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Thread: Chapter Four - Exploration Reveal

  1. #4456
    Hello,

    Very new to the game, started yesterday and I was wondering something, if I use the detailed surface scanner, will I discover the same amount of information that if I was present there in the system ? or is it totally not worth it now to fly toward a system ?

  2. #4457
    Originally Posted by Anthony- View Post (Source)
    Hello,

    Very new to the game, started yesterday and I was wondering something, if I use the detailed surface scanner, will I discover the same amount of information that if I was present there in the system ? or is it totally not worth it now to fly toward a system ?
    You might want to stick to High-Security systems until the patch:

    A. High-Security systems are typically already fully explored
    B. They might also be slightly 'safer' if you're playing in OPEN
    C. Discovery Scanners are about to become obsoleted / free
    D. The DSS will be upgraded to a 'surface mapping' mechanic
    E. The DSS engineering blueprints are also due for an update
    F. Get a Kill Warrant Scanner and help cops kill 'wanted' ships

    Try not to hit them enough to pull aggro and get yourself killed

    Edit: Why F? Because you'll need cash, lots and lots of cash!
    Find wanted ships at (not compromised) Navigation Beacons

  3. #4458
    Originally Posted by Anthony- View Post (Source)
    Hello,

    Very new to the game, started yesterday and I was wondering something, if I use the detailed surface scanner, will I discover the same amount of information that if I was present there in the system ? or is it totally not worth it now to fly toward a system ?
    Just honk if you need to but wait for update to scan the systems it'll be faster, easier and you'll enjoy it more unless you like fly-and-wait mini-game. For what you have to do... Trader, fighter, explorer, mercenary, pilot for rich passengers,... Just play the way you want ^^.

  4. #4459
    Thanks for the answer! So, I do get the same information whether I fly and go there or if I use the scanner correct?

  5. #4460
    Originally Posted by Anthony- View Post (Source)
    Thanks for the answer! So, I do get the same information whether I fly and go there or if I use the scanner correct?
    There's two different scanners for exploration.

    Discovery - Basic / Intermediate / Advanced

    Advanced gives a full overview of any system that's not already shown as explored on the galaxy map (The system map icon in the galaxy map is red, not white and you can't click it to open the system map (You could buy the data, if it's available)). Alternatively, if the system has a Navigation Beacon (near the primary star) drop into normal space and scan it to reveal all the same data the ADS would have given you.

    Again, all three of these are about to be obsoleted, and included for free in every ship with the additional functionality of the DSS below...

    Detailed Surface Scanner

    Currently, will only give you a better cash payout on any object you target and fly towards in any given system. You have to get pretty close, and it takes time, which can be reduced by engineering it for range or speed.

    The new DSS in the next patch adds a new mechanic for mapping planet surfaces and pinpointing anomalies and hands all it's current functionality over to the free discovery scanner mentioned above.

    What might be the smarter move at this point is to start accumulating cash prior to the next patch so you're in a slightly better position to buy a decent ship - Cobra MkIII highly recommended, A-Rate the FSD and vastly improve the range you can travel per jump as some of the engineers are a fair way from your start point.

    To get up to speed on what's coming, check out some of the videos on the official Frontier youtube channel, here. If you look in the Community tab you'll find links to some of the more prolific youtube content creators that offer in depth how to guides to get you up and running a little quicker than you might otherwise end up dead, a lot

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    Edit: A more direct answer: If you're not in a system, but you can already open and see all that system's data via the galaxy map, there's no point going there to try and make cash scanning it. It's already explored, so there's no point.

    If a system is not explored, but you can buy the data, it IS worth going there with a DSS and pulling level 3 scans for all the objects, which you can then sell to any Universal Cartographics facility, as long as you travel outside the 20 light year exclusion zone.

    If a system is not explored at all, the Basic Discovery Scanner has a very short range, only 500 Light Seconds, the Intermediate is 1000 LS, the Advanced is unlimited range but will also cost well over a million credits to buy (refunded when the patch drops). You might still be better off scanning the Navigation Beacon and getting the level 3 scans, or just avoiding those systems until after the patch.

  6. #4461
    Originally Posted by Six6VI View Post (Source)
    There's two different scanners for exploration.

    Discovery - Basic / Intermediate / Advanced

    Advanced gives a full overview of any system that's not already shown as explored on the galaxy map (The system map icon in the galaxy map is red, not white and you can't click it to open the system map (You could buy the data, if it's available)). Alternatively, if the system has a Navigation Beacon (near the primary star) drop into normal space and scan it to reveal all the same data the ADS would have given you.

    Again, all three of these are about to be obsoleted, and included for free in every ship with the additional functionality of the DSS below...

    Detailed Surface Scanner

    Currently, will only give you a better cash payout on any object you target and fly towards in any given system. You have to get pretty close, and it takes time, which can be reduced by engineering it for range or speed.

    The new DSS in the next patch adds a new mechanic for mapping planet surfaces and pinpointing anomalies and hands all it's current functionality over to the free discovery scanner mentioned above.

    What might be the smarter move at this point is to start accumulating cash prior to the next patch so you're in a slightly better position to buy a decent ship - Cobra MkIII highly recommended, A-Rate the FSD and vastly improve the range you can travel per jump as some of the engineers are a fair way from your start point.

    To get up to speed on what's coming, check out some of the videos on the official Frontier youtube channel, here. If you look in the Community tab you'll find links to some of the more prolific youtube content creators that offer in depth how to guides to get you up and running a little quicker than you might otherwise end up dead, a lot

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    Edit: A more direct answer: If you're not in a system, but you can already open and see all that system's data via the galaxy map, there's no point going there to try and make cash scanning it. It's already explored, so there's no point.

    If a system is not explored, but you can buy the data, it IS worth going there with a DSS and pulling level 3 scans for all the objects, which you can then sell to any Universal Cartographics facility, as long as you travel outside the 20 light year exclusion zone.

    If a system is not explored at all, the Basic Discovery Scanner has a very short range, only 500 Light Seconds, the Intermediate is 1000 LS, the Advanced is unlimited range but will also cost well over a million credits to buy (refunded when the patch drops). You might still be better off scanning the Navigation Beacon and getting the level 3 scans, or just avoiding those systems until after the patch.
    I thought every ship has the Discover Scanner as standard now (as of the next release)?

  7. #4462
    Originally Posted by NeilF View Post (Source)
    I thought every ship has the Discover Scanner as standard now (as of the next release)?
    Look a little higher up, for the original question...

    "Very new to the game, started yesterday..."

    Yep, B, I and ADS all due to be obsoleted next patch.

    [Edit: Fixed and fixed ]

  8. #4463
    Originally Posted by Six6VI View Post (Source)
    Look a little higher up, for the original question...

    "Very new to the game, started yesterday..."

    Yep, B, I and ADS all due to be obsoleted next patch.

    [Edit: Fixed and fixed ]
    OK... Just worried I'd lost the plot there for a second

  9. #4464
    Originally Posted by NeilF View Post (Source)
    OK... Just worried I'd lost the plot there for a second
    Wait, what!? Where did you find one of those?

  10. #4465
    Originally Posted by Six6VI View Post (Source)
    Wait, what!? Where did you find one of those?
    Came for free with LEP.

  11. #4466
    Originally Posted by Scrooge McDbrn47 View Post (Source)
    Came for free with LEP.
    Ok, missing that just achieved a whole new level of sucky

  12. #4467
    Originally Posted by Six6VI View Post (Source)
    There's two different scanners for exploration.

    Discovery - Basic / Intermediate / Advanced

    Advanced gives a full overview of any system that's not already shown as explored on the galaxy map (The system map icon in the galaxy map is red, not white and you can't click it to open the system map (You could buy the data, if it's available)). Alternatively, if the system has a Navigation Beacon (near the primary star) drop into normal space and scan it to reveal all the same data the ADS would have given you.

    Again, all three of these are about to be obsoleted, and included for free in every ship with the additional functionality of the DSS below...

    Detailed Surface Scanner

    Currently, will only give you a better cash payout on any object you target and fly towards in any given system. You have to get pretty close, and it takes time, which can be reduced by engineering it for range or speed.

    The new DSS in the next patch adds a new mechanic for mapping planet surfaces and pinpointing anomalies and hands all it's current functionality over to the free discovery scanner mentioned above.

    What might be the smarter move at this point is to start accumulating cash prior to the next patch so you're in a slightly better position to buy a decent ship - Cobra MkIII highly recommended, A-Rate the FSD and vastly improve the range you can travel per jump as some of the engineers are a fair way from your start point.

    To get up to speed on what's coming, check out some of the videos on the official Frontier youtube channel, here. If you look in the Community tab you'll find links to some of the more prolific youtube content creators that offer in depth how to guides to get you up and running a little quicker than you might otherwise end up dead, a lot

    ------

    Edit: A more direct answer: If you're not in a system, but you can already open and see all that system's data via the galaxy map, there's no point going there to try and make cash scanning it. It's already explored, so there's no point.

    If a system is not explored, but you can buy the data, it IS worth going there with a DSS and pulling level 3 scans for all the objects, which you can then sell to any Universal Cartographics facility, as long as you travel outside the 20 light year exclusion zone.

    If a system is not explored at all, the Basic Discovery Scanner has a very short range, only 500 Light Seconds, the Intermediate is 1000 LS, the Advanced is unlimited range but will also cost well over a million credits to buy (refunded when the patch drops). You might still be better off scanning the Navigation Beacon and getting the level 3 scans, or just avoiding those systems until after the patch.

    Thank you for the explanation.

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