today.

    We started our Elite Dangerous journey over 6 years ago and today hundreds of thousands of Commanders log in regularly to continue their epic space journey. From a personal perspective, joining the team shortly after the kickstarter, and being a part of this incredible community has truly been one of the most amazing highlights of my career. From in-person community meet ups, online community groups and jaw-dropping events, you have always inspired us with your passion and enthusiasm.

    We wanted to take a moment to talk about a number of topics being discussed in the community and to be as open and transparent as possible. It’s a long read, so make sure you’re safely docked and comfortable before attempting to navigate this post.

    The things we’d like to go through include Chapter Four content and a little about a future beyond “Beyond”, as well as touching on the subject of “paid premium content” in 2018 for Lifetime Expansion Pass owners.

    Let’s get started with Chapter Four content. As all of you know, our largest update of the year is in final development and will be available for players to get hands-on with in just a number of weeks (Some time in Q4).This will be the final update of 2018 and the Beyond season. The Beyond season was always something that we wanted to do in order to bring even more enhancements to the core experience of Elite and being able to dedicate a full development team (over 100 people!) for a full year of free content was specifically to gear ourselves up to support our long term vision for the game.
    On a personal note, Squadrons is something I’m most excited by. Seeing our player groups grow and the stories they’ve created has been incredible and now being able to see them take that to the next level, formalize their groups in-game, TAG up and team up is something I’m really looking forward to.

    There’s also a huge group of players who are most excited by the many new additions to exploration. I know from talking to so many of you online and in-person, this is a huge moment and the development team are working really hard to deliver new content and mechanics to give explorers that thrill of venturing out into the black. And then there’s even more with additions with significant mining enhancements, a full game visual upgrade and the Codex which all bring even more richness to the game experience and depth to the way people play. It’s certainly an update we’re all very excited to see the community explore.

    We do have one exciting piece of news to share that to date, we have not shared with our community. A while ago, our development went from pre-production into full production on our next major milestone of Elite development.

    What that means in the simplest terms is that the team are actively working on the next major landmark which takes us into our next era for Elite. We aren’t going to be ready to talk about or announce any details for quite a while yet, it is early in the development and there is still a long way to go, but I can say that this is something that will be scheduled to release a considerable time after the final update in the Beyond series. We will have more details on exactly what this means and how the era will roll out after the release of Beyond – Chapter Four, but this does mark some exciting next steps and a continued commitment to the long term vision for the game and our community.

    Naturally, there will be community questions that might come up from this information. We aren’t going to be ready to talk about what method or model the content will be. What we can say is that it’s expected to be a major milestone in the history of Elite and will be paid content. Lifetime Expansion owners will obviously receive the content as part of their pass.

    As part of pre-production, the team investigate all areas of the content and scope them out thoroughly. It’s important to take the time to be clear on what the vision for this is and how we imagine the content working. During this process, we have made a decision to adjust the focus of content that were previously planned for the Chapter Four update, adding some significant new gameplay, but it also means some other aspects will have to change. This means that some elements of content such as Ice Planets (which many of you will have seen some fantastic progress updates from LaveCon earlier this year) and Fleet Carriers for squadrons will not be coming as part of the Beyond – Chapter Four update. Some of the technology from the ice planets specifically will be used within our wider and global visual upgrade, so there will still be general improvements, but not everything we originally envisaged. However, we wanted you to be aware that these two elements specifically would be reprioritised out of the upcoming Beyond - Chapter Four update. What this does mean is that the rest of the content will be able to benefit for the changes in scheduling through deeper and richer gameplay mechanics. The Chapter Four update still has the same, if not bigger scope and continues to promise the largest update of the Beyond season and a truck load of great features for all Horizons Commanders for free. We’re very excited to be sharing the details with you over the coming weeks, so stay tuned for more info.

    Another area that we’ve had a number of questions on is the “premium content” coming in 2018.

    As many of you will know, we previously mentioned that premium (paid for) content would also be coming within the Beyond season of updates and that Lifetime Expansion Pass holders would be getting this for free. However, as we went through the early stages of what the next era for Elite Dangerous would be, we decided that it would be better to spend that additional time on the future content, rather than bringing new types of purchasable content out this year.

    This is a big positive for the long term future of the game and its content. However, we also understand that there are people with Lifetime Expansion Passes who haven’t received paid for content in this season, because Beyond has been free to all owners of Horizons. We truly appreciate the support and commitment that those owners put in us when they purchased the LEP and we will be making sure that there is a form of free store content going out to them by the end of this year.

    The most important thing we would like for our community to take from this, is that there are some incredibly exciting things just over the horizon. The Elite Dangerous development team is larger than it has been at any point in the last 6 years. It is thanks to your continued support, dedication, feedback and engagement that has made this possible. We have the Beyond Chapter Four update coming soon, our largest update in the Beyond season, with some awesome headline features and a fantastically promising future of content and ongoing development. We’re looking forward to sharing more details with you in the future. However, if you have any questions feel free to share them with us by posting in this thread and we’ll try and answer as many of them as we can.

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Thanks for the update Zac. It's been long overdue and it's really good to finally be able to read it, even though it may not be what I have personally hoped for.

    There is A LOT of information to chew through, so I will leave it at that for now and probably come back with a longer comment at some point.

    o7

  3. #3
    Originally Posted by rootsrat View Post (Source)
    Thanks for the update Zac. It's been long overdue and it's really good to finally be able to read it, even though it may not be what I have personally hoped for.

    There is A LOT of information to chew through, so I will leave it at that for now and probably come back with a longer comment at some point.

    o7
    No there is not ^^
    Seriously. There is little Information at all in this Topic xD

    In General if we Summarize the usable Information.

    We got.
    Squadrons coming
    Mining Update coming.
    Additional Exploration Content coming.
    Visual Update for Planets coming.

    They Started Work on the next Season.
    And Carriers will be Delayed to next Season and wont come in this Season as was Planned before.
    There will be additional Premium Content for this Season.


    Now pls Note.
    All of this with two Exceptions is Basicly Old News.

    1.
    Its New that they have Started Working on next Season.
    Albeit this was Logical and most of us assumed so anyways.

    2.
    Carriers wont come in this Season


    The rest is basicly Old News we already knew about from other Statements

    So no this is clearly not much to Information to Chew on.
    Honestly said. Its basicly an Announcement that Carriers will be delayed lol

  4. #4
    Originally Posted by rootsrat View Post (Source)
    Thanks for the update Zac. It's been long overdue and it's really good to finally be able to read it, even though it may not be what I have personally hoped for.

    There is A LOT of information to chew through, so I will leave it at that for now and probably come back with a longer comment at some point.

    o7
    Hey, this was Earlier Than Expected (tm)!

  5. #5
    Thanks ZAc

  6. #6
    As long as the paid premium content doesn't become Pay2Win then I'm fine with it.

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    Originally Posted by Eruptor218 View Post (Source)
    As long as the paid premium content doesn't become Pay2Win then I'm fine with it.
    Content has always been done with the aim of giving good value and with a strong moral compass. You're safe here, Commander!

  8. #8
    tl:dr
    No ice planets and fleet carriers in Q4.
    Many words of excitement over some undisclosed mistical content, as per usual.

    Sweet new skins in shop tho.
    Damn Frontier, what's next, tickets for streams?

  9. #9
    Wasn't even sweating brah.
    Wondrous Elite.

  10. #10
    Originally Posted by Fenyl View Post (Source)
    tl:dr
    No ice planets and fleet carriers in Q4.
    Many words of excitement over some undisclosed mistical content, as per usual.

    Sweet new skins in shop tho.
    Damn Frontier, what's next, tickets for streams?
    Nice SC initiative ins't it ?

  11. #11
    Originally Posted by Fenyl View Post (Source)
    tl:dr
    No ice planets and fleet carriers in Q4.
    Many words of excitement over some undisclosed mistical content, as per usual.

    Sweet new skins in shop tho.
    Damn Frontier, what's next, tickets for streams?
    You forgot the grind..... more grind!

  12. #12
    Ice planet update pushed back is unfortunate, that had promise to look gorgeous. Still looking forward to the exploration updates the most.

    I never did understand what people were supposed to do with fleet carriers? Where would they go, who would they fight? Was in only meant for PVP since there are no incentives to fighting the Thargoid atm. Why even release new Guardian fighters that lack in DPS and kill themselves by overheating and don't have a real use, again, since it's pointless to fight the goids.

    Any news on turning the base gameplay loop into a pleasant experience by re-doing the GUI? Eg. stop making ship fitting the player's worst enemy and remove a few dozen unnecessary clicks and create loadouts for different "professions". Maybe add a search?
    Any news on creating an actual economy? Maybe let players sell raw materials and data too? Would be a welcome change if you could farm mats on some days and farm credits the other and buy some mats. Nothing clips your wings faster than noticing you're missing some grueling material grind from a certain recipe.

    Maybe turn CQC into a battle royale as well. It has potential for pretty quick looping combat, if it can handle more than a few players at once.
    Just make the game Free to Play and sell cosmetics? I'm fine with that. People seem to be buying them a lot and they do bring some colour into the game, if you do play with friends. Though, multiplayer isn't really incentivised either, so there's that...even player meet-ups lag like mad and kick people out. Not really thrilling gameplay.


    If you wish to be "transparent", list more bug fixes in patch notes, so people know if they can return to doing something that was previously broken or unbalanced.

    Yes, I'm super-critical, but I really do love the base game. It's just awful to do most things in the game due to repetition or just lack of depth. Can't really dedicate myself into doing anything.
    Graphics are gorgeous, audio is awesome, base flying experience is mostly fantastic, but where's QA and missions design? Where's listening to the community as a regular thing?
    Commanders plug the game to the outside like crazy and the community is super welcoming to newbies, but they really do deserve some transparency on the forums as a reward.

    Thanks for the update, much appreciated.

  13. #13
    Originally Posted by Fenyl View Post (Source)
    tl:dr
    No ice planets and fleet carriers in Q4.
    Many words of excitement over some undisclosed mistical content, as per usual.

    Sweet new skins in shop tho.
    Damn Frontier, what's next, tickets for streams?
    Honestly, i dont even care anymore. No one should. Theres pleenty of great games out there where the dev team actually releases meaningful content. And a lot more of it in a lot less time than FDEV.

  14. #14
    Originally Posted by Fenyl View Post (Source)
    tl:dr
    No ice planets and fleet carriers in Q4.
    Many words of excitement over some undisclosed mistical content, as per usual.

    Sweet new skins in shop tho.
    Damn Frontier, what's next, tickets for streams?
    !

  15. #15
    Originally Posted by Zac Antonaci View Post (Source)
    Content has always been done with the aim of giving good value and with a strong moral compass. You're safe here, Commander!
    Really? What about disadvantage in pvp for people who haven't bought Horizons? They couldn't be competitive in pvp, because they don't have access to engineers, so it was like p2w for many people. Four years after release people still have to buy base game (with almost nothing in there to be honest) and Horizons instead just Horizons.

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