Engineers 27 Rolls

Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
Headless Sheep said:
A thousand times is terrible. Should it really be that hard?
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Yes, it should be that hard if you cannot live with anything but perfection. Thats why perfectionists are terrible people to be around with. :p Anything above 40%+ is great, and will never need 27 rolls. Heck, even the minimum of 20% is far more than we discussed before 2.1 arrived. "Just one or two LY extra on my corvette would be fantastic", people said. They got another seven, then kept banging their head against the wall trying to make it 7.1. Makes no sense, so dont do that to yourself. :)
 

Cmdr Chaos

Cmdr Chaos
Headless Sheep said:
Do the people that disagree with my style of game play realize your probably in the [to be fair] tenth percentile. The rest of the world is out here doing the same thing I'm doing. Striving to be the best at everything we do. Could you imagine if we would have stopped with the Wright Brothers. Get over yourself. Do I realize this do I realize that I don't care what you say I'm gonna roll as many times as I want. And when it doesn't go my way I'll come on here and rage until I get banned. I don't give a flip:eek:. Ha ha Go jump off a building with some shabby wings strapped to your back. When you're able come back on here and thank me and my kind for striving to improve. Lols for days.
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You probably want to start improving your attitude before that FSD. That'd be the area for "your kind" to improve first.
 

Bomba Luigi

Bomba Luigi
Nothing wrong with your gameplaystyle, complaining that the gameplaystyle you did choose is stupid annd keep on doing it anwyway is a bit silly tough. Even more so considering you choose to go the torturechamber to maybe on average save 2 or 3 seconds on a 1000Ly journey.
 
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Odan Brota

Odan Brota
It's best to not attempt to "min/max" the rolls. For example, if you have an extremely good grade 4 roll, it's unlikely that a mediocre grade 5 roll will best it. I just shoot for the upper 10% of the bar or better, and can usually get that and am happy.

The only mods worth minmaxing are grade 1s imo, since they're so cheap. I love my Grade 1 OC'd power plant that is better than a Grade 2 roll.
 

MoonWeb

MoonWeb
I took 4x shield boosters and engineered them with 'resistance augmented' (Grade 5 obviously because I am not a Sunday-flyer)

I took enough materials for 24 attempts.
I consider anything above 75% on the major stat to be good.
I consider anything with a power reduction secondary to be even better.

I have discovered that accepting any roll and then rolling again tends to be far more rewarding than attempting to get a good roll on a virgin module; in fact the statistics will gradually creep up and up if you keep rolling and accepting any improvement. This would appear to be true because the outcome bars will alter based on what is already on the module. A maxed module will therefore have no blue at all, and it would take a miracle to get an improvement.

In my experience (my main ship is finished 100%) it doesn't take more than six rolls to get a decent result, and anything up to ten or fifteen after that will improve the result you accepted. Keep going for another ten or so and you might end up with a magnificent result, as this image shows:

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*but damn that booster is so weak, even a photon grenade could take it out...
 
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Ian Skippy

Ian Skippy
MoonWeb said:
I have discovered that accepting any roll and then rolling again tends to be far more rewarding than attempting to get a good roll on a virgin module; in fact the statistics will gradually creep up and up if you keep rolling and accepting any improvement. This would appear to be true because the outcome bars will alter based on what is already on the module. A maxed module will therefore have no blue at all, and it would take a miracle to get an improvement.
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No, that is not true. Neither is the often heared opposite claim (that rolls on a new module are better). Its luck. Outcome bars will be relative to your current stats, but based on never-changing starting stats + variance. Improving on a 49% FSD primary statistic is every bit as hard as getting a 50% primary statistic on a new module. Which doesnt mean your conclusion is bad: if you dont aim for Godly Rolls you'll get good stuff fairly rapidly.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
Headless Sheep said:
Do the people that disagree with my style of game play realize your probably in the [to be fair] tenth percentile. The rest of the world is out here doing the same thing I'm doing. Striving to be the best at everything we do. Could you imagine if we would have stopped with the Wright Brothers. Get over yourself. Do I realize this do I realize that I don't care what you say I'm gonna roll as many times as I want. And when it doesn't go my way I'll come on here and rage until I get banned. I don't give a flip:eek:. Ha ha Go jump off a building with some shabby wings strapped to your back. When you're able come back on here and thank me and my kind for striving to improve. Lols for days.
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This is the best thing I've read since the Navy Seal 'what did you just say to me' copypasta. Striving to be the best at everything we do eh? I can tell you this much champ, you can cross 'making ridiculous posts on web forums' off your list, you just aced it.

Anyway, I'm sure OP will tell us what his best roll out of the 27 was soon.

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MoonWeb

MoonWeb
sleutelbos said:
No, that is not true. Neither is the often heared opposite claim
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Possibly. I suppose my method of just taking the best of whatever I get and then coming back later if I'm still not happy just makes it seem that way.

On the other hand, modifying a module which has already been heavily altered means that the bars and needles are nowhere near the original point, which would mean that some sort of logic determines where they should fall relative to each other, and that 'good and bad' rolls become relative terms.
 
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Moonax IRL

Moonax IRL
I was using up a surplus of phosphorus I think for grade 1 rolls on my huge multis (I have G4 access , used G5 to switch weapon ability previously) and I picked up 2 incendiary abilities for each on the G1 rolls and they seem to be knocking the S out of elite annies & FDL`s in my corvette. I`m now wondering is it just good enough to spam the G1 upgrades with the single mat to get the ability you need.
 

Headless Sheep

Banned
Headless Sheep
Red Anders said:
This is the best thing I've read since the Navy Seal 'what did you just say to me' copypasta. Striving to be the best at everything we do eh? I can tell you this much champ, you can cross 'making ridiculous posts on web forums' off your list, you just aced it.

Anyway, I'm sure OP will tell us what his best roll out of the 27 was soon.

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Ridiculous to ten percenters. I think you secretly agree and are possibly even jealous. That's why you keep coming back posting your tid bits bumping the thread. It's ok Red it really is.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
Headless Sheep said:
Ridiculous to ten percenters. I think you secretly agree and are possibly even jealous. That's why you keep coming back posting your tid bits bumping the thread. It's ok Red it really is.
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Beautifully swerved. Let me take a guess at your best percentage since you're obviously too embarassed to post it in view of your comments. 52% maybe? Something that was actually better than the stated maximum but not quite as high as you know it's possible to get with a secondary effect?

The best thing about your post is that you completely miss the irony of the fact you're not striving for anything. You're asking to have it handed to you.

Incidentally, it's ridiculous because you're sat there spewing your motivational self-help book rubbish about playing a computer game. I keep coming back to it simply because it gives me my giggle of the day whilst I'm at work, achieving plenty.
 
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Siranui

S
warlock said:
There is a strong theory that after watching the Hitler video on you tube all your rolls become bad ones.
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There's certainly a lot of perception and confirmation bias around the whole process.

I heard the best way to get RNG to do what you want is first select the Modification you want, then pin the blueprint, quit to the menu, send me a bottle of decent port via first class airmail, hop three times on your left leg, log back in and click the button to make the attempt using your *left* hand. :D


Headless Sheep said:
Do the people that disagree with my style of game play realize your probably in the [to be fair] tenth percentile. The rest of the world is out here doing the same thing I'm doing. Striving to be the best at everything we do. Could you imagine if we would have stopped with the Wright Brothers. Get over yourself. Do I realize this do I realize that I don't care what you say I'm gonna roll as many times as I want. And when it doesn't go my way I'll come on here and rage until I get banned. I don't give a flip:eek:. Ha ha Go jump off a building with some shabby wings strapped to your back. When you're able come back on here and thank me and my kind for striving to improve. Lols for days.
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a) You're.

b) This is not the Wright Brothers. This is an obsessive computer game player making grand comparisons. You aren't even pioneering: You're complaining that it isn't going your own way.

c) You are not 'striving to improve' and 'being the best at everything you do'. You are compulsively grinding a computer game in order to get the best kit - an entirely unskilled activity which teaches nothing. 'Striving to improve' would be putting the game down and doing something that actually improves yourself.

d) Here's to another 27 failed rolls!

e) Toodles! [yesnod]
 

Some1else

Some1else
Headless Sheep said:
Do the people that disagree with my style of game play realize your probably in the [to be fair] tenth percentile. The rest of the world is out here doing the same thing I'm doing. Striving to be the best at everything we do. Could you imagine if we would have stopped with the Wright Brothers. Get over yourself. Do I realize this do I realize that I don't care what you say I'm gonna roll as many times as I want. And when it doesn't go my way I'll come on here and rage until I get banned. I don't give a flip:eek:. Ha ha Go jump off a building with some shabby wings strapped to your back. When you're able come back on here and thank me and my kind for striving to improve. Lols for days.
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Well then,

Care I Realize do I. And realize do yourself, that flip now give we don't your #'r of rolls for?:rolleyes:

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