2.3 Beta Release News (27th Feb)

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could understand complaining about a delay on a full release date (if you had pre ordered/ordered horizons) but to complain over a delayed (estimated) beta access date ? really ?
It's just their target of the day. It's better if you ignore it and stay positive. Most people here are positive and supportive of Frontier, but as always there are some who are entitled children who can never understand why a dev has to push something back. The funny part is people would complain if they released it and they encountered the bug frontier is trying to hard to fix. Damned if you do Damned if you don't.
 
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Can anybody tell me how I can be eligible for the free 2.3 update please?

That is I would like to play 2.3 without spending any money.

Thanks in advance.
It's a precision of language thing. Version 2.3 is not free. It simply doesn't cost anything extra if you've already purchased Horizons.
 
For everybody demanding the patch notes, I should inform you that they have already been published. They are all here - in the Library of Babel

The had part, of course, is finding them.

There's something about Thargoids slap bang in the middle of page 359 right here. (also something about eliminating bony sneezewords - must be something to do with ship naming)

Have fun! :D
 
Not what I was saying at all.... My first para was not aimed at the devs, and all the stuff that was was about comms, to clarify I'll bullet point

I have no doubts about their CODING expertise and experience.

I have doubts about some of the QA stuff (I think they need more staff but I also think there is a problem with the Beta model and poor quality feedback from players)

I have doubts about some of the project management (IMO there seems to be internal stuff pulling the game in different directions)

I am not impressed AT ALL with their comms.

If that's not clear please feel free to highlight what you think isn't fair and I'm more than happy to bore everyones pants off with more detail!
What do you think is more of an issue when it comes to QA, Frontier's lack of staff or poor feedback from the beta test community?
 
And the poor blighters are using SVN if I recall correctly. I've heard it's common in game dev, cos it was always good at dealing with large binary art assets. Wonder if they've made the move to LFS yet? Probably anything that's been used for a decade on the Cobra engine is fairly well embedded into tools and workflows though.
Oh gawd really? SVN.

Well if they ever decide to switch to git - something I would highly recommend, Eric S. Raymond recently wrote a utility which I believe is designed to specifically migrate a project out of SVN and into a git repo.

Ah yes here we go : https://gitlab.com/esr/reposurgeon

His blog entries on the subject were interesting reads, and I believe he recently extricated EMACS from svn to git whilst keeping all the commit history - no small feat, that.
 
Why is everyone so desperate to be the first person to play the beta?
In a few months I guarantee you will all have moved on to asking about 2.4
I dont think its about being the first, its about seeing it as fast as possible. Consider it an indication people are rather impressed with what they;ve seen of 2.3 so far, and cant wait to try it!
 
Why is everyone so desperate to be the first person to play the beta?
In a few months I guarantee you will all have moved on to asking about 2.4
Exactly, it's not that we have to be the first to play, we just want to play it so much because we love Elite and we want to play more of it.
 
If everyone in the world put as much effort into being constructive and inventive as they do complaining we would already have Frame Shift Drives in real life. :p
 
Considering the lateness of the delay to the Beta, the blocker is obviously one that cropped up late. It happens. People should stop going O.T.T about "FD being X, Y and Z". Yea 2.3 Beta didn't go out on the date's they expected, it happens. I suggest some people simply get over themselves. Like a cake it'll be ready when it's ready.
 
Really? Accountable? This is not some kind of legal case. It's a game. A free update for a game no less. Chill.
I was under the impression I paid for beta access, the original game AND beta access and the expansion.

That's not exactly free now is it.

I see no justification in name-calling or attacking the devs, but there IS room for a sensible amount of questioning and criticism.
 
I dont think its about being the first, its about seeing it as fast as possible. Consider it an indication people are rather impressed with what they;ve seen of 2.3 so far, and cant wait to try it!
I personally want to play badly and as soon as possible with that new cam mode, and yeah i'm not sure it's about being "the first" it's just people hyped by some great features.
 
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Because some kids would wait up (try to stay awake?) for Father Christmas to arrive ... it's built into the psyche :p

But not everyone ;)
Pontificating and insinuating someone is a kid/child, is in itself childish.

I don't get the whole, you're a kid "insult"... its pointless, I love being called a kid, kids are full of joy and wonder :) ... its the old farts calling people kids that need to lighten up :p

Who wants to join me on the roundabout, its gonna be awesum! :) :p :D Wheee!
 
I was under the impression I paid for beta access, the original game AND beta access and the expansion.

That's not exactly free now is it.

I see no justification in name-calling or attacking the devs, but there IS room for a sensible amount of questioning and criticism.
Last time I checked, the developers at frontier developments don't owe us an explanation of anything. They are responsible for giving us 2.3, doesn't even have to be in a good state, but they care about getting it right.

Criticism is all fine and dandy, but people for the most part are just whining with no constructive feedback. Doesn't help anyone.
 
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I was under the impression I paid for beta access, the original game AND beta access and the expansion.

That's not exactly free now is it.

I see no justification in name-calling or attacking the devs, but there IS room for a sensible amount of questioning and criticism.
Perhaps I should have elaborated more there, I meant 'free' based on you already owning 2.x.
I wasn't expecting to have my words picked apart so thoroughly :p

And of course, I welcome an honest discourse; I just finding this entitled behaviour tiresome.
 
It's a precision of language thing. Version 2.3 is not free. It simply doesn't cost anything extra if you've already purchased Horizons.
When I bought Horizons, I knew there would be 4 updates, that's why I bought it and that's what I was being sold. I didn't buy just 2.0 and then get told "by the way there's more".

These are all paid updates, regardless if I don't have to pay again.

BTW I purchased the higher priced loyalty package as a pre-order and I feel I have been receiving a reasonable amount of content for what I paid, so this isn't a complaint. Just don't make out thse updates are "free", additional or a bonus of any kind, because they aren't.
 
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