Pitch Roll and Acceleration for (nearly) Everyship.

[Cliffson]

{Disclaimer: These figures are intended for comparison and reference only. There is no substitute for hours in the cockpit finding out what your ship can and can't do. Clever use of FA-off and thrusters can achieve greater agility}

Thanks to the BETA I've been able to finally get round to testing the remainder of the ships, and also retesting some of the previous ones.

Taking on board comments in my previous thread I have included Acceleration statistics for Lateral thrusters now to give a picture of overall agility for each ship.

As before all testing is performed at thruster Optimal mass and and with 4 pips to engines. (Note peak performance is achieved at 50% of optimum mass with A rated thrusters see links for more information)

Results:

	Top Speed	Boost	Pitch 0 (S)	Pitch 50 (S)	Pitch 100 (S)	Roll 0 (S)	Roll 50 (S)	Roll 100 (S)	Fwd 0-100 (S)	Accel Fwd (MS-2)	Lat 0-100 (S)	Accel Lat (MS-2)	Back 0-100 (S)	Accel Back (MS-2)	0PiP speed Ratio	Yaw 50
iCutter	200	320	25.1	20.12	30.4	10.1	8.06	9	4.89	30.56	16.94	6.05	10.41	10.1	0.800
F.Corvette	200	260	16.1	12.8	18.67	6.09	4.93	5.45	6.07	20.28	10.58	10.1	10.6	10.12	0.500
CONDA	180	240	18.03	14.49	18.75	7.59	6.04	6.85	10.6	19.83	10.6	9.9	10.55	10.54	0.445
PYTHON	230	300	31.1	12.4	39.4	5.17	4.08	6.71	4.06	28.72	6.68	15.7	6	17.92	0.610
FDL	260	350	23.7	9.7	21.4	5.81	4.63	7.54	3.55	30.05	5.27	20.92	4.2	24.42	0.845	29.7
ORCA	300	380	28.87	14.5	35.2	8.35	6.6	8.21	3.8	29.1	5.12	19.55	4.46	25.03	0.665
CLIPPER	300	380	22.54	9.5	19.62	5.68	4.49	7.45	4.81	25.13	10.33	9.9	5.6	20.17	0.600
FGS	170	280	18	14.4	23.55	5.65	4.52	5.11	5.3	25	10.71	10.45	6.53	18.45	0.590
FAS	210	350	11.85	9.52	14.788	4.99	4.04	4.48	4.64	40.05	7.54	15.63	6.1	20.41	0.710
FDS	180	300	15	12	16.3	5.7	4.39	4.94	5	30.28	10.59	10	6.09	20	0.555
ASP	250	340	23.73	9.73	23.97	4.41	3.4	5.83	4.78	22.98	7.12	15.06	7.03	15.43	0.480
Vulture	210	338*	17.28	8.66	16.45	4.25	3.36	4.2	3.4	42.03	5.54	20.8	4.08	30.81	0.905
Asp Scout	220	300	15.02	9.22	14.8	4.3	3.38	5.5	3.73	34.48	5.48	22.3	5.49	20.72	0.500
Keelback	200	297*	33.32	13.4	43.27	4.6	3.54	4.08	5.63	20	7.02	15.92	7.1	15.25	0.450
Courier	280	380	23.7	9.6	22.7	5.1	4.11	6.76	3.01	59.19	4.66	24.95	4.1	31.41	0.785
DBE	260	335*	25.91	10.46	32.4	5	4.08	6.71	3.56	33.12	5.4	20.8	4.57	25.51	0.615
Cobra M4	200	300	30.06	12.12	38.03	5.06	4.03	6.68	4.34	26.88	7.03	15.48	5.57	20.5	0.5	36
DBS	280	376*	21.5	8.73	20.67	4.68	3.66	6.05	3.38	39.12	4.59	26.7	4.03	33.27	0.605
Viper Mk4	270	340	30	12.1	29.3	5.23	4.12	6.75	3.08	53.4	4.6	23.1	3.95	31.3	0.650
Cobra	280	400	22.57	9.17	27.04	4.59	3.71	6.05	3.59	33.86	5.45	20.96	4.56	26.26	0.500
VIPER	320	400	25.77	10.42	24.8	5.14	4.31	6.74	3.06	53.06	4.57	25.53	4.1	32.07	0.625
iEagle	300	398*	20	9.14	25	4.59	3.68	4.26	3.59	37.38	4.43	28.83	4.29	28.63	0.700
EAGLE	240	348*	16.07	7.42	19.72	3.9	3.21	3.602	3.23	43.89	3.9	33.03	3.95	30.33	0.750
T9	130	200	22.57	18	27.7	20.19	18.24	22.65	6.14	18.56	10.6	10.1	10.55	10.52	0.31
T7	180	300	32.7	16.5	26.85	7.59	5.98	6.9	5.69	21.5	6.82	16.4	7.26	15.29	0.33
T6	220	348*	30.26	12.21	39.2	4.76	3.75	4.08	5.52	20	6.99	15.625	7.05	15.5	0.41

Boost* figures are the highest boost achieved in practice due to speed bleeding out. Other figures are where a hard limit was clearly hit on boosting.

Pitch and Roll figures are seconds to complete 360 deg, results are averaged over several repeats. 0,50,100 refers to throttle % applied.

Acceleration figures for each direction give the 0-100 time and the peak acceleration measured as the time taken to go from 50-150 (or 100-200 on the faster ships) this is to highlight the spooling time effect of drives on different ships.

For the effects of Thruster rating and Optimal mass tuning see my previous thread:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=164931

Or this thread here for a formula and graphical approach :

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=182057
(also source for most of the 0Pip figures, NB this ratio is 100% speed only, boost is unaffected and rotation is affected differently on each ship)

Also to see the max you can get unmodded and get an idea for the weights see TrueSilver's thread:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showth...ial-FDev-Stats

Enjoy!​

[Sire]

Impressive indeed!

[goemon]

hm. with which kind of thrusters this (great!) table is referring to? class E at 50% optimal mass? there is something missing. because i can easily boost my dbs or cobra above the noted boost speed, and hold that speed by boosting repeat.

[Cliffson]

hm. with which kind of thrusters this (great!) table is referring to? class E at 50% optimal mass? there is something missing. because i can easily boost my dbs or cobra above the noted boost speed, and hold that speed by boosting repeat.

Everything is tested at optimum mass using whatever thruster/internals achieves this, since all thrusters act identically at thier optimum, mass thruster class/rating is irrelevant.

If you look at the info in the links you can then find your performance for you thruster/mass set up.

[Kyle Brennan]

Just a quick glance but they are not accurate. The cobra maxes out at 460m/s, chart says 400?

[Cliffson]

Just a quick glance but they are not accurate. The cobra maxes out at 460m/s, chart says 400?

This is not maximum figures, optimum mass is a misnomer, 50% of optimum mass is the best performance. Cobra should be roughly 400*1.16 so around 464 theoretical maximum at 50% optimum mass A grade thrusters.

I've updated OP now with this information.

[goemon]

Everything is tested at optimum mass using whatever thruster/internals achieves this, since all thrusters act identically at thier optimum, mass thruster class/rating is irrelevant.

If you look at the info in the links you can then find your performance for you thruster/mass set up.

i took a look at those links before, and assume that the boost speed you noted down is a basic number, e.g. with A4 thrusters on a cobra it's 400 m/s + 16% (sound about right), that's why i was saying: there is missing something (a clarification) in the original post :-) - anyways, thanks for this great test!

[Snarfbuckle]

Results:

	Top Speed	Boost	Pitch 0 (S)	Pitch 50 (S)	Pitch 100 (S)	Roll 0 (S)	Roll 50 (S)	Roll 100 (S)	Fwd 0-100 (S)	Accel Fwd (MS-2)	Lat 0-100 (S)	Accel Lat (MS-2)	Back 0-100 (S)	Accel Back (MS-2)
CONDA	180	240	18.03	14.49	18.75	7.59	6.04	6.85	10.6	19.83	10.6	9.9	10.55	10.54
EAGLE	240	348*	16.07	7.42	19.72	3.9	3.21	3.602	3.23	43.89	3.9	33.03	3.95	30.33

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Is it just me or is the CONDA incredible agilee in the pitch department?

For a ship with a maneuverability score of 2 it seems rather nimble

[-SOVEREIGN-]

Keeping the blue zone is even more important in a Python than I thought. Thanks for the work and sharing with us!

by the way: what does "Accel Fwd (MS-2)" mean?

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Is it just me or is the CONDA incredible agilee in the pitch department?

For a ship with a maneuverability score of 2 it seems rather nimble

No, that just means that if you don't keep the blue zone with your Eagle, you will turn like Conda (which surprisingly suffers far less than most ships from bad speed-management, the Federal ships also very forgiving). The "Pitch 50" is the most important of those though.

[zimms]

Exactely, in the blue zone the Eagle pitches about twice as fast.

[Sayne]

So at zero throttle and full throttle an Anaconda turns faster than all the Cobra tier ships, Asp tier ships except the Vulture (then only a little slower), and turns MUCH faster than Python or FDL.

Suffice to say that is completely ridiculous for something as huge as that, and explains why fighting an Elite one is so hard when they boost away and flip around on a dime -- because they literally turn faster than a fighter with a tiny fraction of its mass at full or zero throttle.

I've gotta ask if that is a bug or if it's working as intended.

Because, again, that's ridiculous.

Edit-- also massive, long and heavy Imperial Clippers turn better than Vipers in the blue zone. Come on, really?

[M. Grey]

Thanks, great work!

[Janichsan]

That's some comprehensive data. Good job!

[Ian Skippy]

Thanks, great job!

[Mad Leo]

Good work. Confirms that Courier has the best acceleration as I subjectively thought.

MS-2 is "metres per second per second" or ms^-2​ I guess.