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Thread: Open PVE Shadow Banned Server - Could it Work?

  1. #196
    Originally Posted by rlsg View Post (Source)
    ED Main Environment is not focused on nor should it ever be focused on PvP full-stop. PvP is enabled in it but it is not the focus of it, if you want PvP focused and balanced gameplay then there is CQC.

    IMO Too many MMOs have had their PvE balance messed up because of too much of a focus on PvP.
    Most other MMOs have designated PVP WVW areas, dueling or flags. It's also the case that many MMOs have entirely different build and gearing limits for PVP. I agree that ED dipped its toe in PVP, but truly is woefully lacking in a comprehensive PVP WVW set of mechanics. It's too bad. Could have been fun...

  2. #197
    Originally Posted by Commander Danicus View Post (Source)
    Most other MMOs have designated PVP WVW areas, dueling or flags. It's also the case that many MMOs have entirely different build and gearing limits for PVP. I agree that ED dipped its toe in PVP, but truly is woefully lacking in a comprehensive PVP WVW set of mechanics. It's too bad. Could have been fun...
    Most MMOs are not also simulators - FD is more simulator than game and as such will never (and should never) really suit those looking for competitive PvP in the main environment.

    ED does have a PvP focused area - it is called CQC as I have already pointed out in the post you responded to. That is specifically designed for competitive PvP.

    WvW IMO stands for one thing … and it is not World-versus-World but something rather less polite - been there, done that - no thank you.

  3. #198
    Originally Posted by zn˘rt View Post (Source)
    this is to what all this really boils down, yes.

    except frontier would have to openly admit their genius(tm) mode boutade idea doesn't work in providing an adequate environment for both pvp and pve. they feel they are better off maintaining the ambiguity and confusion while conflating everyone into a aficionado multiplayer design and implementation while providing none of it: neither good quality pvp, nor a safe pve environment. so frontier gets to eat the cake and have it, while the players are so utterly dumb to blame each other for no reason. welcome to elite forumz!
    The modes were an inspired piece of design, you can tailor your game as you see fit. They are fine for anyone who doesn't worry about other peoples mode choices. It only ever becomes an issue for people who want to either stop or force others choices of either doing PVP or staying away from it.

    They just get sniffy about it as they have no real input in those choices.

  4. #199
    Instead of asking for a PvE mode, wouldn't it be easier for FD to create a PvP mode? It would not have to be big, just a couple of systems, a few stations and outposts in each. No C&P rules, just their own little pocket of space where they can legally blow each other up to their heart's content. I can't understand why no one has thought of this before, the PvP crowd should be over the moon with the concept as they know they will only see Commanders who are willing and able to fight back to the death, no chasing some poor schmuck in a T7 for that cheap thrill who will probably on CL once he sees you. They can do all their non-PvP activities in the other modes, this one is just for shooting ships and waving their EPs.

    Then all FD has to do is a few minor changes to Open. Any PvP action, no matter how benign it is (including interdiction) is met with varying degrees of force depending on your location. If the incident takes place in Anarchy space then only the current C&P rules apply. Low Sec space, System authority ships will immediately drop in at the first sign of trouble, Med Sec the current ATR will immediately drop in to restore order. In High Sec systems, well they are called High Sec for a reason so the ATR is a bit more buffed, they won't just chase the offenders away, they will immediately destroy them.

  5. #200
    Waste of resources, just ban them, simple.

  6. #201
    Originally Posted by Sole Hunter View Post (Source)
    Waste of resources, just ban them, simple.
    PvP is a waste of resources, just ban them simple.

  7. #202
    Originally Posted by rlsg View Post (Source)
    PvP is a waste of resources, just ban them simple.
    PVP is legitimate gameplay, just like exploration.

    Cheating is not.

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