Lol, I don't know if that was a serious reply but I chortled. [haha]
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2.3 dev update feedback mega thread
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Lol, I don't know if that was a serious reply but I chortled. [haha]
NPC hired crew are still crew, as in multicrew.
As I have said previously, I am massively underwhelmed by the Multi-crew feature. A significant reduction in the number & significance of roles players can fill.....and the undue focus on combat operations.....makes the whole thing feel very arcade-y. A feeling further enhanced by the way players can join multi-crew from virtually *anywhere*.
Apparently flying a ship requires actual hands on the controls, which would be why the remote other players can't fly the ship. Less complicated things, like SLF and guns, can apparently be controlled remotely.
Much like your NPC crew currently control SLF.
I think you are stretching the definition there. I can't *see* my SLF pilot on my ships!
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So - dumb question: could mutlicrew potentially be available in Solo? I mean, it's all done through a matchmaking process and you never have to actually encounter another CMDR ship in-game in order for it to work. Since all modes are online anyway, is there any reason you couldn't be playing a game in Solo mode, but still be able to bring your friends onboard or access the matchmaking lobby (or whatever system is going to be used for people seeking crew/ships?
It kind of seems like the player controlled crewmates are very limited in what they can do and that the multiplayer aspect is almost being used as a crowdsourced replacement for AI NPCs.
Since ships are the primary unit of measurement in Elite, I think Solo can be thought of as the mode where your ship is the only player-controlled ship in the Galaxy. This doesn't necessarily preclude the ONE ship having more than one player onboard, though.
Any true friend would loan the poor sod without Horizons the 40 bucks they apparently don't have so they get with the program for god sakes!
Makes far more sense than seriously asking FD to provide some kind of cobbled together bridge software to allow the cheapskates who refuse to upgrade the ability to play with everyone who has. [rolleyes]
PSA Announcement: Frontier no longer sells the non-horizons version of the game at retail. Elite Dangerous now comes with all the 2.0 content standard. Hopefully, we should start seeing an end to all the whining from those without the 2.0 content. Either they finally get a clue and spend the 40 bucks to upgrade, or they shelve the outdated version of the game they insist on playing and move on.
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No.
Seriously, you are better off NOT trying to explain this one and accept that maybe for once it's necessary for gameplay to trump immersion.
And this is from a guy who has always fought on the side of immersion, including ship and module transfers. This is way beyond the ship transfer issue in that regard.
How you explain it is up to you. You want to keep your immersion going? Dock at a station first. Have your friend dock too.
But if docking became a requirement, then this feature would lose the vast majority of its potential users. How would explorers use it, once they're out of the bubble?
Here's a sample problem: You join a ship and go exploring, spending a productive session jumping towards Sagitarius A*.
Next day, you're online, but your captain isn't. What do you do?
Next week you decide you've had enough of this and want to go home, but the captain wants to continue to SagA*. What do you do?
Even if you have solutions for those, there are a dozen more you can come up with that will in some way hurt the ol' immersion.
This is something that I think has to be accepted and NOT explained. Explaining will only make things worse.
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Indeed you cannot see the NPC crew on the seat, which I think is a mistake for several reasons. Interestingly enough, if you jump into your SLF and fly up to your ship, you will notice your avatar is gone from the mother ship and the seat is empty. I don't think I'm stretching the definition of multicrew at all. They are in fact, hired crew. Are they not?
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It isn't telepresence. It's teleportation.
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No.
Because there are no other players in that instance. It's a solo instance mode.
You won't get it in Arena mode either, because the tiny ships don't have more than one seat.
Yeah but why just on ship to ship? If the module or whatever is small enough to fit on an sidewinder, stations could have hundreds of them.
So any kind of "Engineering" role has been scrapped, I take it? Initially that was stated as one of roles, doing sensors, navigation, and repairs. Basically what it boils down to is "control turrets" and "control fighter".... And that's it? Seems... underwhelming. I was really hoping that Frontier would come up with a way to make it more like the bridge of a Star Trek ship, with every role being fun and engaging. I guess that was a lot to ask... Except that Star Trek: Bridge Crew is a thing.
No, just no. It's something that adds little depth for the sake of realism. If the player gets destroyed and stranded, how long would they have to wait? It's nonsense
Hired NPC are crew. You can have them in Solo. Ergo solo has multicrew just not multiplayer.
Ingots of purest handwavium.
Sterling MH
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But being NPCs and not PCs, they can't do PC things. Like Multi crew. That requires a player, not a subroutine running on your computer.
Yeah these are all good questions and I'm interested in the answers to them too.
Sterling MH
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Yes, you can have NPC crew. They're not other players. You need to walk in the sunshine, sunshine, you're starting to believe you're in the Matrix IRL.
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