A discovered planet in an otherwise undiscovered system?

Lhorndra

Lhorndra
I'm not sure if my understanding of how to "discover" celestial bodies is missing some (more obscure) aspects.

I've recently come across a binary star system (Pheia Aewsy XJ-T b58-0) with 40 bodies, near the Monkey Head Nebula. Nothing too fancy, but at least I thought I was the first to discover it. The whole system was indeed undiscovered, except for a water world (body B 2) orbiting the secondary star. Nothing else, not even the two stars, had the "First discovered by" tag.

I was under the impression that it's not possible to jump into a system, fly to the one single planet that's worth a lot and "discover" it without discovering any other body, not even the primary star.

Wouldn't the primary star get tagged automatically as soon as you jumped into the system? What's more, whoever discovered the water world seemed to have known exactly where he/she was looking for. I know there are ways to find systems where water worlds are more likely, but to be dead sure where to find this water world within the system -- in this case more than 19.000 ls from the primary star -- without ever honking seems very strange to me. Honking discovers at least the stars, doesn't it?

Now I know the game went through many iterations and updates, with the addition of the current DSS, the FSS and so on. Maybe this was once possible, but not anymore? Or is my understanding of discovering bodies incomplete? I would be really thankful if somebody could shed some light on this.
 

Codger

Codger
In the olden days you had to face the main star, target it, and wait for the scan in order to tag it. It didn't pay much so hardly anyone did it. Hence the main star not being tagged.

Then in the other olden days we had the "ADS", or "Advanced Discovery Scanner" which when honked would reveal all the bodies in the system (ie. you could see if it was a waterworld or whatever). But to tag the waterworld you had to fly out to it and point your ship at it, target it, and wait for the scan. That would give you what was then called a "detailed scan" and was worth mucho credits. Less valuable bodies were simply skipped.

Now we have the FSS and DSS which is a whole different system.

So you are understanding the current system correctly.
 

A10A

A
You have to fly out quite a distance these days to find 'pre-honked' systems. I engineered a ship (Anaconda) for long distance travel, but found that I hated the repetition. Great to get something named after you. Not so great for interesting game play. Explorers - you are a different breed. My admiration.
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Having the best exploration equipment built into the ship kind of takes growth or development and specialization opportunities away from the exploration section of gameplay imo.
 

varonica

varonica
K Olley said:
A quick look on the systems without main stars list show some within 200 - 300ly of Sol (18 in Pegasi sector)
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As far as I am aware there are around 20 million known systems without main stars, a lot of these are in easy reach of the bubble, completely unvisited is a bit harder, but more than once I have found unvisited systems under 1kly from the bubble, a lot of it depends on the direction you take.
 

K Olley

K Olley
Just over 18 million now, a lot of those nearer the bubble have been mapped by Cmdr's that are not reporting to Inara etc, but there is still a fair amount that have not been visited since first discovery.
 

Alkibiades

Alkibiades
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Sometimes people get wild. It happens :)
 

varonica

varonica
K Olley said:
Just over 18 million now, a lot of those nearer the bubble have been mapped by Cmdr's that are not reporting to Inara etc, but there is still a fair amount that have not been visited since first discovery.
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Yeah that numbers going to slowly drop, I did a lot of them myself (not 2 million worth of course) mainly in the imported catalogue groups to clear that lot up. Finished most of the smaller catalogues but the rest have huge numbers of stars in them.
 

Chrystoph

Chrystoph
varonica said:
You could just fly to that one planet and map it, just to confuse people you know!
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I was sort of disappointed when I found out that one of my more difficult (at the time, trivial now) discoveries had other peoples' names associated with it.

It wasn't in the game to get "Mapped" and "Landing" when I found it. Kind of feels like a graffiti fest happened.
 
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