1.1 collision damage

[micky1up]

Yep I've noticed it's scaled up a lot, but that clipper didn't seem to hit anything at the video? Didn't look even scratching his wings to anything?

the point is the mechanic has changed and your not adjusting to it maybe its out of whack but your putting yourself in that situation

 

[Zanten]

im not the one trying to compare real space flight with a computer game the simple thing is if you fly safe and correctly you will be fine

Have to ask, do you fly in, say, a Cobra?

Because given how small those things are, it's really, really easy to 'fly safe' in a Cobra, and not hit anything while docking. On the other hand, when your ship's height is juuuuuuuust barely smaller than the width of the entire docking slot, it becomes significantly less cut-and-dry. =P Chances are most of us can dock a Cobra with no issue of impact because it isn't remotely difficult.

But to bring the collision issue into more context, let's say you're out driving in a car, park in a parking lot and, when opening your car door, accidentally 'ding' the truck beside you.

And then the truck explodes.

That's kind of the issue here. =P Impacts that are very, very tiny, and aren't even collisions so much as light kisses, are making ships blow up.

 

[micky1up]

Umm...that wasn't my video, or the situation I described...
Perhaps if you would step out of troll mode and pay attention...oh wait...nevermind...this can't happen to you so you don't care. What is it you are flying again?

i think u need to lookup the word troll

im flying a t7 a python and a cobra all A kitted

 

[Rhywden]

@Rhywden: Yep I've noticed it's scaled up a lot, but that clipper didn't seem to hit anything at the video? Didn't look even scratching his wings to anything?

Well, my take on that is that the damage is instantly calculated to be catastrophic so the ship simply blows up instead of updating the UI to indicate damage.

 

[Ratas]

@micky1up: Did you mean to quote me or someone else? I have had no problems adjusting to it so far. I just described most enjoying wreckfest I've had in a while.
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Not really sure that was collision bug on that video, but could have been, I guess. My experience indicates that shields seem ro eat away ship hulls now, at least something like that happened to one of the shieldless cobras I was next to, without really having any speed difference after the initial crash.

 

[Varrag]

I distinctly remember you being the guy who thinks that because NASA had to built their crafts very light, that this would also be the case in the year 3300.

But ships in ED are being "built" from some very light material: take Lakon-9 for example: dimensions 120x100 meters, weight 1000 tons. Modern Arleigh Burke class destroyer: dimensions 155x20 meters, weight 10.000 tons.

edit: I am not trying to defend FDEV, I am too far away from other ships to test new collision damage model, but from what I hear it's ridiculous.

 

[micky1up]

Have to ask, do you fly in, say, a Cobra?

Because given how small those things are, it's really, really easy to 'fly safe' in a Cobra, and not hit anything while docking. On the other hand, when your ship's height is juuuuuuuust barely smaller than the width of the entire docking slot, it becomes significantly less cut-and-dry. =P Chances are most of us can dock a Cobra with no issue of impact because it isn't remotely difficult.

But to bring the collision issue into more context, let's say you're out driving in a car, park in a parking lot and, when opening your car door, accidentally 'ding' the truck beside you.



And then the truck explodes.


That's kind of the issue here. =P Impacts that are very, very tiny, and aren't even collisions so much as light kisses, are making ships blow up.

and again because you could do it pre 1.1 you think its valid now ? it isnt its still poor flying 1min wait here or there free letter box no colisions at all

 

[P00T]

i think u need to lookup the word troll

im flying a t7 a python and a cobra all A kitted

Except you aren't, are you? You're in here telling people they can't fly, while you sit at dock waiting for the fix. (hop on twitch and let's all have a look at the skills!)
Seriously, what is the point to your existence/participation? If it hasn't happened to you (yet) what perspective do you actually have to contribute?

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[CMDR Brock Samson]

The exact same thing in the OP happened to me.Couldn't believe it, the Orca just went BOOM!

 

[ak785]

Can i say that implementing this collision system before the AI improvements to collision avoidance is a huge mistake and going to be a source of much frustration for players.

 

[micky1up]

Except you aren't, are you? You're in here telling people they can't fly, while you sit at dock waiting for the fix. (hop on twitch and let's all have a look at the skills!)
Seriously, what is the point to your existence/participation? If it hasn't happened to you (yet) what perspective do you actually have to contribute?

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two thing im a kickstarter and ive played this beta for a week now and ive played 3-4 hours tonight next ?

 

[Zanten]

and again because you could do it pre 1.1 you think its valid now ? it isnt its still poor flying 1min wait here or there free letter box no colisions at all

Well, no, because one of the folks involved with communication between the fanbase and the game SAID this was an issue with collision detection, and therefore not a designed part of the game. Keep up, buddy, keep up. =D

 

[Logios]

the point is the mechanic has changed and your not adjusting to it maybe its out of whack but your putting yourself in that situation

and again because you could do it pre 1.1 you think its valid now ? it isnt its still poor flying 1min wait here or there free letter box no colisions at all

This is a level of corporate white knightery I've never witnessed before. You're actually suggesting that this near game breaking bug is the PLAYER'S fault. Not that I expect a lot of intelligence coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

 

[micky1up]

Can i say that implementing this collision system before the AI improvements to collision avoidance is a huge mistake and going to be a source of much frustration for players.

yes frustraition for players rushing about not giving a hoot about who or what they bump into lol wel not for long cause soon they wont have any cash left to fly with all the scrapes and bumps

 

[CMDR Holycow]

This is amazingly broken, I just attempted to pirate an anaconda, tapped him with my wing while i rotated at 20m/s, i lost 2.5 rings, he lost 100% shields and 30% hull.

If you were that conda I apologise I had no idea it would immensely damage your ship from a tap that previously wouldn't have even damaged one ring.

I've been looking for you You're very well known in the game

 

[P00T]

two thing im a kickstarter and ive played this beta for a week now and ive played 3-4 hours tonight next ?

Oh, I see. My apologies then. I had mistakenly pegged you for a total moron. It seems that you are indeed what is next.

 

[micky1up]

This is a level of corporate white knightery I've never witnessed before. You're actually suggesting that this near game breaking bug is the PLAYER'S fault. Not that I expect a lot of intelligence coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're".

no is not the player fault the bug exists it is the player faults that they still rush about scraping and bumping even though they know about the bug

and you can tell when you win the arguement the poster starts on grammer i dont have time for it on a forum

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Oh, I see. My apologies then. I had mistakenly pegged you for a total moron. It seems that you are indeed what is next.

its better than a poster who post about something he knows nothing about ? and im not the one crying over millions of cedits lost in colisions when they really are easy to avoid

 

[Zanten]

no is not the player fault the bug exists it is the player faults that they still rush about scraping and bumping even though they know about the bug

and you can tell when you win the arguement the poster starts on grammer i dont have time for it on a forum

...so, if the player doesn't come to the forum, or didn't come to the forum in time to see the warning before playing the game, then how would they know about the bug?

 

[Nauht]

no is not the player fault the bug exists it is the player faults that they still rush about scraping and bumping even though they know about the bug

and you can tell when you win the arguement the poster starts on grammer i dont have time for it on a forum

Yet you have time to post on the forum.. frequently.

How can you win an argument when you're not worth listening to?

 

[Rhywden]

no is not the player fault the bug exists it is the player faults that they still rush about scraping and bumping even though they know about the bug

and you can tell when you win the arguement the poster starts on grammer i dont have time for it on a forum

Yes, because typing an apostrophe takes so much time!