2.3 Beta Release News (27th Feb)

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It's very difficult to find any info regarding the beta release. In case someone wrote something useful here, it's already lost below layers of rubbish, commanders. Please stick to the topic. Any news regarding release time?
 
Chill pills for everyone, how about that?

"T'was the night before 2.3 and all could hear the howling outside..." LOL

Funny how things have not changed much, folks. I haven't opened the forums or the game in months and still the same ol' same ol' fuss and tantrums going strong.

Welcome back to the funny farm.
 
I think it might best best if in future betas FD just keep it completely secret and only announce its existence in the first place when the download is already available.

This way we can avoid these ridiculous massive tantrums from overgrown manchildren, who have little knowledge of how things work in the real world and consider themselves entitled to the world and beyond because they spent a measly amount of bucks on a videogame.

Its sad, but if (some) people can't behave like adults, then might as well treat them as children.
 
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We should invite them over to the 'other' thread ;)

Oh god no... there's another one?

I should clarify - I'm disappointed that the beta has slipped. But... in the world of delivering anything to anyone, issues happen and delays creep in. Don't let this one delay ruin previously good form with regards to content delivery. They are doing a great job, and I think some people need to respect that more rather that acting like they've been personally wronged.

FDEV will not be inclined to share things if they constantly get shouted at. Think on that.
 
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Just like to say it's getting a bit childish in here , so what it's late, in the end its a BETA not a finished product and should be treated as such, no doubt it will get tweaked and updated over time but that's the purpose of a BETA so just try and show some patience.
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Not really.... I am a dev, some stuff I understand, some stuff from this end I've seem from game studios (not naming names) looks very poor, you can often see examples of poor communication (not Fdevs strongest suit either) and poor project management even if you aren't involved in the projects.

And the key thing to not annoying your customers is proper expectation management, and building into any timelines plenty of time for issues! If you think you will have something ready in 5 days if all goes well you NEVER under any circumstances say "it'll be ready in 5 days" You just don't!

I have every sympathy for bugs being found last min and issues this can cause - anyone who watched the live stream could tell there were big issues! But waiting till after the anticipated release (beta's normally start on Tuesday that was widely expected and FDev could have shot that down long ago) then Late on Thursday saying "yeah guys issues, it'll be Monday" then late on Monday saying "ooops, we did it again! update tomorrow morning" then no update the following morning..... that I have no sympathy at all for! That's the sort of stuff that devs who don't make games but "real world stuff" get sacked for!

People I know who are game devs have a much higher tolerance for this than those I know who don't....most "real world" devs are not particularly flattering about how game devs operate. And sure part of that is them wanting to be making cool games rather than the boring project they are working on, but part of it is knowing a "lets wing it" operation when they see it.... IMO FDev need to get a lot better at the comms, at expectation management, right now it's the sort of level you expect from devs who just got a few volunteers to do it....

Alright, Captain Hindsight, settle down...

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you do know that some things are out of people's control, despite the best expectations of when a task should be complete, yeah?

This expectation that they should have had plans in place to deal with this is almost like Prime Minister May expecting the Brexit negotiations to go off without a hitch after she'll trigger Article 50 this year, then after 2 years expect a free trade deal...

Both this Beta and Brexit have this in common; overly optimistic optimism, and when things go bad, oh dear, they go bad - but it was totally unforeseen until all the Captain Hindsights come out of the woodwork.
 
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Especially excited about this beta because this is a major step in 'humanising' the universe.

In live there is the issue that there is no sense of person, a universe of automatons.

These games aren't just space simulators; they are simulations of YOU in space. Without an avatar you feel like you are the ship itself, not the person piloting it.

Good point. I'm specially looking forward the new camera system and having the ability to see more the inside of our ships, even though we are still riveted to our seats...
 
Perhaps I should have elaborated more there, I meant 'free' based on you already owning 2.x.
I wasn't expecting to have my words picked apart so thoroughly :p

And of course, I welcome an honest discourse; I just finding this entitled behaviour tiresome.

That is a flawed way of looking at it, you pay for the season of content. This is it, that means 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 and 2.4 are all under the umbrella of the cost of the expansion.

I find people throwing the term 'entitled' unbearably tiresome in the context of gaming.

Expectation is not unreasonable for paid products.

It's the same as complaining about the lack of post purchase support after buying a physical item

There's a distinction between a demand and an expectation, and it's often the case that the 'your entitled' people fail to recognise this.
 
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Ohhhhhhh...... you didn't actually fall for that line did you?

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After criticizing the delay so hard,

I hope those who yelled on them will be a fair beta tester to help them correcting bugs.

It's pretty to yell on them but after that do your part... The Beta is a tool.
 
Im hoping that the delay is because FDev have decided to add NPC's to Multi-Crew functionality.
Then Multi-Crew would actually be useful (to me).

That would destroy the first person perspective of the game. You might as well play freelancer if you want that kind of thing.
 
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