2.3 Beta Release News (27th Feb)

Rob At Work · Feb 28, 2017

Giddien said:
Could we please stop moaning over people moaning I have moaned and are now done moaning... Only 3 more days until weekend!!!

I sense the stamina is light in this one...

Agrar Therenus · Feb 28, 2017

Shar said:
Frontier are legally allowed to release the software at the time of there choosing, get off ya high horse Mr accountable.

Yes, they are, legally.

There's more to the argument than cold legality however. You are frustrating in that you inhabit the extreme other side in overly defending the company.

Accountability is not a black and white thing, there are different levels of it. It IS silly to suggest they are culpable of some kind of gross injustice; but they do have some level of accountability in not being able to fulfil release schedules. Remember how seasons were supposed to last for one year?

Though it's more not legality, but accepting the fine print.

This is a business, they are not a charity, we are paying customers.

Quantis Trap · Feb 28, 2017

Derage said:
Successful being a keyword there, I recall a certain other game..

I assume your referring to NMS. It's good too but, as you say, not yet as successful.

Shar · Feb 28, 2017

Agrar Therenus said:
Yes, they are, legally.

There's more to the argument than cold legality however. You are frustrating in that you inhabit the extreme other side in overly defending the company.

Accountability is not a black and white thing, there are different levels of it. It IS silly to suggest they are culpable of some kind of gross injustice; but they do have some level of accountability in not being able to fulfil release schedules. Remember how seasons were supposed to last for one year?

Though it's more not legality, but accepting the fine print.

This is a business, they are not a charity, we are paying customers.

And it's a bata test, excuse me i'm having trouble keeping a straight face.

wrmiller · Feb 28, 2017

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Derage · Feb 28, 2017

CMDR QUANTIS TRAP said:
I assume your referring to NMS. It's good too but, as you say, not yet as successful.

I definitely disagree on it being good, but the main issue I have with that game is that their devs literally lied to people about features and kept quiet on the matter and changes to what was and wasn't going to be in the game.

GarlicFresh · Feb 28, 2017

Booooooooooooo

CMDR Kilgara · Feb 28, 2017

Shar said:
And it's a bata test, excuse me i'm having troble keeping a straight face.

Yes it is a bata.

Quantis Trap · Feb 28, 2017

Agrar Therenus said:
Yes, they are, legally.

There's more to the argument than cold legality however. You are frustrating in that you inhabit the extreme other side in overly defending the company.

Accountability is not a black and white thing, there are different levels of it. It IS silly to suggest they are culpable of some kind of gross injustice; but they do have some level of accountability in not being able to fulfil release schedules. Remember how seasons were supposed to last for one year?

Though it's more not legality, but accepting the fine print.

This is a business, they are not a charity, we are paying customers.

You were accountable for making this response understandable and look what happened.

althalus609 · Feb 28, 2017

Long time listener first time caller here
Just like to say it's getting a bit childish in here , so what it's late, in the end its a BETA not a finished product and should be treated as such, no doubt it will get tweaked and updated over time but that's the purpose of a BETA so just try and show some patience.

smiths121 · Feb 28, 2017

Well I am going to the pub at 18:00. I hate Tuesday releases - they clash with my drinking time!

Simon

Quantis Trap · Feb 28, 2017

GarlicFresh said:
Booooooooooooo

Hoooooooooooo

Derage · Feb 28, 2017

Agrar Therenus said:
Yes, they are, legally.

There's more to the argument than cold legality however. You are frustrating in that you inhabit the extreme other side in overly defending the company.

Accountability is not a black and white thing, there are different levels of it. It IS silly to suggest they are culpable of some kind of gross injustice; but they do have some level of accountability in not being able to fulfil release schedules. Remember how seasons were supposed to last for one year?

Though it's more not legality, but accepting the fine print.

This is a business, they are not a charity, we are paying customers.

Did you pay for the beta already? If not they basically owe you nothing right now.

Also, do you have a source on where they said Seasons would be yearly? Some people mentioned this before but I never seen it officially somewhere.

CMDR Kilgara · Feb 28, 2017

althalus609 said:
Long time listener first time caller here
Just like to say it's getting a bit childish in here , so what it's late, in the end its a BETA not a finished product and should be treated as such, no doubt it will get tweaked and updated over time but that's the purpose of a BETA so just try and show some patience.

We are not mad that it's late. We're mad because FD try's to makes promises they can't keep. "Friday" -- "Monday" then what? Next year?

True2Drew · Feb 28, 2017

Edward Lewis said:
I think this is a little unfair. We post this information with a heavy heart. We are working very hard to get things ready for the beta test period. I understand you may be disappointed... but I'm always going to keep you updated with information when it's available.

No Ed, its not unfair, FD is being held to the standard of a professional, seasoned, experienced company yet continues to make the rookie mistakes of youth. There is stretching and then there is over stretching.

You guys have the smoothest space flight mechanics out there IMO, but you really need to push the momentum guys, what are you gonna do when the competition steps up? Will all the haters out there that didn't allow you to employ proper, functional fund raising mechanisms, so you can hire more staff to compensate for all the stretching, will they be enough people to populate your universe?
What is worse, having some people who bought their ships with real world money flying around in a seemingly infinite universe, or FD constantly not meeting their deadlines because they are over budget and understaffed?

Agrar Therenus · Feb 28, 2017

Especially excited about this beta because this is a major step in 'humanising' the universe.

In live there is the issue that there is no sense of person, a universe of automatons.

These games aren't just space simulators; they are simulations of YOU in space. Without an avatar you feel like you are the ship itself, not the person piloting it.

CMDR DarkxXPhoenixXx · Feb 28, 2017

CMDR Kilgara said:
We are not mad that it's late. We're mad because FD try's to makes promising they can't keep. "Friday" -- "Monday" then what? Next year?

I don't mind. If they can't make the releases date for a BETA TEST it's not a big deal.

Rob At Work · Feb 28, 2017

CMDR Kilgara said:
We are not mad that it's late. We're mad because FD try's to makes promises they can't keep. "Friday" -- "Monday" then what? Next year?

and some of us are just ...well MAD!

CMDR Shakkleton · Feb 28, 2017

I promised it would only take 10 minutes to do the washing up but forgot the plates were procedurally generated.

I don't have beta access but I'm looking forward to finding out what's in store on this update when it's production ready

It's a massive job I'm sure

Arkkan · Feb 28, 2017

Give them some rest guys.

Remember they are working hard for our enjoyment.

What would be your feeling if some previous comments were for your work.