Patch Notes Update 2.1.04 update incoming

Check your trigger mappings in the right menu while in the srv, sometimes they are screwed up (guns on 2, scanner not mapped).
I have gone over all the settings, to scan a data terminal on my x-52 pro, i am using the C button on the joystick side, because i am using lift thrusters on the pinky trigger.

this arrangement has been working fine for months prior to the 2.1.04 update
 
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I have gone over all the settings, to scan a data terminal on my x-52 pro, i am using the C button on the joystick side, because i am using lift thrusters on the pinky trigger.

this arrangement has been working fine for months prior to the 2.1.04 update

Try scanning while in turret mode. Not sure when this was introduced, but last time when I had trouble getting the scanner to work, it did in turret mode.
 
I have gone over all the settings, to scan a data terminal on my x-52 pro, i am using the C button on the joystick side, because i am using lift thrusters on the pinky trigger.

this arrangement has been working fine for months prior to the 2.1.04 update


Not the controller settings, I was describing the in-vehicle right-hand menu for selecting fire groups.
 
Any update on 2.1.05?

I think they finally worked out the AI bug that was causing the AI to fail to kill every player it encounters in 3 shots...should be fixed in .05

Also, some people have been complaining that the Vive display is WAY too sharp. In fact it's so good that some players refuse to go back to reality because the resolution isn't as good so they're going to tone that down a bit.

...on yeah, and no more unlimited ammo for players. NPC's, however...still unlimited.
 
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I think they finally worked out the AI bug that was causing the AI to fail to kill every player it encounters in 3 shots...should be fixed in .05

Also, some people have been complaining that the Vive display is WAY too sharp. In fact it's so good that some players refuse to go back to reality because the resolution isn't as good so they're going to tone that down a bit.

...on yeah, and no more unlimited ammo for players. NPC's, however...still unlimited.

Do I detect a hint of sarcasm
 
I think they finally worked out the AI bug that was causing the AI to fail to kill every player it encounters in 3 shots...should be fixed in .05

Also, some people have been complaining that the Vive display is WAY too sharp. In fact it's so good that some players refuse to go back to reality because the resolution isn't as good so they're going to tone that down a bit.

...on yeah, and no more unlimited ammo for players. NPC's, however...still unlimited.
lol! +1 for making me laugh sir! ;)
 
I think they finally worked out the AI bug that was causing the AI to fail to kill every player it encounters in 3 shots...should be fixed in .05 Also said:
Does this mean Frontier accept it was / is a bug and we will be compensated for our losses plus interest at the government rate of 8% (LOL) Mine is insurance for 6 ASps a load of palladium and other stuff which will be on my records. Look forward to it.
 
Impact on game: HeartBroken!
Version Found: 2.1.04
Frequency: All the time!
Time and date of issue: since v1.1
Commander name: Dr Indiana Jones
VR: none
Location: anywhere
Ship: Python
Description: You made me hate a game i adored since my childhood.
Steps to reproduce: Just play the damn game!
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First of all let me say, I do not wish to start a discussion or wish for anyone to try to "change" my mind. I am too old for this     !

I had big issues with the first version of ED mainly because any Anaconda that "bumped", on my ASP Explorer at the time, I just got killed instantly.
Still, I would change all crappy later releases, v1.4, 2.0, 2.1 with v1.1 anytime! "Community Goals" was a must for us bounty hunters to cover for our losses easily in a weekend!

You managed to take a game I love since my childhood, that in v1.1 was a decent game that needed fine-tuning and market enhancements, and made this crap you got now!
As a developer myself, I am sure that this took some effort to accomplish!

1) v1.2 maybe WINGS is a nice feature, still other issues had to be addressed at that time (market, missions and exploration improvements). In my opinion you made a bad decision about WINGS, something else was needed in order to attract multiplayer gamers.

2) v1.3 Powerplay. Really? Do I need to even explain myself as how crappy this idea and implementation was? You already had Federation/Empire/Alliance why do we need powerplay and a load of crap guys we have to pledge with to find ourselves doing stupid and dangerous missions in order for them to "like" us an to be able to get better...     ! I am tired to even think that way! powerplay just limits our options in the game, it does not expands them, it's way too complicated and all missions have high risky / low profit!

3) v1.4 CQC. WHO THE      CARES ABOUT THIS     ?

4) v2.0 Planetary Landings. This was needed, but past the planetary approach which is nice, the SRV and related run-around-and-hope-for-the-best missions is for the mentally insane! Get a gun and shoot rocks to get materials!
No offense guys, but what a load of crap is this! Who is the love of God had this idea? Did you open a public discussion and "we" the "paying" users agreed to make that crap??? My 9 year old son would come up with a much better idea instead!

5) v2.1 The Engineers. My God somebody kill me now!!! This was even worse! So we have to find a guy somewhere in space and find materials for him from we-do-not-know-where, to make total crappy upgrades until we get 5level, then find again more materials and pray in God we get lucky enough to get maybe 10-15% to our shields, engines, fsd, guns? WHO THE      CARES? Do you really think anyone above 16years old will play the game for 2-3 months wondering the galaxy like a looser to track down materials to get a minor upgrade and then REPEAT that for the other engineers? What in the name of God are you smoking in Frontier? Please let me know!

On top of all that you made bounty hunting IMPOSSIBLE!
I get killed all the time by crappy npc ships, Asp Scout, DiamondBacks, etc that carry (obviously) 10-times my armor, 10-times my shields, turn like a hawk and have SUPER rail guns and SUPER torpedoes that killed my Python many times in about 15 sec after shields down (shields 6 + 4 shield boosters can hold on for about 30 sec when NPCs start shooting).
You make me get crappy 200-300k missions that have at least a 50% chance to destroy my 8.5M insurance ship! THIS IS THEFT!
And then I have to do trading missions for 1-2 days to cover for the losses!
Getting killed of course, I loose kill cash, explorer cash, etc.


I am very sorry if I offended you, I am just angry of your stupidity and lack of vision and just trying to "wake you up" rather to insult you.

I am giving up for now, this game has just nothing more to offer me but a waste of my time and I am heartbroken by that...
I feel sorry that this game has only to offer frustration, random material chasing for useless updates, and huge fear of dying for some small time mission by some small time "superman NPC"...
I hope you turn Elite around and make it the game it deserves to be (version 2.1 and you still have not made a decent trading goods system which was the heart of the old Elite).
Still, as a developer myself, I know this is nearly impossible when you already spend so much time and money in useless features...

I wish you luck!

PS.
See "Battlestar Galactica Online" for ideas of how some things should have been done...
 
Impact on game: HeartBroken!
Version Found: 2.1.04
Frequency: All the time!
Time and date of issue: since v1.1
Commander name: Dr Indiana Jones
VR: none
Location: anywhere
Ship: Python
Description: You made me hate a game i adored since my childhood.
Steps to reproduce: Just play the damn game!
-----------------------------------------------

First of all let me say, I do not wish to start a discussion or wish for anyone to try to "change" my mind. I am too old for this     !

I had big issues with the first version of ED mainly because any Anaconda that "bumped", on my ASP Explorer at the time, I just got killed instantly.
Still, I would change all crappy later releases, v1.4, 2.0, 2.1 with v1.1 anytime! "Community Goals" was a must for us bounty hunters to cover for our losses easily in a weekend!

You managed to take a game I love since my childhood, that in v1.1 was a decent game that needed fine-tuning and market enhancements, and made this crap you got now!
As a developer myself, I am sure that this took some effort to accomplish!

1) v1.2 maybe WINGS is a nice feature, still other issues had to be addressed at that time (market, missions and exploration improvements). In my opinion you made a bad decision about WINGS, something else was needed in order to attract multiplayer gamers.

2) v1.3 Powerplay. Really? Do I need to even explain myself as how crappy this idea and implementation was? You already had Federation/Empire/Alliance why do we need powerplay and a load of crap guys we have to pledge with to find ourselves doing stupid and dangerous missions in order for them to "like" us an to be able to get better...     ! I am tired to even think that way! powerplay just limits our options in the game, it does not expands them, it's way too complicated and all missions have high risky / low profit!

3) v1.4 CQC. WHO THE      CARES ABOUT THIS     ?

4) v2.0 Planetary Landings. This was needed, but past the planetary approach which is nice, the SRV and related run-around-and-hope-for-the-best missions is for the mentally insane! Get a gun and shoot rocks to get materials!
No offense guys, but what a load of crap is this! Who is the love of God had this idea? Did you open a public discussion and "we" the "paying" users agreed to make that crap??? My 9 year old son would come up with a much better idea instead!

5) v2.1 The Engineers. My God somebody kill me now!!! This was even worse! So we have to find a guy somewhere in space and find materials for him from we-do-not-know-where, to make total crappy upgrades until we get 5level, then find again more materials and pray in God we get lucky enough to get maybe 10-15% to our shields, engines, fsd, guns? WHO THE      CARES? Do you really think anyone above 16years old will play the game for 2-3 months wondering the galaxy like a looser to track down materials to get a minor upgrade and then REPEAT that for the other engineers? What in the name of God are you smoking in Frontier? Please let me know!

On top of all that you made bounty hunting IMPOSSIBLE!
I get killed all the time by crappy npc ships, Asp Scout, DiamondBacks, etc that carry (obviously) 10-times my armor, 10-times my shields, turn like a hawk and have SUPER rail guns and SUPER torpedoes that killed my Python many times in about 15 sec after shields down (shields 6 + 4 shield boosters can hold on for about 30 sec when NPCs start shooting).
You make me get crappy 200-300k missions that have at least a 50% chance to destroy my 8.5M insurance ship! THIS IS THEFT!
And then I have to do trading missions for 1-2 days to cover for the losses!
Getting killed of course, I loose kill cash, explorer cash, etc.


I am very sorry if I offended you, I am just angry of your stupidity and lack of vision and just trying to "wake you up" rather to insult you.

I am giving up for now, this game has just nothing more to offer me but a waste of my time and I am heartbroken by that...
I feel sorry that this game has only to offer frustration, random material chasing for useless updates, and huge fear of dying for some small time mission by some small time "superman NPC"...
I hope you turn Elite around and make it the game it deserves to be (version 2.1 and you still have not made a decent trading goods system which was the heart of the old Elite).
Still, as a developer myself, I know this is nearly impossible when you already spend so much time and money in useless features...

I wish you luck!

PS.
See "Battlestar Galactica Online" for ideas of how some things should have been done...

I agree 100%, +Rep for you.

I have posted along the same lines in different threads, but as always I am sure that Frontier will totally ignore posts by anyone that does not think each and everything they do is just awesome and perfect. They have been listening to their own for so long that they believe all of their own now!
 
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Impact on game: HeartBroken!
Version Found: 2.1.04
Frequency: All the time!
Time and date of issue: since v1.1
Commander name: Dr Indiana Jones
VR: none
Location: anywhere
Ship: Python
Description: You made me hate a game i adored since my childhood.
Steps to reproduce: Just play the damn game!
-----------------------------------------------

First of all let me say, I do not wish to start a discussion or wish for anyone to try to "change" my mind. I am too old for this     !

I had big issues with the first version of ED mainly because any Anaconda that "bumped", on my ASP Explorer at the time, I just got killed instantly.
Still, I would change all crappy later releases, v1.4, 2.0, 2.1 with v1.1 anytime! "Community Goals" was a must for us bounty hunters to cover for our losses easily in a weekend!

You managed to take a game I love since my childhood, that in v1.1 was a decent game that needed fine-tuning and market enhancements, and made this crap you got now!
As a developer myself, I am sure that this took some effort to accomplish!

1) v1.2 maybe WINGS is a nice feature, still other issues had to be addressed at that time (market, missions and exploration improvements). In my opinion you made a bad decision about WINGS, something else was needed in order to attract multiplayer gamers.

2) v1.3 Powerplay. Really? Do I need to even explain myself as how crappy this idea and implementation was? You already had Federation/Empire/Alliance why do we need powerplay and a load of crap guys we have to pledge with to find ourselves doing stupid and dangerous missions in order for them to "like" us an to be able to get better...     ! I am tired to even think that way! powerplay just limits our options in the game, it does not expands them, it's way too complicated and all missions have high risky / low profit!

3) v1.4 CQC. WHO THE      CARES ABOUT THIS     ?

4) v2.0 Planetary Landings. This was needed, but past the planetary approach which is nice, the SRV and related run-around-and-hope-for-the-best missions is for the mentally insane! Get a gun and shoot rocks to get materials!
No offense guys, but what a load of crap is this! Who is the love of God had this idea? Did you open a public discussion and "we" the "paying" users agreed to make that crap??? My 9 year old son would come up with a much better idea instead!

5) v2.1 The Engineers. My God somebody kill me now!!! This was even worse! So we have to find a guy somewhere in space and find materials for him from we-do-not-know-where, to make total crappy upgrades until we get 5level, then find again more materials and pray in God we get lucky enough to get maybe 10-15% to our shields, engines, fsd, guns? WHO THE      CARES? Do you really think anyone above 16years old will play the game for 2-3 months wondering the galaxy like a looser to track down materials to get a minor upgrade and then REPEAT that for the other engineers? What in the name of God are you smoking in Frontier? Please let me know!

On top of all that you made bounty hunting IMPOSSIBLE!
I get killed all the time by crappy npc ships, Asp Scout, DiamondBacks, etc that carry (obviously) 10-times my armor, 10-times my shields, turn like a hawk and have SUPER rail guns and SUPER torpedoes that killed my Python many times in about 15 sec after shields down (shields 6 + 4 shield boosters can hold on for about 30 sec when NPCs start shooting).
You make me get crappy 200-300k missions that have at least a 50% chance to destroy my 8.5M insurance ship! THIS IS THEFT!
And then I have to do trading missions for 1-2 days to cover for the losses!
Getting killed of course, I loose kill cash, explorer cash, etc.


I am very sorry if I offended you, I am just angry of your stupidity and lack of vision and just trying to "wake you up" rather to insult you.

I am giving up for now, this game has just nothing more to offer me but a waste of my time and I am heartbroken by that...
I feel sorry that this game has only to offer frustration, random material chasing for useless updates, and huge fear of dying for some small time mission by some small time "superman NPC"...
I hope you turn Elite around and make it the game it deserves to be (version 2.1 and you still have not made a decent trading goods system which was the heart of the old Elite).
Still, as a developer myself, I know this is nearly impossible when you already spend so much time and money in useless features...

I wish you luck!

PS.
See "Battlestar Galactica Online" for ideas of how some things should have been done...

+1 rep

I have decided to vote with my feet and feel sad to advise you that this is the only hope we as players have of changing things.

I used to play 5+ hours every day, I have played nothing for weeks now, I just can't face it.

I will not be buying any more "seasons" or paint jobs or bobble heads or merchandise.

I will tell anyone who will listen not to buy this game at the moment, it is broken and grindy.

And I will keep coming back to the forums in the hope that things improve, then I will come back and start spending again and only then.

This saddens me immensely and my Dad and I just have to suffice with Skype for now.

I know that FD will in all probability not ever see this post, but if the by some miracle do, then I will just add this;

Grinding is not gameplay, godlike NPCs are not a subsitute for difficult gameplay, hundred of unconnected, no permanent missions are not complexity, having professions that require me to do all the imagination are not fun.

This is a game godammit FD, a game, not a sim, not a replacement for my job, it is a game, let's start playing, please.
 
+1 rep

I have decided to vote with my feet and feel sad to advise you that this is the only hope we as players have of changing things.

I used to play 5+ hours every day, I have played nothing for weeks now, I just can't face it.

I will not be buying any more "seasons" or paint jobs or bobble heads or merchandise.

I will tell anyone who will listen not to buy this game at the moment, it is broken and grindy.

And I will keep coming back to the forums in the hope that things improve, then I will come back and start spending again and only then.

This saddens me immensely and my Dad and I just have to suffice with Skype for now.

I know that FD will in all probability not ever see this post, but if the by some miracle do, then I will just add this;

Grinding is not gameplay, godlike NPCs are not a subsitute for difficult gameplay, hundred of unconnected, no permanent missions are not complexity, having professions that require me to do all the imagination are not fun.

This is a game godammit FD, a game, not a sim, not a replacement for my job, it is a game, let's start playing, please.

Why give us your life story, no-one want to hear it.

If you have decided to go, then go, I am sure there wont be too many teas
 
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